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Hi,
Clarenza Granville bn 1870 Hertfordshire & George Frederick Allsop bn 1867 Hampshire married in Kensington in 1894. I know that her father was something in the Bank of England & that George was a bank official in the Bank of England. I have found Clarenza & George in Ellishope, Waterhouse Lane, Burgh Heath near Epsom in 1911 with their 3 children, but can anyone throw any light on George's career or that of his father in law? I have not managed to find the Granville's in 1881.
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Granvilles in 1881 ....
RG11/816 F 79 PAGE 15 Croydon Surrey. 23 Albert Rd
William T Granville hd m 56 formally captain Bucks
Marian wi m 45 Surrey
Stuart son u 18 civil serv post office Surrey
Granville W. son u 17 scholar
John J son u 14 " "
Marian P dau u 12 " "
Clareza dau u 10 " "
Tazzie
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William gives retired captain in 1871 as profession.
Tazzie
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Hi Tazzie,
Doesn't sound like he was 'big in the Bank of England' then! Thank you for time, it's much appreciated.
Merry Christmas to you & yours!
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St Matthias, Earls Court
1894 Sep 27
George Frederick ALLSOP, 27, bachelor, Bank Clerk, 27 Warwick Road, father George Allsop, Gentleman
Clarenza GRANVILLE, 23, spinster, -, St Andrews Fulham, father William Turnour Granville (deceased), Captain in the Army
Married after Banns.
Both signed in the presence of Stuart Granville, Harold J Lintott
1891 William Turnour Granville gives his birthplace as Ceylon
A couple of interetsing finds if you google his name. Also a few references if you do a Google Book search as well.
From what I can see WTG's mother was a TURNOUR, and they married in Ceylon. She was Frances TURNOUR, daughter of George TURNOUR who in turn was son of Edward TURNOUR, Earl of Winterton, and she married William GRANVILLE in Ceylon 5 Jul 1820. William was secretary to the government. If you look for TURNOUR and De Bretts you will find them, it was an Irish peerage. William Granville arrived in Ceylon in 1805.
Ian C
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If you look on FIBIS there are various items about the Granville and Turnour families as well.
5 Jul 1820
In Ceylon, William Granville, esq. Deputy Secretary to his Majesty's Government, to Frances, daughter of the late Hon. George Turnour, and niece to the late Cardinal de Bausset of Paris, and of the Earl of Winterton.
Ian C
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Thank you Ian for all that wonderful information. I hadn't expected to hear anymore after Tazzie's information yesterday & was just pleased to know who & where Clarenza's family were. With all your extra detail I'm just blown away, thank you. Can I just be a pain again and ask what is FIBIS?
I hope you have a good day & a Happy New Year.
Kay
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Hi Kay,
FIBIS is the Families in British India Society: http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/index.php
You can find this link and many other useful links for researching in India here:
Topic: INDIA: Resources for Ancestors in British India
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,30580.0.html
Bob
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Families in British India Society
www.fibis.org
There is also http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx
Ian C
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Hi
The link to the Bank of England archives including staffing records is in the guide at the top of the Surrey boards
A GUIDE TO LOCAL STUDIES LIBRARIES AND ARCHIVES SITUATED IN LONDON AND SURREY
Also in the Guide is the link to the Indian Office records held at the British Library
Regards
Valda
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Thank you ALL for such helpful replies. Will check it all out this evening. There is so much to learn in family history & I can't thank you enough for your help.
Good luck in your searches,
Kay
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Hi
1871 census RG10 1372 folio 115
Currie Road St John's Hertford
William T Granville 49 Head Married Retired Captain Colombo Ceylon
Maria Granville 37 Wife Married Croydon Surrey
Granville W Granville 7 Son Paignton Devon
Turner Granville 5 Son Ashburton Devon
John S Granville 4 Son Portland Dorset
Marian P Granville 2 Daughter Brockham Surrey
Clarenza Granville 4 months Daughter Hertford Hertfordshire
The marriage entry on the civil registration doesn't match his wife's name on the 1871 and 1881 censuses
Marriages Dec 1861
Granville William Turnour St Geo Han Sq 1a 363
either
Manfield Charlotte St. Geo. Han. Sq. 1a 363
or
Tredgett Susannah St Geo Han Sq 1a 363
The supposed son of William Turnour Granville by a married woman (in 1849), the Captain retiring from the army not long after.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p5331.htm#i53308
http://www.thepeerage.com/p18308.htm#i183077
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Poulett
Commissions signed by the Lord Lieutenant of the county of Worcestershire 1855
Worcestershire Regiment of Militia
William Turnour Granville (late a captain in the 8th, the King's Regiment of Foot)
1851 census HO107 1478 folio 217 folio
69 Chester Square St George Hanover Square Westminster
William Granville 62 Head Married Civil Service Pension Treasury of Company? France British Subject
Frances Granville 39 Wife Married Ceylon B S
Emily Granville 30 Daughter Ceylon B S
Frances Granville 25 Daughter Ceylon B S
But no sign of William junior.
Regards
Valda
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Thanks Valda - sounds like this branch lead a very interesting life! Thank you for your time, it's much appreciated.
Kay
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I might have some info you would like. Messaged you already. Looking for links to my great grandfather in your messages posts. Andrew.
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Hi Andrew,
Have sent you a personal mail with my e-mail address, look forward to sharing our info.
Kay