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Can anyone help?
We are trying to research the families of Bright and Bentley from the St. Ives, Huntingdonshire and surrounding areas.
We have an Olive Berenice Bentley Bright b. 1885, Needingsworth, Huntingdonshire. Her mother was Elizabeth Bentley b. abt 1858 and father was William Bright b. abt 1845, both in the surrounding area of St. Ives.
If you have any information about any of these people or a possible connection, then I'd like to hear from you.
Thanks.
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1891 census
Main St, Somersham
William Bright head marr 45 coal agent b St Ives
Lissie Bright wife 33 b Woodhurst Hunts
Evangeline B Bright dau 8 scholar b Needingworth
Bertrande B B Bright son scholar b Needingworth
Olive B B Bright dau 5 scholar b Needingworth
Bernard B B Bright son 2 b Needingworth
Marguerita N? B B Bright dau 1
In 1881 which you will probably have checked on www.familysearch.org there is William Bright 35 widower coal dealer born St Ives with children William 13, Elizabeth 10, Frances 8, Betsy 6, and Charles 4.
1871 census
Holywell cum Needingworth
William Bright head marr 27 farmer 25 acres b St Ives
Rebecca Bright wife 28 b Barley, Herts
William Bright son 3 b Needingworth
Phoebe Bright dau 10m b Needingworth
per FreeBMD
Marriage Sept quarter 1881 St Ives registration district William Bright and Mary Elizabeth Bentley
Death Sept 1/4 1878 Rebecca Bright
Birth Sept 1/4 1870 Elizabeth Phoebe Bright
Marriage Sept 1/4 1867 William Bright and Rebecca Prime
Do you have the marriage cert of William and Elizabeth Bentley - was he described as widower? It should also show his father's name, which may be:
1861 census Holywell cum Needingworth
High St
Frank Bright head marr 54 farmer 30 acres b Needingworth
Elizabeth Bright wife 55 b Needingworth
Frances Bright dau unmarr 21 b Needingworth
John Bright son unm 19 b Needingworth
William Bright son unm 16 b Needingworth
1861 census RG9/977 Folio 110
Church St Woodhurst
George Bentley head marr 36 potato dealer b Oldhurst
Charlotte Bentley wife 36 b Oldhurst
Mary E Bentley dau 3 b Woodhurst
This family appear in 1871 and 1881 - Mary Eliz aged 13 in 1871 and Elizabeth aged 23 in 1881.
I also have the 1841 census but before looking at that you may want to verify the above, as the William Brights in 1861 and 1871 may be totally wrong.
Regards
David
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Thank you for your reply.
Since you replied to our post the first time, we have been able to research this family further and it appears that William Bright who is aged 45 in the 1891 census did marry before he married Lissie. So therefore the information seems to tally up.
It also seems that Lissie was also known as Elizabeth Mary or Mary Elizabeth Bentley, before she married William Bright.
If it would be possible could you look up these families that you mentioned in your last post, in the other census's that you may have.
Thank you.
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Apologies for the delay in responding - I moved to France on 9th April and must have totally missed your request for a follow up! I will be back to you!
But... since I've been here I've discovered a long lost ggg grandmother's marriage so I've finally found her maiden name - Bright, from Somersham! I waiting for a couple of look ups from Huntingdon Record Office as the parish register has not been filmed by the LDS or transcribed. We may have a connection.
Regards
David
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1871 RG10/1528 folio 19B
Lane, Old Hurst
George Bentley head marr 45 dealer born Old Hurst
Charlotte Bentley wife 45 b Old Hurst
Mary Eliz Bentley dau 13 scholar b Old Hurst
George E Bentley son 9 scholar b Woodhurst
Benjamin Bentley son 7 scholar b Woodhurst
Ellinor Bentley dau 3 b Old Hurst
the next entry was
High St, Old Hurst
Thomas Bentley head marr 35 labourer b Old Hurst
Sarah Jane Bentley wife 31 b Old Hurst
William Bentley son 5 b Old Hurst
John Bentley son 1 b Old Hurst
John Bentley boarder widower 78 pensioner b Old Hurst
In 1881
Cottage, Old Hurst
Charlotte Bentley head widow 55 b Old Hurst
Elizabeth Bentley dau unm 23 dressmaker b Woodhurst
George E Bentley son unm 19 dealer in pigs b Woodhurst
Benjamin Bentley son unm 17 ag lab b Woodhusrt
Ellen Bentley dau 13 scholar b Woodhurst
Julia Bentley dau 9 scholar b Old Hurst
Could you let me know what other Hunts look ups you are seeking, with the exception of 1851 which has been produced as a transcript by Hunts FHS but which I don't have.
