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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Rocky1 on Tuesday 08 December 09 23:30 GMT (UK)
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Where can I find names of the tenants who, in 1906, lived at 25 Hallside Street , Glasgow, (would this be Hutchesontown?) and how can I find out long they lived at that same address.
Many thanks.
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Hallside Street was in the Gorbals/Hutchesontown area but no longer exists - The Hallside name was reused in the 1990's for Hallside Place in the same area.
The Mitchell Library holds some records but the only online resource for checking the tenancy of Glasgow houses are the 1913/1914 valuation rolls at The Glasgow Story
Glasgow Story Valuation Rolls (http://www.theglasgowstory.co.uk/valindex.php?PHPSESSID=4bbd088459974d65a2d3b9e444d63c3c)
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Thanks Falkryn,
I've given the Evaluation Rolls a go, but no luck pulling up Hallside Street or Place.
Now I'm wondering if there's a Census later than 1901 that I can access on a computer. I'm looking for a specific family named Docherty, parents John and Helen.
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Strange I've had a look at Hallside Street in the Valuation rolls - No 25 has quite a few tenants listed - what names are you interested in ?
Re the census the 1911 census will not be released in Scotland until 2011 as, unlike its English counterpart, the Scottish Freedom of Information Act specifically included Census data and ruled that it was not to be released.
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Tenants listed at 25 Hallside Street in 1913
George Ritchie, Porter
Malcolm Sillars, Labourer
William Buchanan
James Leyden
Mrs Janet Denholm
James Carroll
James Donnelly
Michael Hollywood
George Donnelly
Michael Kaplan
William McDonald
James Robertson
James Weir
Mary Ann Robertson
William Brown
James O'Donnell
Thomas Holden
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Hi Falkryn,
I took another look at the Evaluation Rolls, this time looked at the streets in Ward 21, and found Hallside Street there.
Thanks again.
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my great grandad was malcom sillars my nana was born in hallside street in 1907 i will ask her tomorrow if she remembers the docherty`s if she does i will let you know
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spoke to my nana today she remembers the docherty`s but she was only young at the time so i don`t think she remembers much about them
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Tenants listed at 25 Hallside Street in 1913
George Ritchie, Porter
Malcolm Sillars, Labourer
William Buchanan
James Leyden
Mrs Janet Denholm
James Carroll***
James Donnelly
Michael Hollywood
George Donnelly
Michael Kaplan
William McDonald
James Robertson
James Weir
Mary Ann Robertson
William Brown
James O'Donnell
Thomas Holden
That James Carroll was my great grandfather! ;D
He was living there when he married in June 1913
Annette
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Hi everyone, it took me a a little longer than i thought to find you with help from ruskie who got me to your posts, I was born at 31,Hallside in 1946 was there till 1960 if anyone lived or new anyone who might haved lived their,i would love to say hello thank you.
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Meant to say in my post, that my grandmother on my mother"s side lived at no 19, my gran"s name was annie my granddad was known as jock (john Kenny). any infomation on them would be fantastic.
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Hello Rocky1
Did you find your Docherty family in 1906?
The 1905-06 Post Office directory for Glasgow, at
http://www.archive.org/details/postofficeannual190506gla
says that Hallside Street goes from Naburn Street to Upper Camden Street, but could not find it in the street section. A search for John Docherty gives the following:
John Docherty, 198 Berkeley Street
J. Docherty, broker, 49 Clyde Street, Anderton
John Docherty, 146 Onslow Drive
John Docherty, Cab & Carriage Hirer, 74 Tobago Street
J.R.Docherty, Tea Dealer, Wholesale & Exclusive, 259 Rutherglen Road
The 1906-07 Post Office directory for Glasgow, at
http://www.archive.org/details/postofficeannual190607gla
Lists the following people in Hallside Street:
29 Garrity, J.
35 Kelly, P
42 Fyfe, W
6, 2 Turner, A, spirit Merchant
Maybe they only listed owners? Surely all the intervening numbered houses wouldn't be vacant?
