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Title: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: Bhoy on Friday 25 December 09 19:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Can anyone point me to a map of Mongahan townlands, specifically those of Donagh & Errigal Trough parishes?

The best map I've located is the Griffiths info at AskAboutIreland, but I was hoping for something easier to use.  Otherwise, all I've found are simple lists. 

Any help gratefully received.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 26 December 09 10:54 GMT (UK)
The townland names and borders are shown on the maps at : OSI (http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx#V1,721725,726560,2) Select the Historic BW or Historic 25i options.

(the maps are down for maintenance until 28th Dec)


Shane
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: Bhoy on Saturday 26 December 09 14:30 GMT (UK)
The townland names and borders are shown on the maps at : OSI (http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx#V1,721725,726560,2) Select the Historic BW or Historic 25i options.

(the maps are down for maintenance until 28th Dec)


Shane

Thanks.  Will try that when it becomes available again.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 27 December 09 00:30 GMT (UK)
Have done a pile of research in this area as a lot of mine are buried in E Trough/Glennan/Donagh etc, who are you looking for?
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 27 December 09 00:41 GMT (UK)
Hello hallmark! Do you happen to have any Hughes from Donagh parish...my husband's paternal line were potato famine Irish from that parish.....Happy holidays to you and yours!   ;D  Pat
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 27 December 09 00:52 GMT (UK)
Religion?
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 27 December 09 00:53 GMT (UK)
Hi hallmark, sorry I forgot to mention...all were Roman Catholic... Pat
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 27 December 09 01:09 GMT (UK)
Sorry but at the moment I only have C of England, C of Ire, Presbys with a sprinkling of Methodists in my database.

I have about 450 Hughes records for Donagh/Glaslough/E Trough area and haven't started on R C's. yet although I've been around Catholic g/yards I haven't logged them yet, even though I discovered a few of my C of I relatives buried in Catholic g/yards!
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 27 December 09 01:39 GMT (UK)
Hello again hallmark, just for the record, my husband's oldest known Irish ancestor was John Hughes born about 1801 in Donagh parish,Co. Monaghan and his wife was Sarah Ann Conlin b. abt 1802 in Ardboe, Co. Tyrone, Ireland.  They apparently married in Ireland and came to the US during the Potato Famine era with 8 children and settled in a place called "Irish Settlement" in Wayne County, Pennsylvania.  Today it is called Rock Lake, PA and John and Sarah's tombstones at St. Juliana's Church cemetery both proudly proclaim their native parish and county...If, by chance, you can ever find any further information on John and/or Sarah we'd love to hear from you.   Thank you kindly!  Pat
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 27 December 09 01:50 GMT (UK)
No problem Pat, just be aware that it could be Conlin/Conlan etc, they would most probably got married in Ardboe, as normally the marriage takes place in girl's parish!
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: patrexjax on Sunday 27 December 09 01:55 GMT (UK)
Hi again! Yes, thank you for those additional reminders...Pat
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 30 December 09 16:14 GMT (UK)
These would be under the Trough Barony, which has 268 townlands