Regards
David
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Hi,
Thanks for getting back to me, with this information.
If it would be possible could you please look up these Bentley Families, in the 1861 and the 1841 Census.
Also, could you please look up a Charlotte Leeden (Whom I believe is the Charlotte who married George Bentley) b. Old Hurst. If you could find her in the 1841 census, would like to know where and who she was residing with.
Thank you so much for all the information that you have sent me so far, and look forward to hearing from you again soon.
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This may come through piecemeal as I go through the censuses
1861
RG9/977 Folio 110
Woodhurst
George Bentley head marr 36 potatoe dealer b Oldhurst
Charlotte Bentley wife 36 b Oldhurst
Mary E Bentley dau 3 b Woodhurst
RG9/976 folio 18B
Old Hurst
William Bently head marr 52 ag lab b Old Hurst
Mary Bently wife 49 b Broughton Hunts
Thomas Bently son unm 25 ag lab b Old Hurst
William Bently son unm 21 ag lab b Old Hurst
Mary Bently dau unm 17 maid servant b Old Hurst
Ruth Bently dau 14 b Old Hurst
Folio 18
Old Hurst
Isaac Bently head marr 26 potatoe merchant b Old Hurst
Susan Bently wife 23 b Pidley Hunts
RG9/1023 Folio 30
6 Coldham lane, St Andrew the Less, Cambridge
John Bentley head marr 67 lab b Old Hurst Hunts
Sarah Bentley wife 59 b Old Hurst
High St Caxton Cambs
Edward Bentley head marr 36 ag lab b Old Hurst
Elizabeth Bentley wife 32 b Papworth St Everard Cambs
Edward Bentley son 16 ag lab b Buckden Hunts
Daughters Jane 15; Harriett 12; Avery 10; Elizabeth 8; Mary A 6; Fanny 3; Sarah 3 mths; all born Caxton
Hopefully 1841 will help sort out who belongs to who!
regards
David
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1841
HO107/448-09 folio 4
Edward Bentley 45 shoemaker
Mary Bentley 40
George Bentley 15
Hanah Bentley 13
Rebecker Bentley 8
Isaac Bentley 5
Benjamin Bentley 2
Next entry
William Bentley 30 ag lab
Mary Bentley 30
Francisann Bentley 7
Tom Bentley 5
William Bentley 1
Folio 5B
Joseph Bentley 35 ag lab
Joseph Bentley 9
Folio 6B
Edward Bentley 70 ag lab
Mary Bentley 70
All of them born in Hunts
Folio 6B
Sarah Leeding 50 born in Hunts
Charlotte Leeding 15 Not born in Hunts (the "N" is not very clear but it has no tail so I assume it is not a Y)
This was the only Charlotte of any age, male or female, in Old Hurst, and there were no other Leeden/Leedings. In 1861 there were only 26 Leedens in the index (which would not include Leedings and other variations) and 18 of those were born in Hunts and most of them in Somersham.
Shout if you need any follow ups as a result of the 1841 findings.
Still looking for John b c1793 who may have been your George's uncle, just to tidy up ends!
Regards
David
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1841
HO107/86/9 Folio 14A
Castle St, Cambridge St Giles
John Bentley 46 labourer
Sarah Bentley 40
Neither born in Cambs
1851
HO107/1760 Folio 851B
Pleasant Row, Cambridge St Giles
John Bently head marr 58 Greenwich pensioner b Oldhurst
Sarah Bently wife 48 b Oldhurst
(I can do Cambs 1851 but not Hunts)
I'll leave interpretation to you!
david
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Hi,
Thank you for all this information.
Do you know what became of George Bentley's siblings?
Did his sister Hannah marry a William Abbs? If so, would it be at all possible for you to look them up in the census' that you have.
Thank you.
