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Title: christian name help....
Post by: parky96 on Wednesday 25 November 09 15:36 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help me work out the name of this person(female) who was a witness to a marriage back in 1915 in Wigton, cumberland? Have been searching for a while with no luck ???
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: oldtimer on Wednesday 25 November 09 15:50 GMT (UK)
...Well it obviously looks like Guan  but I have never heard of such a name!
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: km1971 on Wednesday 25 November 09 15:51 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage of a Guan Smith on FreeBMD, in Uttoxeter in 1882.

Ken
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: parky96 on Wednesday 25 November 09 15:56 GMT (UK)
I have been looking through some records from the area to see if it could be similar to something else - needless to say i havnt been able to come up with anything.
 I will have a look at the one you have come up with in Uttoxeter.
As far as i am aware they are not related but with it being such an usual name i just had to try and find out what i could about them.
Thanks for your help ;)
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: oldtimer on Wednesday 25 November 09 16:03 GMT (UK)
I see she signed with her mark.

If you say Guan out loud it sounds like June
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: oldtimer on Wednesday 25 November 09 16:08 GMT (UK)
Forget that! Theere aren't ant Junes on FreeBMD  :-\
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 25 November 09 16:10 GMT (UK)
Does look like Guan but could it have been Gwen (and writer couldn't spell it)?
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: Archivos on Wednesday 25 November 09 16:41 GMT (UK)
Looks like Guan!  Could be a strange spelling of Jan, Gwen (as aghadowey has said), Guyan (which I've actually only seen as a surname)...
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: Jean McGurn on Saturday 28 November 09 16:37 GMT (UK)
Wonder if the witness name is Guan Smith his mark?

There is a HUBERT GUAN SMITH age 27 in Ashton under Lyne Lancashire in the 1911 census 

Jean
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: heywood on Saturday 28 November 09 16:58 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone,

could it be Joan Smith? There is one in Wigton born 1857 in 1911 census?

best wishes
heywood

just thought.. or pehaps Joanne?
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: parky96 on Sunday 29 November 09 13:55 GMT (UK)
 I put a few different spellings of the name in searches and i found it is popular in Chinese names(guan). Although i am kind of leaning towards the name meaning something else as it was wrote by someone other than that person. A few show up in America too(male names).
I will keep trawling through the records thanks again for all your help :)
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: heywood on Sunday 29 November 09 15:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Parky,

the person should show up somewhere in census records though. At the moment, I am thinking it is a mispelling but again, it is unusual for 1915 when there was more education.  :-\
heywood
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: kimhulme on Sunday 29 November 09 17:21 GMT (UK)
In  a book of English Christian Names(not looked at for years) it states, regarding Guenevere......."In Scotland it became Guanor, Vanora, or Wander. Gaenor is still used in N Wales"
Lots of friends, as a witness was most likely to be, or a relative,  could have a shortened name or a nickname. Where do you think I got Kim from?
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: heywood on Sunday 29 November 09 20:45 GMT (UK)
I like those names, Kim - you can see the origins of the name which was popular a few years back - Gaynor, I think there.

Parky,
Were the bride and groom both from Wigton? Were they young people? Any Smith connections?

heywood
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: parky96 on Monday 30 November 09 10:54 GMT (UK)
So far i believe they were both from the wigton area(which covers a wide area, lots of hamlets and villages). Havnt really gone any further back at the moment as the mans surname is quite a common one up here. They were both young when they got married the groom being 21 and the bride was 23. I will try to find out a bit more this week. The later family had a bit of a habit of naming their children one name and then changing them same names to something else - so that has been interesting in trying to find people. :o
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: heywood on Monday 30 November 09 11:55 GMT (UK)
1911 shows no Smiths with names beginning with 'Gu' inCumberland.  There is a Gwendoline aged 7 yrs in Cockermouth but she would only be 11 yrs in 1915 for the marriage.
Nothing much for elsewhere either.
At the moment, my money is on Joan- really because nothing else shows up and she can't write.  :-\
However, she may be nothing at all to do with your couple -she could be just a passer by.
Please let us know if you find out.

heywood
Title: Re: christian name help....
Post by: parky96 on Monday 30 November 09 11:57 GMT (UK)
Will do, getting side tracked at the moment on my Mothers family, but will try to get back to this line shortly :)