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Title: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: paul1947 on Thursday 26 November 09 15:00 GMT (UK)

I am trying to find some information on Thomas CRUSE born c Mar 1841 POUGHILL , Cornwall.

He is shown in the 1881 census to have originated from Poughill. The marriage cert for his son Thomas Alwyne CRUSE shows The father's occupation to be a Harbour Master. No info on where though.

Previously he was a Police Officer. Does anyone know if it is possible to check if he was , in fact , a harbour master and where this would have been.

Any info on the Cruse family will be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Paul Evans
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 15:15 GMT (UK)
the only thomas cruse born in cornwall in 1841 was reg in jan/feb/mar. in stratton
here he is in 1841
HO107/151/4/43/6
richard carter age 60
ann carter age 60
mary ann carter age 20
edward carter age 20
robert carter age 3
john ---- age 65. occ. mason
william cruse age 25. occ. agr.lab
susan cruse age 25
thomas cruse age 5mnths
living at;kilkhampton,cornwall
reg.dist. stratton
all born in county
i think but am not 100% sure that poughill is not far from kilkhampton
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 15:24 GMT (UK)
I had just come back to write the same thing !!!!

Poughill is near to Kilkhampton.

Never forget not all births were registered that early on .This may be one case of that.

Bap Kilkhampton 19th Feb 1841 Thomas to William and Susan

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 15:33 GMT (UK)
1871
RG10/2257/71/44.
thomas cruse age 29. b. kilkhampton. occ. police officer. head
mary ann age 26. b. tregony. wife
john barnicoat cruse age 1mnth. b. newlyn east,cornwall. son
sarah ann barnicoat age 20. b. tregony. sister in law
elizabeth bathsheda tiddy age 22. b. st.mawes. cousin
living at; newlyn,cornwall
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 15:38 GMT (UK)
In the 1871 census the family is in Newlyn and Thomas is again a Police Officer.

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 15:39 GMT (UK)
Me and Wozzle are on the same thought train.

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 15:39 GMT (UK)
marr index
name; thomas cruse
y.o.r. 1869
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; truro
vol; 5c
page; 229
on the same page mary ann barnicoat
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 15:41 GMT (UK)
fizzy bubble
can you see him in 1851,1861 i cannot find him anywhere
mick
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 15:45 GMT (UK)
In 1901 he is a retired police officer in St Just in Roseland so may well have become a harbour master then.


Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 15:51 GMT (UK)
could be him in 1861
transcribed as crews
RG9/1512/34/4
john osborne age 69. b. kilkhampton. occ. farmer. head
elizabeth osborne age 71. b. stratton. wife
jane courtice age 17. b. kilkhampton. occ. house servant.
jane braunton age 16. b. devon. occ. house servant
thomas crews(cruse) age 19. b. kilkhampton. occ. carter
charles cornish age 17. b. ditto. occ. carter
john courtier age 14. b. ditto. occ. carter
william hambly age 12. b. ditto. occ. general servant
living at;kilkhampton,cornwall
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 15:54 GMT (UK)
Yes I agree with 1861 Wozzle - just come back from Freecen - haha

Cant find his Mum and dad and they dont seem to have had any more children. Wonder if they died and in 1851 Thomas was with a Barnicoat family somewhere ?

Fizzy

PS the confusion with him saying he was born Poughill seems to be with his father William and siblings having beeen born there.
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 15:58 GMT (UK)
27 year old William Cruse died in Kilkhampton in 1842 so perhaps Mum remarried ?

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 16:04 GMT (UK)
No not barnicoat sorry

If his parents were William and Susan then she was a HOPGOOD.

In 1849 Susan Cruse married either Daniel barrable or William Bonetta.

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 16:10 GMT (UK)
found him i think in 1851. transcribed as cruise
HO107/1897/104/19
william berratta age 56. b. morwenstow. occ. farm labourer head
susan berratta age 38. b. kilkhampton. wife
thomas cruise. age 10. b. kilkhampton. wifes son
elizabeth cruise age 8. b. ditto. wifes daughter
norah berratta age 1. b. poughill. daughter.
living at;broomhill, poughill,cornwall
so thomas's father must have died between 1843 when elizabeth was born and 1850 when norah was born
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 16:21 GMT (UK)
here is the 1891 entry
transcribed as crews
RG12/1827/44/27
thomas crews age 50. b. kilkhampton. occ. police constable. head
mary.a. age 46. b. tregony. wife
jane.t. age 16. b. st.mawes. occ. pupil teacher. daughter
mabel.n. age 14. b. ditto. daughter
thomas.a. age 11. b. ditto. son
elizabeth.t. age 8. b. ditto. daughter
living at;st.just,st.mawes,cornwall
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 16:29 GMT (UK)
Thomas father could have died as soon as his mother was pregnant with her second child so I think he was the one who died in 1842 and then Elizabeth was born a bit later 1842/1843


Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 26 November 09 16:30 GMT (UK)
i can tell you that on the 1911 census
his occupation states pensioner (police force)
underneath this it says collector of pier and harbour dues
there is only him and his wife mary ann living in the household
they are living at st.mawes
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 16:39 GMT (UK)
And.....if thomas was trying to describe that job to the registrar it is prob why it was recorded as harbour master.

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 26 November 09 16:47 GMT (UK)
St Just in Roseland churchyard

Thomas Cruse bur  11-Jun 1921 aged 80

Mary Ann Cruse his wife bur 11-Jan 1929 aged 84

Both died in St Mawes.

Lots of Barnicoats buried in the same churchyard.

Fizzy
Title: Re: Thomas CRUSE
Post by: John Treleven on Saturday 09 November 13 18:54 GMT (UK)


"In 1849 Susan Cruse married either Daniel Barrable or William Bonetta"

Susan Cruse md William Bonetta
Daniel Barrable md Elizabeth Boundy

Susan Bonetta d 1887/4 aged 68