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William Bright b approx 1844 married to Rebecca Prime b approx 1843 were my gggrandparents. My ggrandmother was their child Betsey who came to America at 16yrs old. I knew Rebecca died and William was a Widower for awhile. But I didnt know her name until now. After he married Lizzie what happened to the children he had with Rebecca. I know they were getting older but where is 14 yr old Charles? My GGrandmother fled to USA at 16 and didnt speak well of her father. The Census 1851 has Williams parents name, his siblings, and a father or grandfather to William Bright residing with them. William nearly named his children with Rebecca the same as his brother & sisters. I want to thank you both for Chatting about them because I never knew Williams wife's name (I had it narrowed down to two) and the name of his new wife (was curious). I'm very interested in the Census info for 1841 if David could still give this information for William Bright and maybe find something on Rebecca Prime. I will be forever grateful!!
I will provide the 1841 Census info for person: Cottingham who is asking info in the next posting (my computer keeps signing off and I want this to get posted).
Thank you all so much....
Lindajae
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1851 Census St Ives on fiche by Hunts FHS
Francis "Frank" Bright h m 43 ag lab born Needingworth
Elizabeth Bright w m 45 ag lab born Needingworth
Phoebe d u 19 dyers assistant born Needingworth
Ann d u 17 dyers assistant born Needingworth
Betsey d u 15 dyers asst born Needingworth
Frances d 13 Born St Ives
John s 11 Scholar born St Ives
*William s 6 Scholar born St Ives (this is our William)
Chas D s 3 born St Ives
James f (father of Frank) wr (widower) Late Farmer born: Needingworth
***CORRECTION: The census says "f" for father. James is the Grandfather b. 1754 97yrs old
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Enjoy!!
Lindajae
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1851 Census for St Ives on fiche by Hunts FHS
I forgot to put their location during this census:
CROWN YARD
This was at the top of their names that was emailed to me by a researcher.
I searched all over the web and couldnt find anything except a bar called "Crown Yard". Was that a street?
LindaJae
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One more thing:
Lissie Bright & William Bright are on the 1901 Census at: www.census.pro.gov.uk
You have to pay to see all the info but they show you the person (one at a time) if you search for them. She is listed as Lissie Bright. County: Huntingdon The civil parish: Somersham
He still has occupation as: Coal Agent. I only found two of their 5 children. I found Bernard & Olive (doing separate searches) and no Margarita (unless her name is Gladys Bright-middle name?). Point of interest: My GGrandmother Betsey daughter of William Bright & Rebecca (half sister to Lissie's kids) named her only daughter Olive. The same name as one of Lissie's daughters that was about 15 yrs when my Betsey left for America.
Hope I have given back a little piece of info you have given me!
Lindajae
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I'm sorry... Olive was 5 yr old when my GGrandmother Betsey Bright left for America. She must have been very close to her to name her daughter Olive also.
LindaJae
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Just got back from hols, hence the delay in replying. This thread is mushrooming!
So... LindaJae has confirmed the William Bright that I had found, was the son of Frank and Elizabeth. Heres Frank (Francis) and family in 1841 (minus William of course who wasn't born until c1845)
HO107/448-10 Folio 34B
Priory Yard St Ives
Francis Bright 35 ag lab
Elizabeth Bright 36
Mary Bright 17
Phoebe Bright 10
Ann Bright 7
Elizabeth Bright 6
Frances Bright (female) 3
John Bright 1
All born in Hunts
A yard was probably just an enclosed area behind/off/to the side of a street.
Rebecca Prime's birthplace was in Herts, for which I have just the 1851 census, and the result is interesting:
HO107/1707 folio 409A
High St Barley
Mary Prime wife marr 34 born Needingworth Hunts
John Prime son 16 ag lab b Barley
Rebecca Prime dau 7 scholar b Barley
Fanny Prime dau 6 scholar b Barley
Mary Ann Prime dau 2 b Barley
Susan Whitmore lodger unm 36 dressmaker b Barley
No sign of a husband, and the only other Primes in Barley were:
folio 413A
High St Barley
Mary Prime head widow 72 annuitant b Hadenham Cambs
Abram Prime son marr 33 annuitant b Barley
Susanna Prime dau 59 b Barley
In 1861 there is an Abram Prime 43 b Barley with wife Susan 65 b Barley living in Cambridge so we still don't know who Mary Prime's husband was in 1851 and whether or not he was alive and working elsewhere or whether she should have been described as a widow.
In 1861 Fanny Prime 16 b Barley was a nursemaid in St Ives.
