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Can anyone tell me about Station Hotel, Grasslot, Maryport ? The period I am specifically interested in is c. 1940. Where was it located, and does it still exist.
Thanks
Sue
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There is a Glasslot Street at the south end of Maryport http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=303492&Y=535759&A=Y&Z=110
Looking at the 1867 map of the same area at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/IndexMapPage2.aspx
there was a Station Inn at the west side of the nearby crossroads.
Is it still there? I'm not sure http://tinyurl.com/y9d3c4w
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Thanks - that has been a great help. Ive just looked at my 1899 map of Maryport and can see the letters PH in the same spot. Id not spotted that before.
Sue
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Grasslot is the little village/hamlet on the south side of the bridge over the river ellen southish of Maryport. It's 10 or 15 years since I worked down there but there was a large white square pub on the west side of of the road to Workington. I can also say that there is no Station Hotel/Inn listed in todays directory. There was an industrial estate in Grasslot on the site of an old pit but it seemed to collapse in the late 80's early 90's when the goverment training centre closed.
bob
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Hi Bob & Sue
I guess that would be in the days before they knocked the old station down! I'll see if I have any photo's but I wouldn't get your hopes up!
If you were close enough to the right library, you could trawl a few news papers for the time. There area court records for licences and also loads of stories of events in pubs such as crimes, postmortems, sales of property, political meetings etc.
We have quite a few stories of the various pubs/hotels the family were involved with in Derby, which ghave come from Newspapers.
Just an idea! Good hunting! ;D ;D ;D
Emms :)
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We will be in Cumbria in early March, so will have a closer look at the area. On previous visits we have just driven past, but some WWII Service records have indicated that the family were at the Station Hotel, albeit for a short period of time. So - we will try and have a closer look at old maps, directories and papers to see what we can find. If we could identify the Brewery it belonged to - we may find clues in their records, although we failed to find anything for the former Miners Arms at Flimby, when we went through the Jennings records at Whitehaven RO.
Sue
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If I was a betting man I would have said John Peel brewery (wonderful drink until you hit the fresh air at 11 pm and then you fell over!) at Workington (at the top of the hill above the cricket ground and above the closed bridge) or Carlisle State Brewery. I'm having a day off tomorrow so I'll check the directories for you.
bob
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Thanks Bob. The name we are interested in is Jacob Dixon. His son gave Station Hotel, Grasslot as his parents address when he joined up.
Sue
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Wasnt that the place where I believe Sue Johnstones ancestors lived. I am trying to recall the first program of the first series of WDYTYA
Rob
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Wasnt that the place where I believe Sue Johnstones ancestors lived. I am trying to recall the first program of the first series of WDYTYA
I thought that was at Workington.
EDIT: Yes, here it is http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/familyhistory/get_started/wdytya_s1_celeb_gallery_03.shtml
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Yep it was thx Geoff
Rob
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Yes Geoff, right outside the station and last time I saw it, it was the Union Jack club
bob
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typical. historicaldirectories.org were down today but they would only have taken me to 1919. The carlisle state records seem to concentrate on carlisle and the John peel google site seems overcome by the smell of molasses.
I can tell you it was there in 1952 as Senhouse sold some land - presumably at an auction there and it seems to figure in a govt report into areas of high unemployment in 1934 so that might help. Go to national archives and put grasslot in search box. I'll try the directories again tomorrow.
bob
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Hi Sue, Bob & All :)
Where do you reckon Maryport Brewery fits into any of this, anyone? :-\
(Edit & find, to about half way down the page).
http://www.pastpresented.info/cumbria/parton/oops.htm
Looks like they've been updating on Past Presented.
Emms :) :) :)
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So add some confusion, apparently Maryport Brewery was in Carlisle http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1917/jun/27/maryport-brewery-carlisle
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Mmm ::) ::) ::)
Definitely adds to the confusion!
Great site though. Thank you, Goeffe, I shall be spending some time when I get chance, exploring that!
Best wishes!
Emms :) :) :)
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Geoff, not sure that's true. I think hansard is probably referring to the Maryport Brewery pubs that were taken over in the state management scheme. Remember we had a pub on every corner and 2 inbetween and loads were closed under state management. (Deliberate little letter) stevebulman seems to be the site to seek lists and closures for the pubs and breweries. He lists 4 breweries in Carlisle but none of them Maryport but it is likely that Maryport had tied pubs that were taken over and probably closed as that would cause less uproar with the locals.
Oh it's good to be back. :)
bob
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You're probably right Bob :)
...having began in the 1750s, the Maryport Brewery Company was established in 1780, and by the late Nineteenth Century owned 60 public houses. State control of brewing in 1916 resulted in output being halved, and by November 1921 the business had ceased.
Copied from http://www.allerdale.gov.uk/downloads/page216/Maryport%20Maritime%20Museum%20guide.pdf
I think we were talking about 1940ish.
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Hi Heathers, If you are interested in old photographs, there is a 'photo of the Station Hotel in, 'Images of England - Maryport', by Keith Thompson, on page 91. ISBN 0-7524-2158-1. It looks a very old 'photo but it doesn't give a year of when it was taken. However it does say that 'Tom Woodward is standing outside his hotel'.
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Hi again, Looking at that 'photo - the building is still standing, but the name has changed to 'The Station'. It is on the A595 through Maryport, on the corner of Ellenborough Place/A595.
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I'll have a look next time we are up in Cumberland
Thanks
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Hi again, Looking at that 'photo - the building is still standing, but the name has changed to 'The Station'. It is on the A595 through Maryport, on the corner of Ellenborough Place/A595.
Here it is on StreetView http://tinyurl.com/5u8bw4z
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Even better - now we will know what to look for
Thanks
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Hi Heathers
The Miners Arms just as you enter Flimby has now been converted into a house.
Was a lovely old pub..I was born and bred in Flimby until I flew the nest to Carlisle haha.
If you google street view for Flimby you will see what it looks like now.
Regards
Catherine