Dawn M
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Forgot to say - you can look at these online, or download as a .pdf document for free but they are large files so take a while to download
Dawn M
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Thank you so much for infomation, also there were a family by the name of carrols who lived up my close for a few yrs only remember them because my older brother was friends with them but he is now deceased.
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Billyblue, thanks for your help.
I have since been informed that the Docherty and Donnelly families were related, so it's possible that John Docherty and wife in 1906 lived with the Donnelys temporarily.
I have a later address of 147 Lawmoor Street for Docherty. I'm told that at one time Lawmoor Street was called 'South Wellington Street'. A search of the Evaluation Rolls for 1913-14 shows a John Docherty listed as a tenant. No occupation given. My John Docherty was an 'Iron Turner' who may have been employed at 'Dixon's blazes' nearby.
There doesn't appear to be a search in the 1911 census for occupants at a specific address. Unfortunately I don't have a birthdate.
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Hi Welcome did you know any of the Gray`s from Hallside street................... :)
mgm
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Hi m.g.m. sorry i have just spotted you post i knew a family called greys i was friends with a margrat grey who lived next close to me i will get back to you tomorrow as it is late and have to be up early talk later.
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That`s fine,margeret grey was my mother,she moved to Naburn st,I was brought up there ,I went to St Francis School,my mother died in 1966......... :'(
did you know any of the other family.......... ???
mgm
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Hi mgm, I remember your mum well,i have often thought of her down through the yrs,sad to think that she has passed away she was really nice. I dont remember anyone else in the family(sorry).take care.
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I just found out today that my great grandparents, the Lynch's lived there in the 1920-1930s
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Hi. Apologies for bringing up this old post, but on researching my Grandparents etc., I looked up my Father's birth certificate where his birth is registered at 31 Hallside Street 1916 and upon checking for the street location, I came across this post, so decided to register in your very informative forums.
If anyone is still interested in the family who lived there, I can offer some information.
Family name: Johnston
Householder: Robert Paul Forrester Johnston
Wife: Augusta, Jane, Yielding Johnston (ne McBeth) Known as Jeannie.
Child born: Robert, Paul, Forrester, Johnston (jnr - my Father) 1916
I do have lots more information on my ancestors living there at that time. Just send a message and I will be happy to offer anything of interest.
Thank you for accepting me in these forums.
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Hello and great to find a post about a property I'm interested in
Tenants in 1923 John McLaughlan and wife Elizabeth. Son called Averell b1916ish.
Immigration paperwork has this address as their last before embarking to NZ in 1923.
Would love to know any other details of this family prior to immigration.
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Hi Jangar,
Is it possible the family came to Scotland from Ireland?
I can't find a birth for Averell with any kind of variant, nothing remotely like it on SP?
Annie
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Hi Annie, thanks for looking. We found Averell's birth details on Ancestry in Belfast. b1916. This somehow is at odds with the date of birth on the shipping document and the family stating they are Scots. With a name like Averill it shouldn't be this hard...lol J x
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The ancestry entry is more likely I'd think in this case.
Lots of people boarding at the same time & errors do happen when people are in a hurry.
Add...https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records
Annie
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Yes, in the 1911 there's a large numberof John McLaughlins, none of which we can rule in or out from Scotland or Ireland His occupation was a plumber by 1923.
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What was Elizabeth's maiden name or will you need the BC for Averell to find out?
I edited my last post to add a link.
Annie
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We found Averell's birth details on Ancestry in Belfast. b1916.
What you posted is not the 'birth details', it's an index entry pointing you towards the genuine birth details.
You can view the original document at https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01330/1549272.pdf
Elizabeth's maiden surname is Forbes. She married John McLaughlin on 2 June 1915. You can view the marriage certificate at https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09808/5561210.pdf
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Will need to buy Averill birth cert but it will not come up on GRONI to do this
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Will need to buy Averill birth cert but it will not come up on GRONI to do this
No, you don't need to go to GRONI. All Irish certificates before partition in 1922 are on Irish Genealogy.ie for free.
I gave you the exact reference in my previous reply but if you prefer you can start at https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ and do your own search.
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Oh my goodness, I missed that reply. How can I ever thank you. Kindest regards J x