Aghaloughan, Aghaboy, Aghadrumcru, Aghaderry, Aghaliskeevan, Aghamackalinn, Aghnavar, Aghnagap, Attiduff, Cavan (Cope), Cavan (Moutray), Corragh (Maxwell), Mullabrack (Scott), Mullabrack (Shaw), Enagh, Ardkirk, Ardginny, Ardnasallem, Ballynahone, Belderg, Bellanaman, Billis, Bragan, Brackagh, Cavanleckagh, Cavanmore, Carrigans, Ivyhill, Kiltubbrid, Cloghnart, Cloghfin, Cloghernagh, Clery, Clonacullen, Clonkeen, Cloncaw, Clonleek, Clonisboyle, Clanickny, Knockabeany, Knockaphubble, Knockakirwan, Knockronaghan, Knockconan, Knocknacarney, Knocknagrave, Knocknasave, Killakeady, Kilvey, Killycarran, Kilcran, Killanny, Killeanly, Kilfahavon, Kilnageer, Kilnagullan, Kilnadreen, Killyconigan, Killybern, Killybressal, Killybreen, Killyboley, Killybrone, Killyhoman, Killycorran, Killycooly, Killydonagh, Killydreen, Killyfaragh, Killylaragh, Killyleck (Anketell), Killyleck (Lucas), Killyloughavoy, Killymurry, Killyrean Lower, Killyrean Upper, Killyreask, Killyslavan, Kiltybegs, Corry, Corracrin, Corclare, Corgreenan, Corlattallan, Cornacreeve, Cornaheive, Cornanure, Straghan or Cornasore, Corryarbeg, Creevelea, Creaghan, Crossnacaldoo, Coolcollid, Curkin, Corraghdown, Corraghbrack x 2, Corraghduff, Davagh Etra, Davagh Otra, Desert, Derrynarget, Derryveagh, Derryhee, Derrykinard, Derrykinnigh Beg, Derrykinnigh More, Derryhoosh, Derrygassan Lower, Derrygassan Upper, Derrygola, Derrygorry, Derrilla, Derrylevick, Derrylea Beg, Derrylea More, Derrylea, Derryveen, Dernaved, Dernacoo, Dernadarriff, Dernagola, Dernahatten, Dernahinch, Dernalosset, Dernamuck, Derrynashallog, Derryrellan, Derryhellan, Derryhallagh, Donagh, Drumartigan, Drumbanagher, Drumbirn, Drumcaw, Drumconnelly, Drumcondra, Drumgaghan, Drumbristan, Drumfernasky, Drumarrell, Drumfurrer, Drumgarn, Drumgeeny, Drumlester, Dunmadigan, Dromore, Drummully, Drumnolan, Drumsheeny, Drumturk, Doagheys, Dundian, Dundonagh, Dungillick, Eden Island, Edenmore, White Island, Annaghbeg, Annacatty, Aghnaha, Annareagh South, Annareagh North, Annagh, Annagola, Astrish Beg, Astrish More, Esker, Faulkland, Figullar, Figanny, Golan, Girfin, Glaslough, Glasmullagh, Glen Beg, Glen More, An Gleannán/Glebe, Gorticleave, Gortmoney, Greagh, Griggy, Hillhall, Inishdevlin, Emy, Letgonnelly, Latgee, Letloonigan, Lenagh, Leek, Lisavargy, Lisboy, Lisgoagh, Lisseagh, Liskenna, Lisgrew, Lisroosky, Legacurry, Luppan, Looart, Moy, Mount Anketell, Mullan, Monmurry, Mullynure, Mullaloughan, Mullaghbane, Mullabryan, Mullanlary, Mullaghcor, Mullanderg, Mulladermot, Mullaghduff, Mullaghnahegny, Mullaliss, Mullanafinnog,  Mullaghmore, Mullanacask, Mullanacross,  Mullananallog, Mullaghpeak, Mullyjordan, Mullaghselsana, Mullagh Otra, Mullamurphy, Elvey, Pullis, Foxhole, Portinaghy, Rakelly, Raflacony, Ralaghan, Rarutagh, Rossarrell, Sillis, Scarnageeragh or Emyvale, Skinnagin, Skinnahergna, Shanco, Shanmullagh, Sogher, Stramore, Streanduff, Srananny, Tamlat, Tavanagh, Tonynumery, Tonintlieve, Tonyfohanan, Tonysillogagh, Tonyshandeny, Tonyhamigan, Tonycoogan, Tonyfinnigan, Tonygarvey, Telaydan, Tireran, Tirnaneill, Tiramoan, Tullyard, Tullycallick, Tullyree, Tully, Urlish

Moderator's Note: post condensed as it was too long. See www.thecore.com/seanruad to find townland, parishes, etc. in Ireland
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: jackstorey on Wednesday 30 December 09 17:02 GMT (UK)
For spelling, location, maps & history of each townland there is a book "Landscapes of South Ulster" which only covers the Clogher Diocese - this is the most comprehensive data available on Clogher Diocese Townland.  This book (now out of print) sells at £250 + as it is seen as a reference tool for Clogher Diocese.  When i purchased this book some years ago  it was still in print.  I send out copies of maps upon request.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: jackstorey on Thursday 31 December 09 16:35 GMT (UK)
There is only one way to find & understand the Townlands of Clogher Dioces (which includes all of County Monaghan) -  a book entitled 'Landscapes of South Ulster' - sadly out of print - I have a copy & will send you the Parish Maps you are searching.  My e-mail address can be found on all the Rootsweb, Ancestry & Genealogy.com websites - I cannot enter it here.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: hallmark on Friday 01 January 10 01:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks Aghadowey...apologies for list turning out that way!


