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Title: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Friday 27 November 09 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hello there. my grandad James McElhill (McEnhill) fought in WW1, he was staff sergeant and was stationed in India for a time , he was gassed at some point and spent time in a hospital in england.I have no idea what regiment he belonged to so if any one would have any info or tell me where i could look to get some info on him that would be great. He did not die in the war.Thanks so much
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: mmm45 on Saturday 28 November 09 03:48 GMT (UK)
Deleted -reason wrong info!

There are also service records to a McElhill from Co Tyrone online too maybe relative
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: mmm45 on Saturday 28 November 09 04:00 GMT (UK)
Was his dad called Hugh and came from Tatty Keel Omagh Co Tyrone?

If so his pension record survives...This guy was discharged and served in India he was Royal Field artillery and a pre war soldier.
he suffered from Nephritris which was common with gas poisoned soldiers so sounds promising??

Ady :)
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Saturday 28 November 09 10:35 GMT (UK)
O mY God thats him.My aunt (his daughter Mary who is 92) will be so pleased. Thank you so muchIs there anything else on him?
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 28 November 09 10:43 GMT (UK)
Just in case you haven't seen 1911 census- looks like James (occupation- Pension Royal Artillery), father Hugh, etc. here-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Clanabogan/Tattykeel__Rogers_/874078/

IGI (www.familysearch.org) has a James McElhill, son of Hugh & Catherine (McGale), birth in 1865 (and also a daughter Margaret Jane 1870).
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: mmm45 on Saturday 28 November 09 11:05 GMT (UK)
Looks like he was a national reservist recalled in 1914
His medical history is still intact may tell a story or two
Entitled to 1914 star british war and victory medals and a silver war badge


Hope this helps

Ady
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Saturday 28 November 09 12:14 GMT (UK)
where abouts in India was he likely based? I joined ancestry.co.uk there but cant get anything on him.Where could i get a copy of his medical history or who would i need to contact about that and his pension thing from the army? As you can tell ,i know nothing about WW1  !!!
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: rainedoff on Sunday 10 January 10 17:51 GMT (UK)
If the James McEnhill, that sarahmck refers to, was the son of Hugh McEnhill(McElhill) and Mary Stars, then he was a half brother to my Grandfather, Edward.
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Sunday 10 January 10 17:58 GMT (UK)
hello there , my name is Sraha mckiernan my mother was mcEnhill, she was the youngest child of James.I live in Omagh. I have athousand questions for you, are you in omagh , how are yoi related to james. This is great!
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: rainedoff on Sunday 10 January 10 18:08 GMT (UK)
My mother was also a McEnhill. Her father came to Scotland before 1905, married and stayed.
I have a couple of old pictures from around then, perhaps you can identify some of the people?
My grandfather was of the second marriage between Hugh McEnhill and Jane Gormley. His first marriage was to Ellen McBride, which produced three daughters, Sarah, Margaret and Mary. Sarah settled in Scotland with her husband, John, son of Hugh McEnhill and Catherine McGale. "My" Hugh's father was Henry and the other Hugh's father was Owen. They were brothers. "My"Hugh died in 1911. Is any of this familiar to you?
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Sunday 10 January 10 19:08 GMT (UK)
I am just starting my family history so at the minute im just piecing things together myself.I have a book here that my aunt Mary gave me (she is the eldest daughter of James McElhill and is alive and well at 92,with a great memory so i would say she could identify the people in your photo.Do you have an address that i could post some photos to. I have a great photo of james around 1910 in his army uniform.I would like a photo of his brother Hugh or his father Hugh.My address is 8 Shergrim glen, Omagh, Co Tyrone, BT79 7GS. My phone number is 02882252376. You are more than welcome to call or post those photos. We can help each other. Thanks so much
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: Bobbie76 on Sunday 10 January 10 19:44 GMT (UK)
Saw your message about Hugh mc Elhill and his first wife Ellen Mc Bride. I am trying to trace the descendants of this line. Ellen Mc bride was the eldest daughter of my Gt.Gt.Grandfather. Ellen and Hugh were married on the 21 Dec. 1869 in Langfield, Drumquin does that tie in with your records?
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Sunday 10 January 10 19:58 GMT (UK)
yes that is right ,they had 3 children , Ellen, Sarah and Maggie.hughs first wife died when the children were very young and back then a father was not allowed to rear the children himself (they would have been taken into care)  so he needed a house keeper but he couldnt be seen to have a live in house keeper unless they were married so he married wife no 2 miss gormley. They had 2 children ,Ned and another Ellen.His 2nd wife died in childbirth so houskeeper/wife no3 was Mary McSorley and they had James (my grandfather). Susan Jeannie,Agnes and Hugh (hows daughter married local poet Felix kearney).
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: mmm45 on Sunday 10 January 10 19:59 GMT (UK)
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=BritishArmy&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=angs-d&gsln=mcenhill&dbOnly=_F0003C18%7c_F0003C18_x&pcat=39&fh=0&h=507201&recoff=2


Heres the ancestry link to his pension file.

