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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Essex Lookup Requests => Essex => England => Essex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: grubheam on Saturday 26 December 09 16:17 GMT (UK)
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Hi Merry Christmas!
I have trouble finding Josiah Bentley b. 1891, son of Abraham Bentley, no occupation. He married in 1915 ot Alice Knell. He died in 1932 age 41. Josiah's address on marriage cert says Fleeming Road, Walthamstow, Essex. Abrarham was deceased at Josiah's marriage.
It look like Josiah was alone on 1911 and 1901 censuses. I don't think he was born before 1891 census.
There are too many Abraham Bentley on BMD records - how do I know which is him?
Can you help me please?
grub
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Hi Grub,
Is he the pauper age 10 in 1901, born Royston Cambridgeshire?
If so, this looks like his birth registration
Josiah Bentley
Sep 1890 Royston 3a 485
This christening could be a match - Barkway comes under Royston district:
Josiah Bentley
10 Aug 1890
Barkway, Hertfordshire
Parents Abraham Pegram Bentley and Martha Ann
(a brother William James is christened on the same day)
This Josiah is at RG12/1101 50 4 in 1891 - shout if you want the details
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There's a birth registration in Croydon 1864 for Abraham Pegrum Bentley.
Abraham Pegram Bentley marries Martha Ann Hunt in 1889, Royston district and remarries (a 46 year old widowed platelayer, no father shown) an Adelaide Corp on 4th July 1910 in Islington.
Not sure yet where he's hiding on the censuses apart from 1911 :P
Added:
Just searched for a death and the most likely death I see for Abraham is Islington 1920 = after Josiah's marriage :-\
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Oh gosh
where did you find that christening? Where is Royston - I tried Genuki - its says Yorkshire? but according to birth records, it says Cambridgeshire and Essex border - I am confused.
what town is 1891 cnesus please?
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In 1891, he's at Barkway Hertfordshire (possibly mistranscribed as Josie)
I don't know anything about English geography myself but this is what Genuki says about Barkway
http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/HRT/Barkway/index.html
and Royston Registration district:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/royston.html
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thank you v much for 1891 details and records for Abraham
:)
please where can i find Josiah's christening?
grub
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I don't know which sites you have access to. Ancestry have a database of christening transcriptions.
Abraham's birth is on the IGI:
Abraham Pegrum Bentley
4 Sep 1864 Mitcham, Surrey
mother Charlotte Bentley
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OK, here's Abraham on the censuses:
1871: RG10/2247 9 12 Abraham Netherton
1881
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=4791884
RG11/1716 61 33
1891 RG12/3160 125 39 search for an Abram born Mitcham, boarding in Flixton Lancashire
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thank you very much for your help
the family tree is starting looking more sense!
:D
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Hi Grub,
After the excellent work by Tati I have the easy bit to help you.
Marriage;
Charlotte BENTLEY
September 1867
Croydon
2a 338
On same page William Henry NETHERTON
1881 census has Charlotte born 1840, Merton, Surrey
From IGI;
Charlotte BENTLEY
Christened 15 March 1840, Merton, Surrey
Parents, WILLIAM/FRANCIS
1841 Census
Swains Lane,
Mitcham, Surrey
HO107/1079/6/Mitcham
Wm BENTLY, 35, Ag Lab
Frances, 35, not born in County
Caroline, 14
Charles, 12
Frederick, 10
Louisa, 9
Emma, 6
Mary, 4
CHARLOTTE, 16 months
All others born in County except Francis
Looks like Francis was born Surrey.
1851 Census
Swains Lane,
Mitcham, Surrey
HO1071602/186/32
William BENTLEY, 46, Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born Surrey, Merton
Frances, 44, Wife, Mar, born Surrey, Thorpe
Louisa, 18, Daug, Unm, Ag Lab, born Surrey, Wimbleton
Emma, 16, Daug, Unm, born Surrey, Merton
Mary, 13, Daug, Unm, born Surrey, Merton
CHARLOTTE, 11, Daug, Unm, born Surrey, Merton
Eliza, 9, Daug, Unm, born Surrey, Mitcham
Elizabeth, 6, Unm, born Surrey, Mitcham
Harriet, 2, Daug, born Surrey, Mitcham
John SPENCER, 20, Lodger, Unm, Ag Lab, born Herts
Marriage from IGI;
William BENTLERY
Frances THATCHER
31 October 1825, Ewell, Surrey, England
Trish :)
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The 1861 Census has William born c 1803 and 1881 as 1802, so this may be his possible christening;
William BENTLEY
Christened 05 September 1802, Merton, Surrey
Parents, ROBERT/ELIZABETH
(extracted record IGI)
Siblings;
CHARLES, 1793
MARIA, 1795
ANN, 1798
ELIZABETH, 1800
CHARLOTTE, 1805
GEORGE, 1813
Trish :)
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Had a laugh :D Im sorry, when I found a Margaret Thatcher in your Tree.
Birth/Christening
Frances THATCHER
Birth, 19 January 1806
Christened, 16 February 1806, Thorpe , Surrey
Parents, JOHN/MARGARET
Siblings;
JAMES, 1802
RICHARD 1804
FREDERICK 1813
1841 Census
Thorpe, Surrey
HO107/1074/13/Thorpe
John THATCHER, 70, Ag Lab
Margt Thatcher, 70
Josh Thatcher, 25
All born in County
Egham is the reg district for Thorpe and one one Census Frances says she is born Egram not Thorpe.
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Hi Trish
thank you for your help
happy new year
grub
:)
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My Aunt is the Granddaughter of Abraham Pegram Bentley and has been researching our family tree. Why are you interested in this family are you related to Abraham? Thanks.
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Hi, Not sure if you are still on Rootschat? I inherited my aunt's ancestry files and have information regarding Abraham Pegram Bentley who was my Grandmother's father. Let me know if I can help. For some reason I think we have chatted before!
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Welcome to Rootschat NLC66
Neither grub or nic have been on here since 2009/2010 so you may not get a reply.
People change email addresses and sometimes pass away.
Trish :)
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Hello Trish, Many thanks for the welcome. I have just inherited my aunt's ancestry files. I'm working my way through them. Very interesting I must say! It turns out I live in the village where most of ancestors lives or lived around. I had no idea! Well it's nice to find out a little bit of history I must say. :)
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Gosh so long ago......no i was doing research for a friend Andrea
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Ahhh OK. If Andrea would like to contact me, please feel free. Thank you :)
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Good to see you replied grub :)