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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Mary Crane on Monday 14 March 05 03:25 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'd appreciate a Look Up in the 1861 or 1871 census for Bristol for James Simmons (or Symons) born 1832/33.
He was probably living at 31 William Street, St. Philips (although I'm not 100% sure of this), with his wife Mary, and by 1871 five children. I'm trying to discover where he was born as the information I have doesn't appear to be accurate. I know he was born in Devon, as was his wife who was born at High Bickington.
Many thanks
Mary C
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Hi!
Dont know if this is any help but James Symons married Mary Davey in Torrington 1854. She was a widow in 1881 living with her daughter martha.
The only James Symons who seems to fit was born at Tiverton in 1831 parents Thomas and Martha.
Regards Mary
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Here is the 1871 entry few more kids than anticipated here...lol
RG10/2561 Ed 22 Folio 63 Page 15
31 William Street
Bistol St Philip and St Jacob
SIMMONS James Head 37 Mar b Roborough High Radnor Railway porter
SIMMONS Mary Wife 39 Mar b High Bickington Old Radnor Milliner
SIMMONS Frederick Son 16 Unm b High Bickington Old Radnor Railway Porter
SIMMONS Mary Dau 14 Unm b Bristol Tailoress
SIMMONS William Son 10 b Bristol Scholar
SIMMONS Elizabeth dau 8 b Bristol Scholar
SIMMONS John Son 6 b Bristol Scholar
SIMMONS James Son 3 b Bristol
SIMMONS Alice G Dau 12 Months b Bristol
Cheers Kris :D
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Hi Mary C
Here you go the 1871
Gloucester
RG12/2561
CP = St Philip and St Jacob, EP = Emmanuel, RD = Clifton, SRD = St Philip, Folio 63, Page 15
31 William Street
James SIMMONS Head 37 Railway Porter Roborough
Mary SIMMONS Wife 39 Milliner High Bikington
Frederick SIMMONS Son 16 Railway Porter High Bikington
Mary SIMMONS Dau 14 Tailor Bristol
William SIMMONS Son 10 Scholar Bristol
Elizabeth SIMMONS Dau 8 Scholar Bristol
John SIMMONS Son 6 Scholar Bristol
James SIMMONS Son 3 Scholar Bristol
Alice G. SIMMONS Dau 12m Bristol
Shanko
;D
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unfortunately James is not with family in 1851
HO107/1819 Folio 349 Page 4
Cowlas
Burrington South Moulton Devon
home of Charles Manning and family a farmer of 60 acres
SIMONS James Servant 16 Unm b Roborough Devon Farm Servant
Cheers Kris :D
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this 1851 entry may also be of interest
HO107/1894 Folio 116 Page 5
Furze Hill
Roborough Torrington Devon
SIMMONS William Head 53 Mar b Atherington Devon Higgler
SIMMONS Barbara Wife 39 Mar b Roborough Higglers Wife
SIMMONS Henry Son 11 b Roborough Scholar
ALFORD Jane Dau in Law 14 Unm b High
Bickington
SIMMONS Elizabeth Dau 2 b Roborough
SIMMONS Barbara Dau 3 Months b Roborough
So there is a second marriage here
Also I c this entry
HO107/1893 Folio 493 Page 6
Fremimgton Town Barnstaple
OAK John Head 45 Mar b Bradworthy Devon Ag Lab
OAK Sarah Wife 41 Mar b Alscot Devon
SYMOND William Father in Law 71 Widow b Roborough Pauper Ag Labourer
No others connected to Roborough
Hope it helps...Kris :D
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Hi Mary C :)
here they are in 1861 - different spelling of the surname. Full house!
James Symons, head, mar, 28, Railwy Porter, Roborough Devon
Mary Symons, wife, 29, Millener, High Bickington Devon
Frederick Symons son, 6, Scholar, High Bickington Devon
Mary, Symons dau, 2, scholar?, Baptist Mills Bristol
William Symons, son, 6 mths, Baptist Mills Bristol
Henry Symons, brother, un, 20, Railway Porter, Roborough Devon
John Bale, lodger, wid.,Railway Porter, Atherington Devon
William Francis Bale, lodger, 2, St Phillips Bristol
William Davy, lodger, wid., 70, Shoemaker, Yarcombe? Devon
Sarina Davy, visitor, un, 33, Vest Maker, High Bickington Devon
Thomas Bale, visitor,un, 24,Blacksmith, Atherington Devon
PRO REF: RG9/1737
Parish: St Phillip& St Jacob
Road, Street &C: 31 William Street
No of Schedule: 239
Folio: 25
Page:43
Baby Willaim appears to have another Christian name squashed in which is very hard to read. It could be Thomas.
Darcy
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onya Darcy.... ;D Look at that Mary the family I found in 51 R the right family... ;D Kris
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Hi Kris ;D ;D How are ya Cobber?
It's great when it all comes together. I'm jealous of Mary's full houses. Lots of interesing possibilities there.
I'm still looking for my lot!
Darcy ;)
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Mary
I have a Simmons / Crane connection in my tree.
William Simmons of Gloucestershire / wraxall / nailsea married sarah crane in 1832, these are my gt grandparents, Mary if there is any connection, can you please respond.
I believe williams parents to be William Simmons and hannah avery both of wraxall, but no confirmed evidence as yet to the link.
Any information on William simmons siblings and parentage would be great.
Regards
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Hi Julie
I'm sorry but I can't help you here. Since my last posts (in 2005) I have managed to find out a lot more about the Simmons family. They were from Devon until James (1834) and his wife Mary Davey moved to Bristol sometime between 1856 and 1861. None of my Simmons family were in Wraxall in the 1800's.
As far as the Crane family is concerned I have only gone back to Frederick Crane (1813) and his wife Lydia Bailey (1806) both born in Bristol. I haven't followed this family up further at this stage. I suppose it is possible that Frederick had a sister Sarah but I haven't come across her. If I do I will let you know.
Sorry I can't be of more help here.
Good luck
Mary
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Thank you for responding.
Just in case you come across more information connected to your tree in the future, My tree starts with
My grandmother Edna Simmons, born 1919, her father is William James Simmons born 1892 were born in Bristol,
William James Simmons father Lionel Simmons 1867 was born in St Phillips, bristol 1881 census places him at 9 chapter street, St George with mother, father and siblings.
William James siblings are Henry 1890, Margaret 1895, Thomas 1900.
Lionel siblings are Frederick 1865, St Phillips, Reginald 1871 St Phillips, Thomas 1873 St Phillips, Henry Evan Simmons 1875, St George bristol.
Lionel's father is charles simmons on the 1881 census shown as living at 9 chapter street, St george, occ carpenter. Siblings Jane, Mary, Ellen, Fanny, Henry, Jane. Majority born in bristol and baptised in Nailsea.
Regards
Julie
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Hi Julie
Edna Simmons was a fourth cousin to my pal Diana, whose tree I am researching for her.
Edna's & Diana's common ancestors were Joseph Crane (1779-1842) and Sophia Shermer (abt 1783-1848)
How can we share lots of more detailed info?
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I would be very interested in sharing information - Do you have an online tree.
:)
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I would be very interested in sharing information - Do you have an online tree.
:)