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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: NDRFT on Wednesday 25 November 09 13:27 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I have George Hamilton Hands B 1882 Oxfordshire who died of Tench Fever in Killingbeck Military Hospital Leeds on 1 Feb 1918. It is suspected that he was buried locally and I wonder if any one may know where that burial may have taken place? I have looked on NBI Edt 2 but no entry, perhaps PR's?
Any help would be so welcome
Regards
Nigel
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I've just looked at the Leeds Burials Index and can find no record of a George Hamilton Hands. Sorry.
Woody.
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Thanks Woody, I shall post this on the Worcestershire site where he may be buried?
Cheers
Nigel
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was he 30089 Pte George H Hands Worcester Regiment?
Ady
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Hi Ady
Well to be honest I don't know nor does any one in the family and I hope one day to be able to find out -got any clues then going by your bait you're dangling in your post?
Cheers
Nigel
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Hi Nigel
I checked ww1 medal index cards for similar names(his date of birth means military service is likely in 14-18 war) and that youd entered a worcester connection came up with this guy.
HOWEVER hes not on CWGC or SDGW as you would expect of a serving soldier if died in Service( was it Trench Fever??)
If he had been discharged from military then he wouldnt have been.
Back to the detective work :) May need a National Burials Index lookup for 1918 thats only way i traced someone in my research.
There is a tree on Ancestry to a George Hamilton Hands who was born Banbury 1881 and died in hospital in CHILE Feb 1918 could this be your man? paerents Steven and Anna are listed?
Ady
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Hi Ady
I can't find him either so your post is reassuring. I've looked in all the obvious and lots of nothing.
No SDWG, CWGC, NBI, NA, etc, etc but am still searching.
The family member is his great grand niece and she has the obituary and some notes from her Mum. He is commemorated on a memorial in Pershore. You see if he was serving then he may qualify as Non Comm for a CWGC head stone -if we can find the grave?
I am in touch with the owner of that tree on Ancestry (in Canada) he left in Blank and Ancestry defaulted to a country of North / South America as it some times will if those fields are left empty - but I s'pect you knew that, sorry to rattle on chap. He did not know it said this guy died in Chile and was wrong and is correcting that!!
Thanks for your help and time
Cheers
Nigel
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Nigel, if you phone Lawnswood Cemetery at Leeds they will be able to tell you if he was buried in the area. The hold ALL records for Burials and Cremations.
When you enquire about the Burial also get them to check Cremations - they won't check Cremations unless asked (as a rule).
Tele: 0113 267 3188
Hope this is of some help to you.
Dee
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Hi Dee
Thanks for the info. I have just called them and a very pleasant chap said he could not help if I don't know the cemetery as they are not on a PC and as there are so many it would take too much time as it is a manual search.
But again thanks for the suggestion
T ra
Nigel
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Hi Nigel
If he is a Non Commemorated soldier and you need any advice( when you find him!) let me know ive just successfully had a lad added to CWGC Debt of Honour i suspect he lies in an unmarked grave in East Ardsley after dying of TB in Carr Gate hospital in 1918 after discharge.Thankfully i had a partial record survive and hes on my local war memorial and the Death Cert was useful as it tied in with cause of discharge.
Maybe a case of viewing all George Hands Medal Index Cards and seeing if any are discharged then follow those up
Also try Yorkshire Indexers if you suspect a Leeds Connection.
Could he be listed as George Hamilton?
Good luck
Ady
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http://www.worcesterbmsgh.co.uk/PershoreHolyCross.html
Nigel
If you state he is on Pershore WM then the above link if you open and scroll down you will see there is/was a scrapbook made incorporating pages on the lads on the memorial so hopefully will find him in there.
Ady
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Ady
Nice one in fact extremely nice. We are on to that and should have some one in there taking a look next week!
I have already done the name variations and no luck. There is a rellie in Worcestershire who is still alive !! I am suggesting she gets in the library and to the memorail for a photo - we'll see?
Cheer - again!!!!
Nigel
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NDRFT
Have you tried Killingbeck Cemetery or Harehills Cemetery in Leeds. Killingbeck adjoined Killingbeck Hospital. Would help if you knew his religious denomination. I think I'm right in saying that Killingbeck was where Roman Catholics are buried.
Busybod
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Hi Busybod
I will try that but it seems he may have been buried in pershore but I need to check so thanks for the tip
Nigel
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You're welcome Nigel.
Busybod