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Title: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Alberta exile on Monday 07 December 09 20:32 GMT (UK)
hi
I have a relative Robert Munro b.1845 who married Barbara Wilson b.1848 in February of 1868.
In the 1881 census he was listed as seaman aboard Alexandra Monkwearmouth shore Durham.
He is merchant marine and I was wondering what kind of ship Alexandra was and if anybody had any extra info
Thanks
Ian
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Saturday 02 January 10 15:52 GMT (UK)
Hello
I have just seen your posting.  I am  related to Robert Munro and Barbara Wilson via their son Francis George Munro born about 1870 in Portsoy. Robert and Barbara had at least 9 children. Robert was born in Cullen, Banffshire.  The family were living at Virginia Street, Aberdeen for a number of years. Robert died in 1916 at Commerce Street, Aberdeen.  His occupation then was given as a night watchman.  Barbara died at the same address in 1927.

I wonder if the Alexander could have been a coal ship.  As Durham was a coal mining area.

I would be interested to know which of Robert and Barbara's children you are descended from.

Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Alberta exile on Saturday 02 January 10 17:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Johan
Robert and Barbara had William C Munro b.1874
He married Grace Robertson b. 1876
At Waverley Hall, St Paul Street, Aberdeen December 18th 1896
I am a Robertson on my mothers side.
I have no other Munro information, so any thing would help
Ian
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Sunday 03 January 10 13:12 GMT (UK)
Hello Ian

Robert and Barbara's other children were:
Mary Ann born either 1869 or 1871
Francis George b. approx 1870 Known as Frank
Robert b. 1871
William 1873
John 1876
James 1878
Barbara 1882
Johan 1885
Jane 1887
These dates  are approximate

Barbara the elders parents were given as George Wilson and Helen Watson.  Robert and Barbara married in Aberdeen on 3/2/1868.  He was living at 46 Virginia Street and was a merchant seaman aged 22.  Barbara was aged 20 and living at 32 Windy Wynd, Aberdeen.

Roberts father was also named Robert and was born about 1808 in Grange nr Deskford Banffshire.  His father was William a Crofter and his mother was Isobel Addison.

Robert was married twice.  His first wife was Catherine Thompson, they married in 1826 at Fordyce, which also includes Portsoy.  They had at least 2 children Janet born in 1827 and Margaret born in 1832.  Catherine died and Robert married Jane Grant in 1836 at Fordyce. Her father's name was John Grant, possibly from Elgin, Morayshire.

At some stage the family moved to Cullen, Banffshire. Their children were:

Isobel 1837
John 1839
Barbara 1842
Robert 1844
Ann 1847
Mary 1849
Jane Mason 1853

They were all born at Cullen.  The youngest William was born in 1857 at Shorehead, Portsoy.
Robert died aged 78 in 1886 at Low Street Portsoy.  Jane died in 1901 aged 80 at Church Street, Portsoy.


Regards
Johan

Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Sunday 03 January 10 13:31 GMT (UK)
Hello Ian

I seemed to be running out of space with my reply.

Regarding Grace Robertson marrying William Munro.  My ancestor Francis George Munro married Isabella Robertson on 7/12/1888. Isabella lived at 12 Justice Lane, Aberdeen and Francis lived at Albion Street.  I haven't looked into whether Isabella and Grace are related yet.  Isabella's father was George who was born about 1838 in Ayrshire.

Regards
Johan
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 03 January 10 16:21 GMT (UK)
I can't easily see Francis' birth on IGI, but these are some of the other children. IGI tails off for Scotland around 1874ish:

1. MARY ANNE MUNRO Birth: 28 AUG 1869 Fordyce, Banff
2. ROBERT MUNRO Birth: 20 SEP 1871 Fordyce, Banff
3. WILLIAM COOPER MUNRO Birth: 28 SEP 1873 Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen

Monica  :)
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Sunday 03 January 10 17:56 GMT (UK)
Hello Monica

Thanks for your reply. I have just checked the census and  Francis was born approx 1868 and living in Portsoy with his mother and sister Mary Ann.  Robert is on another census and is away at sea. His surname is spelt Monro on the 1871 census.
Regards
Johan
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Alberta exile on Sunday 03 January 10 17:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Johan
Thanks for all that information
With regards to Isabella Robertson, Grace did have a sister Isabella she was born around 1858 which would make her around 30 at the time of her wedding.
Justice lane does not ring any bells as my Robertsons were mainly in the Gallowgate, McKays Court.
Isabella has to be one of the most popular girls names in my group of Robertsons[It's my Mums name too]
Your Isabella could easily be a cousin because Graces' father James had two brothers John b. 1826  and William b. 1823 and the Robertsons did like their Isabellas.
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 03 January 10 19:07 GMT (UK)
This looks like Francis' birth entry, probably born just before parents married, from IGI:

FRANCIS GEORGE MUNRO WILSON Birth:10 NOV 1867 Fordyce, Banff
Parents: BARBARA WILSON

Monica
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Monday 04 January 10 14:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks Monica. I have looked for a few years for his birth entry.  I didn't think to look under his mother's name. Francis and his wife Isabella Robertson also had a son before they got married.  His name was also Francis George.  Are you related to the Munro's at all.
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 04 January 10 15:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Johan

No, I'm not related to your Munro's, just helping out with some searches  :)

Monica
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Monday 04 January 10 18:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much Monica, your help was greatly appreciated.  Hope you have a very Happy New Year.
Best Wishes
Johan
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 04 January 10 18:56 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year to you Johan - hope you make lots of headway with your research  :)

Monica
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Windsor87 on Friday 02 April 10 15:10 BST (UK)
I've just noticed this post.