Problem solved! Found them in 1861 enumerated as Pryme but indexed as Pryne.
RG9/980 folio 38B
The Lion and Lamb, High St, Holywell cum Needingworth
James Pryme head marr 50 farmer labourer and butcher b Barley
Mary Pryme wife 42 b Needingworth
Rebecca Pryme dau 16 dressmaker b Needingworth
Mary Ann Pryme dau 10 scholar b Needingworth
Stephen Butcher lodger unm 50 whitesmith b Needingworth
Living in the next house was
Fen Lane
Abram Pryme head marr 23 ag lab b Needingworth
Mary Pryme wife 26 b Needingworth
Hannah Pryme dau 10 scholar b Needingworth
William Pryme son 9mths b Needingworth
In 1871
RG10/1522 folio 7
High St, Holywell cum Needingworth
James Pryme head marr 62 annuitant b Barley
Mary Pryme wife 53 b Needingworth
Frederick Pryme grandson 5 scholar b Somersham Hunts
Stephen Butcher lodger unm 40 blacksmith b Needingworth
It's possible that the 72 year old Mary in Barley in 1851 might have been James Pryme's mother, and Abram 33 his brother.
OK, lunch! I'll check out George Bentley's siblings this afternoon.
Regards
David
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Isaac Bentley b c1835 - details of 1861 census on posting of 29 June.
Benjamin Bentley b c1839 - there is a death on FreeBMD in St Ives registration district in Sept 1855 which might be him. I can't see any marriages in Hunts and I can't find him in any census subsequent to 1855.
Rebecca Bentley - deaths on FreeBMD in St Ives reg district in Dec 1850 and Sept 1851 either of which might be her. I cant see a marriage which would fit.
Hannah Bentley - there is a marriage on FreeBMD in St Ives reg district in March quarter 1854 between William Abbs and Hannah Mary Bentley ref St Ives 3b 411. The 1861 has the following entry
Hatton Rd Barham, Longstanton
William Abbs head marr 29 ag lab Born Cambs All Saints
Hannah Mary Abbs wife 33 b Old Hurst
Margrett Abbs dau 7 b All Saints Cambs
Eliza All'? Abbs dau 4 b All Saints Cambs
Pricelda Ann Abbs dau 2 b All Saints Cambs
Let me know if you need any later censuses checked for Isaac or Hannah.
Regards
David
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Hi,
Thank you both, for replying to me. The information that you both have given me, will definitely help me fill some gaps about our Bright and Bentley side of the family.
We are still researching these surnames and therefore, we would love to hear from any one with information about them.
Thank you.
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David:
Thank you so much for all the Census info you posted on my GGrandfather William Bright and his wife Rebecca Prime family. You are awesome! You have given me a great gift. Thank you so much! I just found all this info posted in here today.
LindaJae
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Hi
I have a William Bright who Maried into my Britten family from the Huntingdon area.
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HI
I am really sorry about my last message I depressed the wrong key.
As I was saying
My William Bright was born c1840 in the Godmanchester area.
His Father's name was John Bright.
William married Mary Britten.
Mary was a sister of my Great Grand father Samuel Britten.who was born in the Cambridge area c 1840.
Eric :)
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In the Prime/Pryme Census (my family mentioned here on this page along with my Bright family). I noticed some of the Primes/Prymes were "anniutant's".
Does anyone know where I would look to find out where it was coming from, what it is, etc?
Lindajae
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The Census 1851 Re: Francis Bright
When researching the 1851 Census, they had me mixed up when they said James was "f" (father) of Francis and living with Francis. It stopped my search until I learned he is the Grandfather not father.
I just found a gold mine of research for William Bright's father, spouses, children, etc going back into the 1600's. Many branches. I never thought to search FRANK!!!!
I searched Frank Bright at www.familysearch.org and there he was and all his family way back.
So if you are looking for the rest of his family (even the Bentley's would be interested).
Go to www.familysearch.org and enter: Frank Bright and pick the one that is b. 1806 Needingworth Huntingdon and get ready for the huge amount of info!!
PS: Just for the info Francis "Frank" Brights father is: John Bright b. 1778
Lindajae
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Just bear in mind that this is a tree on Ancestral File put together by another researcher, and the entries are not extractions from parish registers. So these trees are only as reliable as the researcher and I know from bitter experience that they are not always accurate (in fact some are simply wrong!)
