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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cumberland => Topic started by: emmsthheight on Thursday 03 December 09 22:12 GMT (UK)
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Hi :)
Linked to my other post, I'm just thinking, I know there was a prison camp at Grizedale Forrest, of "The One Who Got Away", (book and film), fame.
Also the one mentioned above at Moota.
I think there were some men based near Carlisle Cummersdale but I'm not sure of the details.
Soes anyone know of any more centres or how many there were?
Best wishes
Emms
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emms,
There was one at Distington for about 20 POWs, it was near the station.
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Hi Jeff
:)
Thank you, I've not heard about that one.
I'm trying to remember what was there. Was there a hall or something?
Best wishes
Emms
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Hello all, I have a rellie who was described as a "sergeant instructor" in 1941 where a son was born....this was in Carlisle and he was in the Air Force - not sure if he was involved with any POW camp, but his entire family moved with him to Carlisle from Newcastle-on-Tyne...older rellies told me that the entire family was evacuated during ww2....Pat
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I wonder if he was at 14MU?
Certainly, loads of people were evacuated from Tyneside and other places to the the Cumberland and the lakes including a good few parishes around the area. There are odd entries I've seen in Parish registers and school records.
Emms :)
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Hello emms, sorry, all I know is the birth cert in 1941 states the child was born at a convalescent home in "...sland, Waterhead." I cannot decipher the first three letters.....Pat
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Waterhead is one of the districts of Lanercost, just past Carlisle and on the way to Newcastle. Hadrian's wall runs close by the area. I went there for a school trip many years ago. We visited Lanercost Priory, which at the time seemed to me to be just a pile of rubble, and not very interesting. Then again I wasn't very impressed with Hadrian's wall either :)
I wonder if there was an air base anywhere near Carlisle Airport, which isn't far from there.
Rosemary
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_Airport
I hope it's okay to post this link.
It appears that Kingstown was originally RAF Kingstown. Your rellie was probably based there.
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Hi :)
Sorry I put this link on evacuation from the North East to this area on another list, but I meant to give it you - from Genuki.
:-[ ::) ::)
Emms :)
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Evacuation/ (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Evacuation/)
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Hello all, thanks to your suggestions, it appears his birthplace was Gilsland, Waterhead in the subdistrict of Brampton...Of course, that doesn't mean his Father was stationed at that exact place. :-\ Those were tough times for many families and sadly, after returning to Newcastle-on-Tyne, that child died by drowning as a teen-ager....best wishes to all for a happy holiday season. Pat
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If he was at Gilsland, then he could have been associated with Spadeadam which was used to test Blue Streak (Britains last independant rocket)in the 50's and there were rumours of a german bomber shot down there during the war but whether it was an operating airfield during the war I don't know.
bob
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Hello Bob, It seems very probable since he WAS in the RAF! Thanks for the extra input. Happy holidays! Pat
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Wartime Camps
Prisoner of War Camps: Throughout the country fifteen hundred camps were built under a Government move to accommodate Italian and German prisoners of war. During the war years there were over four hundred thousand prisoners in Britain. Because Eden was so remote it was perfect to house prisoners of war and a number of camps were located in the area.
In the early 1940s there was an Italian prisoner of war camp, known as Camp 76, at Merrythought on the A6 just north of Plumpton. (The site is now owned by D.E.F.R.A. and is a Veterinary Investigation Centre). Shap Wells Camp: There was a camp for German Army officers at the Shap Wells Hotel. (for more details see the section on the U-Boat Hotel)
Displaced Persons Camps: At the end of the war the former Army camp of brick-built and Nissen-type huts in Lowther Park was converted to accommodate 600 refugees from Poland. They had their own school, church, community centre and football club. Many of the refugees later integrated into the local community. Greystoke Castle, which at the outbreak of the war had been taken over by the Army for tank driver training, was later used to house about 2000 Polish people.
Copyright Eden Council
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Hi! I have 2 photos of the "Church" which was created at the POW Camp at Moota, by the German POW's, and was ornately painted with biblical characters by a German prisoner. I understand he painted his own likeness into that of Christ on the Cross. I understand too, that around the alter written in German were the words "All men are Brothers". I knew a local man Willy Ulrick who was also in the camp , but stayed here after the war. He was a well known painter in the area, and remembered the church well and said how very colourful and beautiful it was. All the figures were life-size, and the beams of the old Barrack were painted to look as if they were actually carved , a kind of trompe l'oeil . (A trick of the eye) It was demolished after the war, which was sacrilidge in my opinion.
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Something about the Moota camp here http://www.cockermouth.org.uk/history/mootachapel.htm
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Very interesting. My photos show the whole of the interior and are really good ones too. It's good to see some of the panels really close up like that. Thank you for posting that link.
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Hi
Thank you all for the replies.
What a shame about the chapel.
Emms