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Title: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: robsdad on Thursday 17 December 09 17:12 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
Would someone please try to locate a James Harvatt ( many different spellings of the latter part of name )  Last found 1881 in John Street Brierley Hill with wife and family -  He was born Bewdley area Worcs.
Any help would be much appreciated.
regards
robsdad
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please
Post by: Tati on Thursday 17 December 09 17:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Robsdad,

Caroline Harvoutt age 64
Jun 1885 Stourbridge 6c 111

1891
RG12/2309 21 11
Kingswinford, Staffrordshire
Brierley Hill
16 Cottage St
4 rooms occupied

James Harvoutt, head, 39, Waggoner, b. Brierley Hill
Mary A, wife, 32, b. do.
James, father, wid, 71, Carter, b. Worcester Bewdley
Charles, brother, mar, 30, Carter, b. do.
Annie, dau, 12, b. Brierley Hill
Sarah A, dau, 5, b. do.
James, son, 3, b. do.
Mary E, dau, 1, b. do.

 :)
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please
Post by: Tati on Thursday 17 December 09 17:43 GMT (UK)
1901
RG13/2757 155 13
Kingswinford
Wordsley
Union Workhouse, Stream Road

Harvout James, wid, 83, Carter, b. Bewdley Worcs

Death
James Harvoutt age 86
Mar 1905
Stourbridge 6c 115


Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please
Post by: robsdad on Thursday 17 December 09 20:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Tati,
Wonderful, I will never be out of your debt.
regards
robsdad
 
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please
Post by: Tati on Thursday 17 December 09 20:04 GMT (UK)
Consider that you already are  :D
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: pauljj on Tuesday 29 December 09 07:40 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm looking for relatives of Louisa Harvoutt, daughter of James died 1905,
his dads name also James, born around 1820, could this be your family members tati,

 Many thank,
     pauljj.
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: robsdad on Tuesday 29 December 09 18:46 GMT (UK)
Hi pauljj,
Looks like James Harvoutt snr. was married to my 2xGt Grandmother and in 1891 lived with his son at 16 Cottage St Brierley Hill.
If this is one and the same he was christened in Rock Worcs. 18.12.1821 father William mother Elizabeth.
Surname then was Harvatt but there were a few different spellings between then and 1905 his death.
Does this ring any bells ?
regards
robsdad
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: pauljj on Wednesday 30 December 09 00:37 GMT (UK)
Hi,
 James snr 1921, was father to James, [ There was also a son  born James,
but i think he changed it to Jim] Father to Louisa, my gran,   my mothers mom,      who had two brothers and one sister,    also Louisa married again to a guy called Pettit,   Don't know his first name yet [ working on that] and had at least 2 more children, Jimmy and Edward, Have many more names from register you may be interested in,
 Keep in Touch ,
pauljj
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: robsdad on Wednesday 30 December 09 10:25 GMT (UK)
Hi pauljj,
Unfortunately my line goes though a son that Caroline Maria Knowles had prior to her marriage to James Harvett in 1848 at Rock Worcs. The son Joseph Knowles father unknown
spent much of his youth with his uncle and both were butchers in Brierley Hill.
I have really no useful info. on the Harvett ( Harvoutt ) line other than the census details to 1901 which I assume you already have.
regards
robsdad
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: pauljj on Wednesday 30 December 09 17:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,
thanks for your info, i will dig deeper and get back to you if i find anything useful.
I found  family tree maker in the USA, logged on and discovered Harvatt , Harvett tree  is this your family tree?
 Hope your research is more fruitful in the new year,
       Happy new year to you and your family.
                                                               pauljj
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: robsdad on Thursday 31 December 09 11:58 GMT (UK)
Hi
Harvett is not my direct tree, James Harvett from Rock in Worcestershire was step father to Joseph Knowles my 2xGt grandfather.
Joseph was born to Caroline Maria Knowles before she married James in 1848 and his father was unknown.
regards
robsdad

Happy new year to you and yours
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: gharvat on Sunday 17 January 10 04:59 GMT (UK)
Greetings robsdad and pauljj.  I am a descendant of James and Caroline through their son Daniel Henry Harvat/Harvatt/Harvoutt.  My genealogy research has been on the back burner for a few years now, but somehow ran across this post!  I'm thrilled to hear of other descendants out there.

Greg
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: pauljj on Sunday 17 January 10 22:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Greg,
Ive only just started doing my family tree, its become addictive,. My line extends through James Harvatt / Harvoutt, born Bewdley moving to Brierley Hill Staffordshire.  my gran was Louisa,  married name Pettit , my mother,    Emily Anne, sons Alan, John and myself Paul.
                                                        Please   keep us updated if you would ,
                                                                                      pauljj
Title: Re: 1891 / 1901 Census look up please COMPLETED
Post by: gharvat on Friday 22 January 10 05:50 GMT (UK)
Hello again Paul.  This part of our tree is very confusing.  It seems that the Harvat (all spelling variations) families in this small area each had numerous children.  Each of the families, in each generation, named their children the same!  So there are multiple James, Thomas, Edward, William, etc. Harvats from Bewdley that are brothers, cousins, uncles, fathers.  Ironically, this continued through my lineage - my father had brothers named Daniel, James, Edward, and Thomas!

It is my understanding that the James Harvat (our gr, gr, grandfather)(who married to Caroline Maria Knowles) was born around 1820 and died in 1905 (as mentioned by robsdad).  Children with them as listed on the 1861 census were Ann (10), James (9 *your gr, grandfather), William (5), and Thomas (3).  Children with them as listed on the 1881 census were Thomas (22), Charles (19), Henry (15), and Daniel (13 *my gr, grandfather).

Louisa Harvoutt appears in the England and Wales Marriage Index, 1916-2005 as marrying George Pettit in the Oct-Nov-Dec 1917 time period in Stourbridge, Worcestershire.

Louisa Harvoutt (7) also appears on the 1901 census with her siblings Sarah A (15), Jun (probably Jim) (13), Lizzie (11), Daisy (5), and Jack (2).  Their parents were James (50 *your gr, grandfather) and Mary A (46).

Do the puzzle pieces fit?  I'm sure you found a number of Louisa Harvat / Harvatt / Harvett / Harvoutt in your searches as well...the common names make research a chore! hehe

Hope this helps.

Greg