If your Robert's parents were Robert Munro (c.1808-1886) and Jane Grant (1821-1901). Robert was a sawyer. Robert and Jane are my 4xgreat grandparents and I descend from them through their daughter Isabella Munro (1837-1924).

I don't really have anything on your line, but I have all the census details for Robert and Jane if you are interested?

regards
Windsor87
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Saturday 03 April 10 11:03 BST (UK)
Thank you  very much for your reply.  My Robert's parents were Robert and Jane Grant. Thanks for your offer of census information but I do have a bit of information on them.

Robert and Jane had at least 8 children.  Robert had previously been married to Catherine Thompson in about 1826 and they had 2 daughters Janet born in 1827 and Margaret born in 1832. His father was William Munro a Crofter at Grange near Deskford and his Mother was  Isobel Addison. Although on their wedding entry in gives William's parish as Keith.  Robert died at 5 Low Street, Portsoy and Jane died at 9 Church Street, Portsoy.  Robert the younger married Barbara Wilson in Aberdeen on 3/2/1868.  Her parents were George Wilson and Helen Watson.  Robert and Barbara in the early years of their marriage seem to have moved between Aberdeen and Banffshire. They eventually settled in Aberdeen. They had 9 children.   Did your Isabella stay in Banffshire or did she also settle in Aberdeen.

Regards
Johan

Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Alberta exile on Saturday 03 April 10 19:58 BST (UK)

Johan and Windsor
Doesn't it look like the Robert Munro and Jane Grant are the same grandparents?
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Windsor87 on Saturday 03 April 10 20:51 BST (UK)
Hello Johan,

I hadn't noticed that Robert was married twice - I only knew about his marriage to Jane so thats new to me.

It seems that Isabella, their daughter, moved to Aberdeen after her husbands death. She married John Christie (1835-79) in 1862. He died at Tullynessle, Aberdeenshire.
I found Isabella and her family on the 1881 Census:

78 Shiprow, St. Nicholas.
Isabella  Christie, Head, W, 48, washerwoman, b. Cullen, Elgin. (?)
James Christie, Son, Unm, 16, Stone Cutter, b. Inverurie.
Isabella Christie, Dau., Unm, 13, Servant, b. Inverurie.
Charles Christie, Son, 7, Scholar, b. Inverurie.
Anne Christie, Dau., 3,                  ,  b. Keigh, Aberdeen.

Isabella died in Aberdeen in 1924.
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: icini on Wednesday 14 April 10 23:30 BST (UK)
Hello: I am researching my son-in-laws Munros. the last one I have are
Hary Munro  born circa 1776 Tomintoul, Banff, married Janet Grant September 18, 1799, Kirkmichael, Banff. Am following son James ( 1800-1877). I am interested in your data because of the Munro/Grant combination.  Do you know of any connection between yours and mine?  Thanks.  Donna
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: Johan on Sunday 06 June 10 14:24 BST (UK)
Hello Donna

Apologies for not replying to you earlier.  Unfortunately I do not know if there is a link between my Munro/Grants and yours.   The earliest of my Munro's that I have been able to trace is William Munro who was born c1765. Munro was spelt  Monro on his marriage entry which is dated February 1785. He gave his parish of birth as Keith in Banffshire. His wife was Isobel Addison and the place of marriage was Grange, which is near Deskford in Banffshire.  His son Roberts wife Jane Grant who was born c1819 gave various places for her place of birth, including Grantown on Spey.  Her father's name was John. 

I am sorry that I cannot be of more help to you.

Regards
Johan
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: icini on Monday 19 July 10 21:11 BST (UK)
hello; I am interested in Munros and Grants. So far I have gone back to Hary Munro and Janet Grant, both from Tomintoul, Banff, who married in 1799. I can proceed to present day through their son James ( 1800- 1877, Kirkmicheal Banff), . James married a Margaret  Clark(1808-1900)October 13, 1831, Crathie, Bramar. their son Charles 1847-1917, married Mary Ann Driscoll and went to Toronto Canada.
I have more info on siblings, the Clarks, and others. Anyone related?? donna
Title: Re: A seaman Munro aboard the Alexandra
Post by: icini on Monday 19 July 10 21:12 BST (UK)
OOOops-- never mind I forgot I received a reply!!