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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Gortinanima on Thursday 03 December 09 13:18 GMT (UK)
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I am interested in the tracing the antecedents of
Robert Hemphill who married Ellen Eaton in Killaig
Presbyterian Church 24 July 1902.
I found the couple in 1911 census 10 Brook Steet,
Coleraine. Robert Hemphill was born in county Antrim.
[One son was called Andrew Todd Hemphill so I suspect a Todd
connection somewhere]
Robert Hemphill's wife, Ellen Eaton was the daughter of Robert John Eaton and Mary Jane McCallister who were also married in Killaig Presbyterian church 11 January 1866 [I found several children in the IGI]. In 1911 there family was living in 17 Ardvarness, Drumcroon [not sure where this is?]
If memory serves me correctly Killaig Presbyterian is in
Aghadowey parish?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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How much information do you want? Hemphills or Eastons? will be back later and check my notes if I know exactly what you're looking for.
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Hi,
This may be what you are looking for
13 Aug 1867 William John Hemphill married Mary Jane Todd in Dunluce Presbyterian Church, Coleraine District.
I can find the following children, all born in Bushmills subdistrict except the last one who was born in Ballyclough, which may also be Bushmills subdistrict.
Martha 26 Jul 1869
Thomas 11 Jan 1871
William John 18 Sept 1872
William 23 Apr 1874
Mary 2 Nov 1879.
There may well be other children which I have not been able to find
Regards
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Have just checked and Ballyclough is in the parish of Aghadowey.
Regards
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William James Hemphill and Mary Jane Todd had at least 15 children but not sure exactly what's needed so will wait to hear from Gortinanima.
There is a Ballyclough in Aghadowey Parish but the Hemphills were in the one near Bushmills.
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Thanks Aghadowey, Have just found that on Griffiths, spelling Ballyclogh. I notice that there is a Thomas Hemphill there who, according to Ancestry Ireland, may be the father of William John.
Regards
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Wow - that was quick!
At the moment I am most interested in the Eaton and
McCallister families.
Thanks
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Here's a start on Eaton's before tea-
Christopher Eaton, Ballywilliam, m. Hannah Huston. Children: Margaret (c1840), Gabriel (c1841), Eliza Jane (c1842), Robert John, child, William (c1851).
Their son-
Robert John Eaton (c1844-1911), labourer, m. Mary Jane McAlister (c1845-1921). Children: Robert McAlister (c1866), Robert John, Margaret Jane (1870), Annabella (1873), Ellen/Helen, Martha (1878), Martha Jane (1881), Sarah (1884), Mary Letitia (c1890).
Bapt. June 1844 Crossgar Presbyterian Church. 1866 Kiltinney, 1876-93 Ardverness.
Daughter-
Ellen/Helen Eaton (1876) m. Robert Hemphill. She bapt. 27 July 1876 Killaig Presbyterian Church. 1904 Ardverness, 1906 Coleraine.
1. Mary Jane Hemphill, bapt. 12 Jan.1904 Killaig Presbyterian Church.
2. Robert Hemphill, bapt. 15 May 1906 Killaig Presbyterian Church.
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First class Aghadowey,
I note a Robert McAllister Eaton and a Robert John Eaton both sons of Robert Eaton & Mary Jane
McAllister. I assume then that one died young?
Many thanks for you help!
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First Robert must have died young.
Robert McAlister Eaton bapt. 8 July 1866 Killaig Presbyterian Church.
Robert John McAlister Eaton (d.1888) bapt.27 July 1876 Killaig Presbyterian Church (along with sisters Margaret Jane, Annabella and Helen.)
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Thanks Aghadowey,
I noted the marriage of Christopher Eaton & Hannah Huston on 29 November 1838 in 2nd Dunboe Presbyterian Church.
Probably doesn't give parents names?
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Early Presbyterian marriages rarely give anything other than date and names of bride and groom (occasionally witnesses) but I haven't looked at 2nd Dunboe records for Eatons.
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Just noticed that Rev TH Mullin in his book Families of Ballyrashane has pedigree of Eatons of Articrunnagh [page 81]
He has Robert John Eaton as a son of Thomas Eaton of Arverness, Macosquin: Robert John Eaton married and had issue:
A. A son died
B. Maggie, unmarried
C. Ellen, married Robert Hemphill, uncle of Rev WJ Hemphill
D. Annabella [Mrs White]
E. Sarah [Canada]
F. Mary Letitia [Canada]
Mullin's tree shows that Robert John Eaton had a brother Richard married 1887 Sarah Johnston, dau of Wm and another brother James Eaton of Ballysally.
I know there are mistakes in Mullin's pedigrees - should the
Thomas mentioned as the primogenitor be Christopher or is Mullin's pedigree mixed up?
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Crossgar Presbyterian Church baptisms for children of Christopher Eaton and Hannah Huston-
24 Dec.1840 Margaret
26 Jan.1842 Gabriel
28 Dec.1842 Eliza Jane, B.William [Ballywilliam]
June 1844 Robert John
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Margaret Jane Eaton (20 Apr.1870-1921)- probably Maggie.
Annabella Eaton (28 Apr.1873-1949) m. James White & had: John Fulton (1894), Mary Connelly (1897), Kathleen Annan Fulton (1899), William James (1902), Martha Connelly (1905), Robert Thomas (1908), Samuel McAlister, Edmund Alexander (1913).
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From Families of Ballyrashane [my notes in brackets]-
Thomas Eaton [blacksmith] of Ardverness.
[children: Margaret, Annabella, Mary?, William]
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Thanks Aghadowey, your help is very much appreciated.
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This is a comment (belated, admittedly) to a post by Gortinanima on 04 Dec 2009......
Regarding Thomas Eaton ~ he is listed as the father of Robert John Eaton on RJE's marriage registration certificate.
