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:) Does anyone have Fred Ayres the rocking horse carver on the their life line? Trying to find where he lived in 1850,s.?
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a few sites on the web have him as born c1864 ( died c1940 ? )
Frederick Henry Ayres.
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I have a Fred Ayres in my mother's tree, slightly (perhaps too?) early as his children were born in the late 1860s onwards. The location is the Cambridge area, probably Bottisham. Regarding a death for Fred in the 1940s, if my Fred is the rocking horse guy it would not be impossible as the Ayres line seem to be very long lived with many exceeding 90 at death.
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Manufacturing of the Rocking Horses was in London
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Though some of my Ayres's did live in London, Fred seems to have stayed in the Cambridge area, so that would rule him out.
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very elusive on the census :(
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I think "1864-1940" are the dates of the business.
Fred H. Ayres (probably who married Elizabeth Bacon in Islington in 1866) is in Islington in 1871 as "croquet manufacturer" and in 1881 as "Turner (artz)".
He was not solely a manufacturer of rocking horses but also of toys and games; in 1888 he was taken to court for selling a game called "Annex" by the patent holder of "Reversi" with the claim that the game and box design were too similar (they decided in his favour).
In 1877 he writes a letter to the Times about a game called "Go Bang" - there was a supposed case of poisoning linked to the coloured counters used and as the original publisher of said game he wanted to make it clear that there were no poisonous materials used in the game as supplied by him.
www.historicaldirectories.org shows him in various listings, as a cabinet maker (1882), lawn tennis manufacturer (1891), chess, draft, and cribbage board maker (1895 and 1899). After his death the company was continued under the name "F. H. Ayres".
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HI
according to the 1851 census he was at home with his parents in Amwell Clerkenwell.
Wendy
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ah, that would explain it - saw the dates in a couple of headlined sites, but only clicked on this one.
http://www.therockinghorseman.co.uk/history-of-the-rocking-horse
looking around today, Ebay has some detail:
FREDERICK HENRY AYRES WAS SITUATED AT 111 ALDERSGATE STREET, LONDON
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How far back has his line been followed please?
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Thanks to everyone responding to news of Fred Ayres ..as my Ayres alll come from Isleworth area I do not think my Fred is the ONE..I was just hopeful! But will plod on regardless.Cheers Stel. :'(
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Can anyone tell me the name of Fred Ayres father and grandfather please?
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To answer my own question of 8th December in the light of the most recent posting:"Not very far back."
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Hi
Frederick Henry Ayres was my Great Great Grandfather. This is what I know
1841 - not listed, but family were residing in Clerkenwell.
1851 - residing in Clerkenwell - Turner
1861 - residing in Clerkenwell - Turner
1871 - residing in Clerkenwell - Croquet manufacturer
1881 - residing in Clerkenwell - Turner
1891 - residing in Hove, Sussex - Manufacturer of games
1906 - died London
married to Elizabeth
Father - Thomas b, 1797, Frome
Frederick's son Rupert was my Great Grandfather; his son Kenneth was my Grandfather.
Hope this helps
Philippa
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Certainly takes things back a couple of generations and counties Phillippa.