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Title: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: newbe_nz on Sunday 03 January 10 00:32 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know if you can install mac on a windows vista pc or not

I have been told by a cousin that it is easier to use and has a good Family History program as well. I do not know the name of the program yet

Thanks for your help

newbe_nz
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: ignz on Sunday 03 January 10 03:32 GMT (UK)
You mean the Apple operating system?

Simple answer=no...

...but as with most technology it's never quite that easy.

Less simple answer, the Mac OS EULA prohibits its installation on non-Apple hardware and Apple will neither offer the OS nor support it on non Apple kit. However there are plenty of OS X installs running on non-Apple hardware; technically it can be done. There are also OS X derived operating systems (such as the Darwin project, originally supported by Apple).

So the real answer is yes you can if you're prepared to accept either questionable legality or something that's OS X-like and *may* run the application you are interested in. Oh and do you want to keep Vista as well?

Suppose you might be able to get OS X running in a virtual machine under Windows? Never tried that - not that I'm suggesting I would have tried any of the above options either ;)

Whether OS X is easier to use than Vista will depend on what you are used to and how easily you adapt to a different operating environment. It's different !

Be interesting to see what FH app your cousin is talking about.

IG
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Sunday 03 January 10 04:55 GMT (UK)

So the real answer is yes you can if you're prepared to accept either questionable legality or something that's OS X-like and *may* run the application you are interested in. Oh and do you want to keep Vista as well?


IG

I think you would have to have more memory on your PC as well, sure I read that somewhere.


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: newbe_nz on Sunday 03 January 10 06:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks KHP and Ignz

Will keep it in mind. It is just a thought at the moment

I think it is this Friday I am talking to my cousin via skype so might flick an email and see what FH program he is using

newbe_nz
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 03 January 10 09:41 GMT (UK)
I am told, but have never tried it, that it is possible to install a windows system on a Mac. Anyone confirm please?
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: ignz on Sunday 03 January 10 10:01 GMT (UK)
I am told, but have never tried it, that it is possible to install a windows system on a Mac. Anyone confirm please?

Of course it is possible - easier if the Mac is Intel and not PPC...but why would you?  8)

It's also possible to rip a 302 out of a Boss Mustang and shove in a 327 Chev... ;D

IG
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: stevieuk on Sunday 03 January 10 10:02 GMT (UK)
I think you need "Bootcamp" on the Mac to use Windows, but I`m not a Mac user so don`t quote me...
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Koromo on Sunday 03 January 10 10:09 GMT (UK)

" ... you can boot up your Mac using either Mac OS X or Windows. Or if you want to run Windows and Mac applications at the same time — without rebooting — you can install Windows using VMware or Parallels software."

from http://www.apple.com/macosx/compatibility/

;)
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: ignz on Sunday 03 January 10 10:11 GMT (UK)
I think you need "Bootcamp" on the Mac to use Windows, but I`m not a Mac user so don`t quote me...

You don't  *need* Bootcamp, but it certainly makes it easier.

Both OS's were designed to work on their respective target platforms; either can be made to run on the other. Just depends how much work you want to do to have a machine run how you want it...or you just like a challenge

IG
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 03 January 10 10:13 GMT (UK)
Don't have a Mac, but my elderly laptop is becoming increasingly obsolescent, so am beginning to look for some form of replacement, and would like to be as reliable and versatile as possible.
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: ignz on Sunday 03 January 10 10:21 GMT (UK)
@ redroger - if you're talking about replacing said laptop, then Mac v Wintel is a whole different set of arguments and considerations - and will also doubtless generate a stack of opinions from supporters of both.

Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 03 January 10 10:55 GMT (UK)
Fair comment! I will make further enquiries and if needed return to this subject in future.
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: stevieuk on Sunday 03 January 10 11:13 GMT (UK)
The Mac v PC arguement has always generated heated arguements & debate & I`m sure will for years to come....Much like the Amiga v Atari ST arguements.

I`ve never used a Mac so can`t even debate the question, but I have found a nice series of Blogs by PCPro Magazine.....

Quote
".....our experiment to see whether Windows 7 can convert a hardened Mac user, Chris Brennan tries to get to grips with...."

Makes interesting reading...the blogs aren`t to long & it seems relatively unbiased....although the comments made by readers seem to follow the usual form of Mac v PC arguements on the whole.

Links below....
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/26/the-worst-part-of-windows-7-internet-explorer/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/28/windows-7-is-faster-than-snow-leopard/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/30/is-windows-7-good-looking-enough-to-sway-an-apple-fan/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/02/do-i-like-windows-7-because-its-so-like-a-mac/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/04/why-windows-7-has-forced-me-to-worry-about-security/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/06/where-are-the-killer-apps-for-windows/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/09/mac-finder-is-better-than-windows-explorer/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/11/is-microsoft-listening-too-hard-to-customers/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/13/windows-7-or-snow-leopard-value-for-money/

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/11/17/mac-vs-windows-7-the-final-verdict/
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Nick29 on Sunday 03 January 10 13:05 GMT (UK)
I think it's true to say that many Mac owners also own a Windows PC, to run the software that you can't get for the Mac.

Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Jocie on Sunday 03 January 10 13:22 GMT (UK)
I use a Mac laptop with VM Fusion installed.  this means it functions as both a Mac and a PC.
I know...it was a very expensive present for a very big birthday from the whole family and also meant it was socks for Christmas!!
I would however support the argument that Snow Leopard is slower than a PC. Not much slower though.
I've always used PC's at work and a Mac at home and although now retired I still use PC environment for some things. Usually programmes that won't run on a Mac.
However if I had to choose it's a Mac for me but it is as someone has already said it's a matter of personal choice.


Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: MerryGiles on Sunday 03 January 10 19:23 GMT (UK)
There's also Parallels software, which is somewhat like VM Fusion. Apple stores tend to offer it - but would be interesting to find an honest comparison.
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: *sara* on Sunday 03 January 10 21:55 GMT (UK)
always a mac for me - although I have got bootcamp so I can run windows aswell - not often used, only for a few programme I have that can run on a mac.

I would like a FH programme for a mac though - any suggestions?

sara
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: Koromo on Sunday 03 January 10 22:16 GMT (UK)


I would like a FH programme for a mac though - any suggestions?


The widely-used genealogy program for the Mac is Reunion:
http://www.leisterpro.com/

There's also Heredis and iFamily but I don't know how up-to-date they are:
http://www.myheredis.com/discover.html/
http://www.ifamilyforleopard.com/

:)
Koromo
Title: Re: installing mac on windows pc
Post by: *sara* on Monday 04 January 10 20:50 GMT (UK)
thanks for that , iwill have a look at those

apple themselves sell macfamilytree but it looks quite 'gimmicky'

thanks
sara