Regarding Robert John Eaton's issue ~ Sarah did NOT emigrate to Canada, but rather to the U.S. (Philadelphia) ~ she was my grandmother. Her sisters, Mary Letitia and Martha (not included by Mullin) also emigrated to Philadelphia ~ they were my great aunts.
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Dr. Mullin gathered lots of family information from the local families and it sounds as though someone told him the daughters went to Canada rather than the U.S.
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Thank you for the very quick response, Aghadowey ~ very encouraging. What you said about how Mullin gathered information makes perfect sense. Interestingly, on Robert John Eaton's Marriage Registration, Thomas' name was spelled "Eatton." If Mullin has anything to say about Thomas, I'd be very interested as I've hit the proverbial brick wall where he is concerned.
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Dr. Mullin deposited his notes from research of local families in what was the Irish Room, Coleraine (with certain conditions). In addition to talking with local people (some of them very old when he started his Ballyrashane notes many, many years ago) he did extensive research in places like the Registry of Deeds in Dublin. The Irish Room has been closed for a number of years and its contents were supposed to be moved to Coleraine Library in the town. However, when I enquired about a few items after the move they were 'in storage' or 'unknown.' Certainly only a small portion of the Irish Room collection is on the shelves in the Library.
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Thanks very, very much for that information ~ I am very appreciative of it. Would you think the Mullin papers would be at the main library or in one of the branches? When I looked at the Coleraine Library online just now (https://www.librariesni.org.uk/Libraries/Pages/Coleraine-Library.aspx) it looked as if there were a number of branches and it made me wonder if Dr. Mullin's papers would perhaps have been housed closer to the subject of his research. In any case, thanks once again for your help. Little Pew :)
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Coleraine is the main library in this area and it is in the centre of his research on Ballyrashane, Aghadowey, etc. If they don't have Dr. Mullin's notes then 1) they would have been returned to his family (or whatever provision he made) or possibly sent to Area Library in Ballymena which has a good history collection. Even though Irish Room collection officially 'went to Coleraine' I believe some of it may have migrated to Ballymena.
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The notes of Rev TH Mullin are in Coleraine Library -- I got to see some of them there a few years ago. I think they are stored upstairs and if memory serves me well they may be in alphabetical order by surname so they then bring files down to you in the main Library. The notes are superb for example I got rentals of the McCausland estate near Limavady photocopied from Book 5 pages 32-37
McCausland estate material included -
1794 survey
1831 rental
1856 survey
He also puts in marginal notes for example in the 1856 survey of Carran townland (he also drew a map with numbered farms for part of the townland) he mentions farms numbered 44-56 held by James Mullen, Patrick Mullen and Roger O'Kane - 'I often heard my father talk of Paddy Mullen & Roger Kane when we were going down the far road in the trap. I think he even pointed out the holdings or at any rate the laneway on the right as you go down to Limavady'.
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Thanks, Aghadowey~
I see an email address for Ballymena so I' ll try to contact them and see what they know. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks so, so much for your help. :)
Just now a message popped up from Gortinanima re: Mullin papers at Coleraine Library. I already sent a message to Ballymena Library so I'll see what they say and I'll likely send a message to Coleraine now, too.
Thanks to both of you for your information and swift replies ~ they are very much appreciated! :)
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I am looking for information on Rose Eaton. She was shown as the informant on the 1870 Irish birth registration of Margaret Eaton who was the daughter of Robert John Eaton and Mary Jane McAllister Eaton of Ardverness, Macosquin). In addition, Rose is shown as the informant on the 1879 Irish death registrations for Thomas Eaton (of Ardverness) and, on the same day, the death registration for Christie Eaton (also of Ardverness). I can't find Rose's connection to the family and assume she likely married an Eaton. She shows up on the 1901 Irish Census as "mother-in-law" in the household of James Gault and Annabella Eaton Gault (age 40). A 42 year old male named William Eaton is also listed in the household as a brother-in-law and "idiot,"(awful term!! :'() who, I assume, is Rose's son since Rose's age is given as 75. I was not able to find a birth registration for William or Annabella so I wasn't able to find out who their father might have been. Any suggestions on how to track her down would be GREATLY appreciated. Many thanks!
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Rose Eaton's death- informant was daughter Annabella-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1901/05730/4617414.pdf
Anna Bella's marriage lists father as Thomas Eaton-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10559/5846608.pdf
Death of William Eaton-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05556/4559414.pdf
Added- see also reply #13
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Thanks, once again, Aghadowey. I appreciate what you passed along. I've been on the irishgenealogy.ie website many, many times and wanted to see why I hadn't turned up what you had so I went to the site just now. I typed in Anna Bella's name (just as it was on the marriage record) and the year of the marriage record (1894) and got a "No Results Found" message. Here was the associated link:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-perform-search.jsp?namefm=Anna+Bella&namel=Eaton&location=&yyfrom=1894&yyto=1894&type=M&submit=Search
You must have a special touch at that site. :) At any rate, thank you for your help and the information you were able to access. As far as William is concerned, I was basing his year of birth on the age (42) I saw on the 1901 Census - obviously the census age figure was wrong, if William died 5 years later at the age of 40. ???
I need to digest what you sent and, also, figure out the Christopher / Thomas situation on the family tree. I may need to post again. I am still hoping to get some information from Mullin's notes at the Coleraine library and have been in touch with the staff there. I've been told that, because of their Covid limitations, some items are not presently available to the public . . . but I'll keep trying. Many, many, many thanks! :) :) :)
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Do the same search again just leave out Bella, simply Anna
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MAGIC! Thanks for your insight, Sinann. I thought I had tried every version of Annabella but "Anna" is one I missed. Every day is a learning adventure in genealogy! Thanks VERY much! :)