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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: wendy1 on Wednesday 02 December 09 08:26 GMT (UK)
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Hello to everyone and Merry Christmas :)
Like other people I'm on the search for lost family ancestors.
I have been researching in the name of MARTIN Thomas married to Lydia SKIPPON 13Th October 1835 at Beccles Suffolk England .I have attached their wedding certificate if this can help out .
I have nothing else to go on because I never knew anything of my ggg grandfather until now there is information in the Australian section under Clara Emma Catherine MARTIN.Cando was very helpfull to my history gathering valuable information to my ancestors here in Australia. Now it time to head over to where our genetic genes started and hopefully learn all about what makes us who we are today in December 2009. can any one help me to find my descendant's?
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Hers is the marraige cert of Arthur MARTIN and Catherine Martin Nee BARRY with boths parents on it. Thomas MARTIN Lydia SKIPPON are the parents Im trying to find the line for in Suffolk and also the parents of Lydia.1841Census HO107/1041/16: Has given the children of thomas and Lydia thats how we came to Arthur who sailed on October 1852 aged 17 on the Delta headed for Australia leaving behind family siblings and perants,
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Hi Wendy1
Looks as if Thomas Martin was considerably older than Lydia.
1851 Census - West Rudham, Norfolk
Thomas Martin 70 Curate of West Rudham b. Colkirk, Norfolk
Lydia Martin 48 b. Fakenham, Norfolk
Lydia Martin dau. 21 ditto
Arthur Martin son 15 b. Saxmundham, Suffolk
Henry Martin son 13 ditto
Horace Martin son 12 ditto
Matilda Melton serv. 15 House servant
ref. HO107 - 1827 - 582 - 11
Don't know if the dau. Lydia bc.1830 was Thomas' from a previous marriage or, as her birthplace is same as mothers, whether she was just Lydia's daughter.
Arthur's baptism is on the IGI as 26/7/1836 but just says Suffolk - however, from the census above this would appear to be at Saxmundham.
I note on 1841 Census that Lydia is alone with the children. Thomas seems to be back in his birthplace - Colkirk - where he is shown as Clerk (ref.HO107 - 778 - 5 - 12 - 19).
FreeReg shows:
Thomas bp.22/12/1775 Colkirk (d.1775-1780)
Frances bp.10/11/1777 Colkirk
*Thomas bp.31/3/1780 Colkirk
Susanna bp.19/5/1782 - children of Thomas Martin and Catherine Jones.
They married 3/10/1770 Fakenham, Norfolk.
Lydia Skippen bp.2/8/1803 Baptist, Fakenham, Norfolk dau. of Thomas and Sarah.
Annette
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Hi and welcome Annette7
the spelling for Lydia last name is SKIPPON, you do have infomatiom that works with CandoS,
Looking at the Lydia persons it looks to me that 1st Lydia SKIPPON married Thomas MARTIN seperated or mybe work reasons reunited, he was older,2ND Lydia MARTIN daughter of thomas and mother Lydia.
:D confusion sets in now over the thomas names as well
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This is from the Suffolk Marriage Index.
Thomas Martin, widower of the parish
Lydia Skippon, single and from Downham Market
13th October, 1835 = Beccles
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welcome suffolk sue :)
and ty for your information.
It looks to me that is the reason Thomas was older?
Lydia must of been in his middle ages leaves me to wonder who Thomas was married to before Lydia I need to reed back in the notes to see if it is there in the dates if thay line up date.
Thank you for your help it is very much appreciated .
cheers Wendy1
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Wendy,
In the Ipswich Journal, dated Saturday, September 27, 1862, there is a BMD announcement for the death of Lydia Martin.
On the 19th inst, at Kirkley, Lydia, only daughter of the late Rev. Thomas Martin, formerly of West Rudham, Norfolk aged 32 years.
Tom
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Wendy
It would appear that Thomas Martin's father was also a member of the clergy:
Ipswich Journal: Saturday, March 15, 1806
Yesterday, s’ennight, died after a long affliction, Mrs. Martin, wife of the Rev. Thomas Martin of Colkirk, near Fakenham, Norfolk.
Saturday, January 30, 1836:
16th inst, at the parsonage House, Botley, after a union of 40 years and in her 63rd year of her age, Elizabeth, wife of Richard Barker MA, rector and daughter of the late Rev. Thomas Martin, rector of Colkirk cum Stibbard, in the county of Norfolk.
Thomas's father appears to have died between 1806 and 1836-so far can't find his death.
Tom
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Welcome Tom to my family history thank you so much for your efforts in trying to locate my ancesters in england, your help is very much appriciated here in Australia my family gives thanks.
WOW through you Inow know why I feel so close to our Lord Jesus Christ I would love to here more if any one is able to find anything more on this history.
Tom you have added valuable infomation right on Christmas to. :P
Cheers and Merry Christmas. Photos of the church or country side The rev Thomas Martin is from would be wonderful
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Wendy
Try this one for Thomas Martin's father:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pNs8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA71&dq=Thomas+Martin+colkirk&lr=#v=onepage&q=Thomas%20Martin%20colkirk&f=false
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PHtbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA29&dq=Reverend+Thomas+Martin+colkirk&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8rSvYcsjB-MC&pg=PA394&dq=Reverend+Thomas+Martin+colkirk&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false
For death of Rev. Thomas Martin of West Rudham:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0zw3AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA736&dq=Reverend+Thomas+Martin+West+Rudham&lr=#v=onepage&q=&f=false
I also had a look for Thomas Martin in Saxmundham for 1835, so far no connection with the area then, but good for information on that place and surrounding area.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iuUNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA773&dq=Thomas+Martin+saxmundham+1835&lr=#v=onepage&q=Thomas%20Martin%20saxmundham%201835&f=false
Tom
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hi tom thank you your hard work finding thing for me I think I need to read theses in time it seems over welming all in one session I would love to find out more if you find the time to Ill post again soon thank you once again for your search
wendy
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Hi TOMPIPER,
I have read the interesting articals you have found on my grandfather passed thomas martin the 1st and 2nd I'm very pleased with the news of both men how wonderful to think that thay both were clergymen that makes my heart feel full. I wrote it down on paper because I couldnt copy or paste the articals if there is a better way can you let me know how to do that.
I can hardly wait to see what you find next if you wont to of cause I thank you for what you have already found this is of great value to our family history
warm regards
wendy1
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Wendy
No I don't think you can copy and paste those articles. But you too can try to look for the same sort of info, just go to Google Books and put in a relation's names.
Tom
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HI tom and thanks I hand wrote the extracts for safe keeping in reference what is it like in norfolk I wnder suffolk I havnt really identified with this part of the world sounds pritty though the discription of the church were my gg granfather lays in a tomb in the St Peters church If I come apon a mircial I will come to see just where my ansesters lay sleeping I wonder what else we can research even further back Im not sure Ill look for a photo of St Peters in google today make it all the more real for me to see things
your help is valuable I thank you very much for your time and to others who might like to come on the MARTIN journey
cheers
wendy1
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:) I am back I hope that everyone had a great christmas and new year .
hol848 has been gathering more info on my ansesters MARTIN year around late 1600s into the 1700s 1770