Ideally you need to use them as just a guide and check them against the parish register.
Definition Of Terms Used On Census Returns
Annuitant ~ The term annuitant could describe someone on an annual allowance as well as someone receiving annual income from an investment. Often however, it was also used for institutionalized pensioners.
Regards
David
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Thanks for the advice David,
I will use the found info as a guide and verify it as I go. Thanks for the tip and reminder. Hope it is accurate!
Lindajae
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It does look pretty well researched, and was done in Canada, not Utah, which is always encouraging!
David
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This message is for Bedfordshire Boy - David:
I know it's prob too late for this question but in your message #3 in this string you said:
But... since I've been here I've discovered a long lost ggg grandmother's marriage so I've finally found her maiden name - Bright, from Somersham! I waiting for a couple of look ups from Huntingdon Record Office as the parish register has not been filmed by the LDS or transcribed. We may have a connection.
Regards
David
Did you find or keep this information of a long lost ggg grandmother with the maiden name of Bright from Somersham?
Lindajae
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Hi Lindajae
Sure did. This is what I have:
I. William BRIGHT was born circa 1762. He married Susanna
ARCHDEACON on 2 May 1784 at Somersham, Hunts. He married Sarah WINGRAVE, daughter of Jonas WINGRAVE and Elizabeth ALPHERY, on 22 Oct 1787 at Somersham, Hunts.
A. John BRIGHT was born in Dec 1785 at Somersham, Hunts. He was buried on 26 Jan 1786 at Somersham, Hunts.
B. Elizabeth BRIGHT was christened on 22 Nov 1789 at Somersham, Hunts. She married Thomas Gilbert LANGSTON, son of John LANGSTON and Ann WINTER, on 12 May 1817 at Brampton, Hunts. She was buried on 31 Aug 1824 at Brampton, Hunts.
1. Charles Gilbert LANGSTON was born on 14 Mar 1819 at Brampton, Hunts. He married Mary BRANDES in Mar 1846 at Bermondsey. He married Mary Ann NEWNHAM in Mar 1855 at Shoreditch, Middlesex. He died before 1871.
2. Catherine Anne LANGSTON was christened on 17 Dec 1820 at Brampton, Hunts.
3. William LANGSTON was born on 27 Mar 1822 at Brampton, Hunts.
4. John LANGSTON was christened on 31 Aug 1823 at Brampton, Hunts. He was buried on 23 Nov 1826 at Brampton, Hunts.
C. Susanna BRIGHT was christened on 20 Mar 1791 at Somersham, Hunts.
D. Mary BRIGHT was christened on 27 Aug 1792 at Somersham, Hunts. She married John MERRILL, son of John MERRILL and Elizabeth CARTER, in 1816 at All Saints & St John, Huntingdon. She married John RICHARDSON on 30 Nov 1824 at Caxton. She was buried on 13 Sep 1868 at Caxton, Cambs.
E. Sarah BRIGHT was christened on 1 Feb 1795 at Somersham, Hunts. She married Robert LONGLAND in 1819 at Hemingford Abbots, Hunts.
1. Ann LONGLAND was born in 1821 at Caxton, Cambs.
2. James LONGLAND was born in 1822 at Godmanchester, Hunts. He married Elizabeth BASTERFIELD on 11 Apr 1841 at St Paul, Bedford.
3. Elizabeth LONGLAND was born in 1825 at Godmanchester, Hunts.
4. Charles LONGLAND was born in 1829 at Godmanchester, Hunts. He married Ann LIQUORISH in Sep 1850 at Northampton.
5. Henry LONGLAND was born in 1831 at Godmanchester, Hunts.
6. William LONGLAND was christened on 4 Feb 1832 at Godmanchester, Hunts.
7. Sarah LONGLAND was born in 1833 at Godmanchester, Hunts.
F. William BRIGHT was christened on 23 Sep 1798 at Somersham, Hunts. He married Elizabeth CORKETT on 10 Oct 1820 at Caxton, Cambs. He married Elizabeth COCKSELL in Dec 1852. He died in Jun 1875 at Bourn, Cambs
1. Charlotte BRIGHT was christened on 12 Aug 1821 at Caxton, Cambs.
2. David BRIGHT was christened on 11 Jan 1824 at Caxton, Cambs.
3. Amelia BRIGHT was christened on 5 Feb 1826 at Caxton, Cambs.
4. Mary Ann BRIGHT was christened on 5 May 1828 at Caxton, Cambs. She was buried on 12 Oct 1851 at Caxton, Cambs.
5. John BRIGHT was born in 1835 at Caxton, Cambs. He married Sarah BLOWS in Dec 1858 at Caxton reg district, Cambs. He died in Dec 1910 at Caxton reg district, Cambs.
