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Title: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Humpty707 on Friday 01 January 10 17:37 GMT (UK)
I've come across a man (born Cambridge, 1772) named 'King John Haggerston'. I assumed that 'King' was a family name, and that he'd be known as 'King Haggerston', most of the time. But instead, he's never referred to in any documents I can find as anything other than 'King John Haggerston'. Now, is it just me, or is it really quite odd to call your son King John? 
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: spark on Friday 01 January 10 17:49 GMT (UK)
so naming your child after a "celebrity" is not new to the 21st century! :)

Happy new year all ( and happy 6th Birthday to rootschat)

Spark
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Galium on Friday 01 January 10 19:57 GMT (UK)
A quick look at the IGI shows up a few similar names eg;

King Edward Ursell -1785
King Edmund Hilton - 1788 (his father had the same name)
King George Roberts - 1790
King Richard Kirkby - 1798
King Charles Knight - 1798
King Charles Carter - 1839

(also found a couple of King Fishers  :) )

There are also some Queens:

Queen Victoria Castle - 1838
Queen Ann Baker - 1838
Queen Caroline Craddock - 1831
Queen Caroline Kershaw - 1860

I wonder how they coped when someone asked them their name.

Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Humpty707 on Friday 01 January 10 20:12 GMT (UK)
Now calling your daughter Queen Caroline is definitely making a political point, isn't it? So do you think King John is? King Charles?

p.s. Happy New Year to all, royalty or not!
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 02 January 10 05:49 GMT (UK)
Poor  kids is my first thought  :-[  :-[::)

charlotte
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Saturday 02 January 10 06:06 GMT (UK)
Poor kids is my first thought :-[ :-[::)

charlotte

I agee ::) though I have come across females called "Queenie"

Cheers
KHP :)
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 02 January 10 06:08 GMT (UK)
Better than parents calling males "Queenie" !! :o

charlotte
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Humpty707 on Sunday 03 January 10 17:38 GMT (UK)
You think King John got off lightly, then?  ;)
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: marionjl on Sunday 03 January 10 17:54 GMT (UK)
I have a King David Haydon born 1854 in Chelmsford, Essex. His birth was registered as David Haydon but he's listed as King David on the 1861 census and in several places afterwards.  Interestingly, given the list posted earlier, his mother's maiden name was Kershaw.

Marion
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Geoff-E on Sunday 03 January 10 19:49 GMT (UK)
Births Dec 1838 
Saint Paul PAUL          Horncastle    14   377

Although his baptism on IGI  is for Saint St PAUL (also his father's name) ... but in my marriage index, his father seems to have been Saint PAUL.
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: MerryGiles on Monday 04 January 10 12:15 GMT (UK)
Reminds me of Major Major Major Major from Catch-22 :)
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Rosedale on Monday 04 January 10 15:44 GMT (UK)
Not quite as good as King, but I've got a Count Henry Liddell.....  ;)
Wasn't the real Count though, his dad was an Ag Lab for a start - I think they must have had some high ideas!

Lisa.
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: charlotteCH on Tuesday 05 January 10 01:25 GMT (UK)
Not quite as good as King, but I've got a Count Henry Liddell.....  ;)
Wasn't the real Count though, his dad was an Ag Lab for a start - I think they must have had some high ideas!

Lisa.

An ag lab naming his son Count must have given the vicar a laugh, unless the child's mother's maiden name was count. ;D

charlotte
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 05 January 10 09:21 GMT (UK)
My aunt had a friend named Queenie, who upon marriage became Queenie King. ;D

Gillg
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: charlotteCH on Tuesday 05 January 10 09:30 GMT (UK)
Gillg ;D... Pull the other one :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: Gillg on Tuesday 05 January 10 10:50 GMT (UK)
Charlotte

It's true, honestly!  My brother and I found it hilarious when we were young.  i wonder if she selected her husband because of his surname? :D :D

Gillg
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: charlotteCH on Tuesday 05 January 10 10:53 GMT (UK)
It is hilarious... but no one could be daft enough to marry someone just for his surname ::)
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 11:17 GMT (UK)
When I was a child a family moved in a couple of doors away from us and we thought their little boy was named George -and their dog was called Prince..... you got it... the son was called Prince and the dog was george!!!!

Suz
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 05 January 10 11:45 GMT (UK)
It is hilarious... but no one could be daft enough to marry someone just for his surname ::)

A friend of mine did  ;D She had a polish surname which sounded like 'I was sick'.
As a girl she prayed for it to be Smith or Jones......so when a Mr Smith started dating her-she married him on the spot  ;)

I think she quite liked him too,but that's the story she always used to tell.

Carol
Title: Re: Naming your child "King John"
Post by: charlotteCH on Tuesday 05 January 10 11:53 GMT (UK)
Carol, That's an awful story...  ::) ::)

Has this turned into "The Awful Story Thread"? ???

charlotte