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Title: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: smunn02 on Thursday 31 December 09 00:36 GMT (UK)
Hi there

I'm trying to find some info on my paternal great-grandmother Norah May Lawrence nee Woodward and her parents. I'm told she used to run a pub in Luton(or with her husband George A Lawrence); unsure which one of them was the licensee.

Norah May - 
Birth 29 May 1905
Death 15 Apr 1988
in Luton, Bedfordshire 

Husband  George A Lawrence
Birth 1900 in Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire, England
Death 26 Aug 1968 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England


Norah May's parents were James William Woodward 1885 – 1955 and Florence Ethel 1881 – 1941 - I am told that they were also publicans. Is anyone able to find them in any licensing/parish records please? I've given up looking after the last few hours, I don't have access to that sort of thing unfortunately =(

Thank you very much
Steven Munn
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 02 January 10 05:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Steven, if you bought the marriage cert for Norah & george it would tell you their father's occupations. It might also tell you the name of the pub thge Woodwards ran if Norah was living at it at the time of her marriage.

The cert costs 7GBP... you can search  freebmd site for the full reference that enables you to buy this cert.

let us know how you get on :)

charlotte
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 02 January 10 06:24 GMT (UK)
the only couple that match up on 1911 census is james william woodward born 1880
and florence ethel woodward born 1881
they have a child norah may woodward born 1906 with them
they are living in shipston on stour,warwickshire
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Saturday 02 January 10 06:46 GMT (UK)
the only norah woodward birth that will fit is this
norah may woodward
y.o.r. 1905
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; chipping norton
county; warwickshire,gloucestershire,oxfordshire
vol; 3a
page; 1123
this might be a cert worth getting you would find out mothers maiden name
you could specify that only send the cert if the fathers name is james and the mothers name is florence
i think they charge a small fee for this
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: smunn02 on Saturday 02 January 10 15:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you both very much, I'll order both of those now =)
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 14:13 GMT (UK)
think i may have found your marriage
norah may birth was regd in chipping norton
there is this marriage in chipping norton
james william woodward
y.o.r. 1902
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; chipping norton
vol; 3a
page; 1989
on the same page florence ethel hayward
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 14:21 GMT (UK)
possibly james in 1901 right age and right area
1901
RG13/1400/7/6
alan belcher age 26. b. fifield,oxfordshire. occ. groom domestic. head
lewis barkett age 22. b. ditto. occ. groom domestic. lodger
james woodward age 21. b. over norton,oxfordshire. occ. groom domestic. lodger
living at; stables yard, moor hall, over norton,st.mary chipping norton,oxfordshire
reg.dist. chipping norton
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 14:27 GMT (UK)
think this must be him
on the 1911 i typed in birthplace over norton
and the only one that came up was the one already posted for 1911
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 14:40 GMT (UK)
and here i believe is florence in 1901
and could this be where the publican occ comes into it
1901
RG13/1400/58/1
george claridge haywood age 48. b. bodicote,oxfordshire. occ. publican.head
eliza louise haywood age 40. b. chipping norton. wife
florence ethel haywood age 20. b. ditto. daughter
mabel ellen haywood age 16. b. ditto. daughter
violet eveline haywood age 2. b. salford,oxfordshire. daughter
living at; black horse, salford st.mary,salford,oxfordshire
reg.dist; chipping norton
also on the same page is possibly james's parents
james woodward age 50. b. salford,oxfordshire. occ. gardener. head
matilda age 48. b. chipping norton. wife
john henry age 23. b. london. occ. groom domestic. son(unm)
ethel age 17. b. chipping norton. occ. dressmakers apprentice. daughter
living at; chipping norton road,salford,oxfordshire
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 14:50 GMT (UK)
seems as though he is the son of james/matilda
1891
RG12/1179/143/9
james woodward age 43. b. salford hill,oxon. occ. domestic gardener. head
matilda age 38. b. chipping norton. wife
john.h. age 14. b. london. son
james william age 11. b. over norton. son
ethel age 7. b. cchipping norton. daughter
living at;black horse inn, salford,oxon
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 15:04 GMT (UK)
here is the florence in 1891
1891
RG12/1179/80/54
george haywood age 38. b. bodicote. occ. licensed victualler. head
louise age 30. b. chipping norton. wife
florence age 10. b. ditto. daughter
mabel age 6. b. ditto. daughter
harry age 4. b. ditto. son
alice stanley age 74. b. charlbury,oxon. mother in law(wid) living on own means
emma thornton age 14. b. salford,oxon. occ. general domestic servant.
living at;new street,chipping norton,oxon
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: smunn02 on Sunday 03 January 10 15:17 GMT (UK)
Black Horse Inn - that really rings a bell, thank you all so much =)  Her daughter died a couple of days ago (my grandmother) so I can't ask her to clarify, but will get myself through as many certificates as possible. Thanks a huge bunch everyone!
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: wozzle on Sunday 03 January 10 15:30 GMT (UK)
do you want me to keep going backwards through the years with the woodward and haywood families
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: smunn02 on Sunday 03 January 10 15:50 GMT (UK)
I think I'm okay for the time being thank you, got plenty to work on :D
Title: Re: Norah May Lawrence (nee Woodward) - Luton
Post by: charlotteCH on Monday 04 January 10 04:14 GMT (UK)
Wozzle, well done :) :)... you're a ferrett ;D

charlotte