Ady
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Sunday 10 January 10 20:06 GMT (UK)
wife no 3 was starrs not McSorley !!! Where abouts are you? i am in Omagh
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: Bobbie76 on Sunday 10 January 10 20:19 GMT (UK)
I have a marriage record for a Mary Starrs in Langfield 22/ 5/1881. I do not have a date of death for Ellen Mc Bride.  Can you tell me who Sarah Ann born 20/10/1870 married John? and settled in Scotland.  Did Mary or Margaret marry? I live off the Killybrack Road
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Sunday 10 January 10 20:37 GMT (UK)
According to my aunt, sarah anne married a man called john McEnhill from Killyclogher and they moved to Scotland along with her brother ned, my grandad James went over to them around 1906 to work in the coalmines and it was there he was conscripted to join the army .sarah Anne had a daughter called cathy who was a quailified teacher in London but found it hard to find work so she came to work for dr Flemming and was with him when he discovered Penecillin.I am not sure if she had other children but i will try to find this out. my name is sarah McKiernan and i live in Shergrim Glen so im beside you almost.
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: rainedoff on Monday 11 January 10 00:04 GMT (UK)
Bobbie76
Yes my great grandfather, Hugh married Ellen McBride on 21/12/1869. They had three daughters Sarah Anne, Margaret and Mary b. 1870,1872 and 1874.
Sarah married her first cousin, John McEnhill, son of Hugh McEnhill and Catherine McGale 15/7/1891, and moved to live in Scotland. I don't know if Margaret or Mary married,I need to look at my notes.
Hugh's father was Henry and his mother was Sarah Coll. Henry's father was James and mother was Peggy McGlynn.
My grandfather, Edward b.1879 was of the second marriage to Jane Gormley and had a sister, Ellen b.1877.
I have a couple of old pictures and I think that one could be of Ellen McBride, and the other could be of a younger Hugh.
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: newphone on Monday 14 June 10 19:18 BST (UK)
im trying to trace my grandfather.....   i only know that he was discharged through injury to his foot ( i think)... his name was James Mullin born in Omagh around 1883. I have no idea when he joined or any other clues, I did find one James Mullin in the Inniskilling Fusiliers.... any help please ?
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: sarahmck on Monday 14 June 10 21:45 BST (UK)
hello there, my granny was mullan before she married my grandfather, i think she had a brother called james , her father was james , he was a stone mason,they lived in the tattykeel area of omagh near Clanabogan. I dont have much info on them at the minute as i,ve just started my family tree on that side. i have an aunt that has a great memory (shes 92). i will ask her the names of my grandmothers siblings. have you any other information on him???
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: newphone on Tuesday 15 June 10 08:31 BST (UK)
Hi...  check the spelling ! Cos this is Mullin. He had 2 brothers John and Frank and 3 sisters Mary, Susan and Rose. The 1901 census has them at John st Omagh. Im interested in anything that can be added, but Im specifically looking to find him in the Army record. Thanks and good luck.
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: Dolan1 on Wednesday 28 July 10 22:52 BST (UK)
Hi  Sarah

Ive a feeling that you and I are related!

My great grandmother was Agnes Mc Enhill, sister of Hugh, Sarah and James and from Tattykeel (Rodgers) There was another sibling but I dont know his or her name.  I have just started work on the family tree and would be keen to get more information.  Can you help?

Bernie

Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: rainedoff on Wednesday 28 July 10 23:30 BST (UK)
Hi Bernie

Hugh McEnhill and Mary(Stars), third wife, had James, Susan, Hugh, Jeannie and Agnes. My grandfather, Edward was Hugh's son from his second marriage to Jane Gormley. Edward had a sister, Ellen.Hugh had four daughters from his first marriage to Ellen McBride, Sarah Ann, Margaret, Mary and Susan.

Jeannie and Margaret went to live in America. Edward and Sarah lived in Scotland.

We have a lot of information about the McEnhills. Anything particular you would like to know?

Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: Dolan1 on Thursday 29 July 10 11:32 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah and Marie

Am I right in saying that James Mc Enhill (Grandfather of Sarah) was brother of Agnes, who married Peter Mc Cullagh?

Agnes was my great grand mother and I have a photo of her and her husband Peter.  My grandmother is Mary Logue and she is 99 years old and lives between Castlederg and Drumquin

It would seem that James and Agnes's father, Hugh Mc Enhill was married 3 times, therefore it gets a bit complicated.  There is such a big connection of relatives. 

I work in Omagh, Sarah, therefore would be able to meet up any time to share our information.  I am only in the early stages of gathering the information so any help would be appreciated.  My mum has been in contact with P. Montaque and I understand his mother and an elderly aunt has information and we are hoping to meet up soon.
Title: Re: northern irish soldiers in WW1
Post by: rainedoff on Thursday 29 July 10 11:44 BST (UK)
Hi Bernie

Yes that's correct.......James and Agnes were brother and sister. I have pictures of Agnes and Peter and Mary Logue too. Vince has shared them with me. I have some very old pictures too, and would love to put names to the faces! Great grandfather Hugh and Mary (Stars) are in some.

I have copies of Hugh's first and third marriages, but not yet a copy of the second one which is relevant to me. I am happy to share any info with you.

If you like I can email you a personal message, so that we can communicate better. Sarah should have lots to share too.

Marie