G. Ann BRIGHT was christened on 28 Aug 1803 at Somersham, Hunts. Unmarried. She was buried on 30 Jul 1871 at Brampton, Hunts.
Unfortunately I've been unable to trace the Brights back any further
Regards
David
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David:
Thank you so much for your response. I am sorry to say the dates are not matching with my William Bright mentioned in this string. Nor are my Bright's from Caxton.
BUT... I'm keeping the info because some of the spouses last names look familiar. And maybe there is a connection somewhere.
You sure are a great source of genealogy knowledge. You are certainly able to provide awesome information that has been searched for years. All the other info in this string you provided helped me out greatly. Thank you for contributing your time helping us find our way home....
LindaJae
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I just thought I would throw my two cents into the ring and see what happens. I am a Leeden that traces back to the Leeding's. We connect to the Bentley's thus.
Thomas Leeding m.Ann Southwell in 19/19/1742 Yaxley. They had 8 children.
Their youngest,Samuel Leeding m.Sarah Clay 19/7/1784 Holywell. They had 7 children who's last names changed to Leeden.
The youngest was also named Samuel Leeden who m.Sarah Bass 18/12/1810 Oldhurst. This is where the connection comes in. Their children were in order:
Elizabeth 14/11/1813 Oldhurst
Mary Ann 18/1/1816 Oldhurst
Phoebe 29/6/1819 Oldhurst
Sally 29/7/1821 Warboys
Charlotte 4/5/1913 Oldhurst
William 5/9/1829 Warboys
Charlotte Leeden m.George Bentley (bn.6/4/1825)
Charlotte and George had 5 children:
Mary Elizabeth Bentley m.William Bright
George Bentley m.Mary Bird
Benjamin Leeden Bentley m.Elizabeth Jane Burton
Rebecca Bentley m.Joseph Caddy
Julia Bentley m.John Caddy
The only child that our tree continues on it that of Benjamin. Benjamin had three kids:
George Edward Bentley m.Agnes Kate Weeks
Gabriel Bentley
Benjamin Bentley
This is where it gets interesting. For some reason George and Agnes's kids took the Leeden last name.
I will have to read back over past posts to see where everything fits in but it looks like we may have some interesting cross over here.
Austen
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In 1881 my gran's family REYNOLDS was also living in Fen Lane .Next week I have the opportunity to go to Needingworth for the first time .But I cannot find Fen Lane on the map .It seems to be a very short road off Church Lane & the pub Lion & Lamb seems to have gone or been renamed .Can anyone help please ?
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Welcome to Rootschat
Peter Jarman on another board gave you the following information
"Looking at the enumerators route in 1881 - Church Lane (which is from Holywell), then Lion & Lamb, Fen Lane, then 3 other houses in Fen Lane, then Chapel Close. Enumerators didn't always do their rounds in a logical progression.
So it could be that small passage leading left out of Chapel Close
connecting with the High Street?
There is a Google reference regarding Recreation Ground and Sewage Works as being in Fen Lane as recently as 1951, this would make it the major road below Chapel Close
There is a Holywell-cum-Needingworth Parish Council web site, it may be worth your while contacting them."
Did you contact the parish council?
In post #15 below the Lion and Lamb was in High St in 1861
Googling Fen Lane Needingworth throws up a Cambs CC online catalogue reference for Title Deed: Recreation ground (Malting Close), Fen Lane, Needingworth. Malting Close seems to ba at the end of Park View, off Church St. Was Park View formerly Fen Lane? See http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/birdseye/5-the-maltings/needingworth/st-ives/huntingdon/pe27-4td/18215818 for an aerial view
Enjoy your visit
David
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I thought at first it must be the unamed rd South of Chapel close
But because there were so few houses & the mention of the pub I now think it was a very small one .Presumably church st =church Lane .