Happy New Year to you and all the Moderators for a wonderful job you do!
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: Bhoy on Tuesday 05 January 10 20:17 GMT (UK)
There is only one way to find & understand the Townlands of Clogher Dioces (which includes all of County Monaghan) -  a book entitled 'Landscapes of South Ulster' - sadly out of print - I have a copy & will send you the Parish Maps you are searching.  My e-mail address can be found on all the Rootsweb, Ancestry & Genealogy.com websites - I cannot enter it here.

Thanks Jack for the map of Errigal Trough you sent & the one of Donagh that's on its way.   These are exactly what I was after, in that they show me the townlands in context & their spatial relationships with each other.  A simple list doesn't do that.

And thanks of course to all others who've tried to assist here.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: jackstorey on Wednesday 20 January 10 20:08 GMT (UK)
OK I have the Parish maps of all of Clogher Diocese parishes by Patrick J. Duffy - these are extracted from Landscapes of South Ulster which includes a history of each Parish together with a map & a list of "equivalent" townlands - these are the alternative names given to some townlands - very important. 
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: jackstorey on Thursday 21 January 10 12:53 GMT (UK)
The only maps of Monaghan Townlands & those of Clogher Diocese are to be found in the book "Landscapes of South Ulster" by Patrick Duffy.   This book, sadly out of print now, is a MUST for researchers of the Monaghan Townlands, Parishes etc.  The maps are extremely accurate, show the towns, villages, church locations & the roads.  With each Parish map is a history of the Parish which often explains the origins of the Townland names & the "alternative" townland names, without which the data linked to Family names is irrelevant.  One of the most informative is the history of Donagh (or Glaslough) Parish which explains how land changed hands over the centuries & how many of the dominant families became less important.  Frequently battles or skirmishes decided the ownership of land so this book is an essential to those who really want to discover the history of their family.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: Mr J T Arthur on Friday 22 January 10 10:36 GMT (UK)
I have a copy of 'Landscapes of South Ulster' which I ordered when first published and agree with all Jack says but to save possible confusion it is worth pointing out that the maps actually are of the Catholic parishes which occasionally differ from the civil parishes. For instance, Inniskeen consists of the whole of the civil parish of Inishkeen (note even the spelling is different) including seven townland in Co Louth, and a large part of the civil parish of Donaghmoyne.

The poet Patrick Kavanagh was a native of Mucker, a townland in the civil parish of Donaghmoyne but in the Catholic parish of Inniskeen as shown in the book.

J.T.A.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: jackstorey on Thursday 04 March 10 11:11 GMT (UK)
Each Parish is listed separately & includes its townland maps, shows the position of Churches, major towns, villages etc.  Without this resource is is useless trying to do Family History.  "Landscapes of South Ulster"  now out of print, a most essential book contains all this data including a History of each Parish.  One of the most useful parts is the "alternative townlands" list which usually anglicizes the old Irish Townland names.   Some Churches used almost exclusively the "alternative names". I cannot list my e-mail address here so if you visit all the Genealogy Websites you will see my e-mail address.  I will copy the Parishes you require and send them to you.   
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: angelan on Saturday 03 April 10 15:59 BST (UK)
Hi,

Can anyone point me to a map of Mongahan townlands, specifically those of Donagh & Errigal Trough parishes?

The best map I've located is the Griffiths info at AskAboutIreland, but I was hoping for something easier to use.  Otherwise, all I've found are simple lists. 

Any help gratefully received.



If you haven't already contacted him, I can recommend Jackstorey's Monaghan maps. I had the same problem as you with the askaboutireland maps. They are a great resource, but you need to know which part of the map you need to zoom onto.

Jack emailed me copies of Monaghand Townlands and I easily found the ones I wanted. I was able to go back to askaboutireland and found what wanted straight away!

Angela
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: Bhoy on Sunday 04 April 10 09:59 BST (UK)
Yes, Jack was kind enough to do this for me as well.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: pekellyco on Thursday 28 February 13 05:45 GMT (UK)
I don't understand what Jack Storey is indicating in how to find his e-mail address.  I want to ask him for a copy of the Ralaghan map as I have traced my family to that townland.
Title: Re: Monaghan Townlands
Post by: trigger happy on Thursday 28 February 13 10:45 GMT (UK)
I don't understand what Jack Storey is indicating in how to find his e-mail address.  I want to ask him for a copy of the Ralaghan map as I have traced my family to that townland.

Ralaghan can be  found easily using google maps. Then using the online ordinance survey maps at osi.ie you can see the location in the historical maps down to building level. I used the 6inch color view.