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Title: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Friday 11 March 05 18:16 GMT (UK)
I am looking for information on Charles William Harlow born 1882, Burton on Trent. His parents listed on his death registration are John Woolley and Caroline Harlow. I have found John and Caroline on the 1881 census but not on the 1891 census. Can anyone help, please.
Wmouse
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Tuesday 15 March 05 14:49 GMT (UK)
Hiya wmouse

I think this might be a contender for Caroline

202 Horn Road, Horniglow

William Loverock aged 68 head b Burton on Trent Farmer
Maria Loverock aged 64 wife b Horniglow
Annie Maria Loverock aged 22 daughter b Horniglow
Caroline Woolley aged 46 widow b Horniglow general servant

Source RG12/2206 Folio 77

I know the age isn't right but on the 1871 census she is listed as 27 and on the 1881 she is listed as 40. I cannot find any reference for John's death but as he isn't appearing anywhere else in the 1891 census it may be that the BMD reference just hasn't been transcribed yet

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Tuesday 15 March 05 17:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks willow,

Willow,

This helps alot.

It may also explain the difference in the different surnames, if she left Charles William to be raised by her brother. Now I just have to find her brother.

I think she had a younger brother named George, but I am not sure.

My ggrandfather's name was John Clarence, which were supposed to be traditional family names on Charles William's side, if that helps at all.

Thanks again.

wmouse
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 16 March 05 20:22 GMT (UK)
Hiya wmouse

Do you think this might be them in the 1891 census?

191 Stafford Street Burton upon Trent

John Harlow head aged 42 Bricklayer
Clara Harlow wife aged 31
John aged 8 son
Walter aged 6 son
Elizabeth aged 4 daughter

all born Burton upon Trent

Source RG12/2206 Folio 57

That is the only John aged around 8 listed for Stafford in the 1891 census. The nearest ones are aged 5 and 19. I have looked for a marriage certificate for John and Clara but there isn't one listed. I wonder if this is her brother?

I did look for a George but the two born in Horniglow are aged 44 and 13 - The 13 year old ones father is called George too

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Wednesday 16 March 05 21:54 GMT (UK)
Hi willow

This John could be a brother. I will try and research it further on my end. Did you come across any Charles Harlow's in the 1891 census? From what information I have Caroline did have a brother named Charles who was christened at the same time as her in March 1846. Her parents names were George and Elizabeth Harlow, I do not know Elizabeth's maiden name. As I said Charles William is something of a mystery to us. 

I appreciate the information you have given me.

wmouse
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 16 March 05 22:32 GMT (UK)
Yep we have at 146 Short Street, Stapenhill, Burton

Charles Harlow aged 45 b Horniglow Head occ Brewers Labourer
Sarah aged 45 b Church Broughton? Derby wife
John aged 23 son b Hapenwell? Derby Brewers Labourer
Sarah Harlow neice aged 5 b Horniglow

Source RG12/2199 Folio 155

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 16 March 05 22:35 GMT (UK)
Also in the BMD we have

George Harlow marrying Elizabeth Kitchings 4th 1/4 1842 in Burton volume 17 page 35

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Wednesday 16 March 05 22:39 GMT (UK)
Thanks Willow,

That means a lot to me. Now at least I know who Caroline's parents were.
As I said I really appreciate the time you are putting in finding this information for me.

wmouse
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 16 March 05 22:42 GMT (UK)
Your welcome

Just paying back some of the time other people in rootschat have put in for me. If you need any more help just yell

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 16 March 05 22:49 GMT (UK)
I don't know if you have this but in 1871 we have in Loverocks Yard, Horniglow

George Harlow aged 44 b Horniglow head Farm labourer
Elizabeth harlow aged 47 b Lichfield wife
Fanny aged 9 b Horniglow daughter
Fredrick aged 6 b Horniglow son
George aged 13 b Horniglow son Farm servant

Source Rg10/2908 Folio 63

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Wednesday 16 March 05 23:25 GMT (UK)
Hi willow,

No I did not have that one.

By any chance did you come across Charles William Harlow as a child aged about 9 in the 1891 census? He was born Dec 4, 1882, so that would make him 8 or 9.

Thanks again for the help
wmouse :)
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 16 March 05 23:38 GMT (UK)
The only Charles Harlow listed is aged 7

At 62 Horn Road North? Horniglow

George Harlow aged 36 b Horniglow Head occ Brewers Labourer
Miriam aged 31 b Tattenhill? wife
Charles aged 7 b Horniglow son
John aged 4 b Horniglow son

Source RG12/2206 Folio 71

I think this is the right one because checked George in the 1881 census and he is listed as living on his own aged 25. Maybe they had a problem remembering ages

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Thursday 17 March 05 00:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks willow,

That does look like it is the right one. We do know he emigrated to Canada between 1900 and 1904 as he got married in 1904 in Medicine Hat, Alberta to Alice Threasa Tozer.

I still have a lot of work ahead of me but you certainly have made it easier.

Thanks again

wmouse ;D
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Willow 4873 on Thursday 17 March 05 00:10 GMT (UK)
Glad I could help

Willow x
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: forsythellon on Tuesday 05 April 05 23:55 BST (UK)
Hi,I am also looking for Harlow's..George Harlow brn abt 1856 Birmingham and married Sarah Cockrill brn abt 1858,theymarried in Aston dec 1876.I have found them in 1901,1891,1881,and he may be the george Harlow Horninglow age 13 yrs father also George.George and Sarah had,margaret,elizabeth,ada,LUCY came to new zealand,and Marion.I have 4 possiables for Sarah Cockrill brn abt 1860.can anyone help ?
Anne-Maree
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: Wmouse on Friday 08 April 05 00:22 BST (UK)
Hi Anne-Maree,
 I have a Charles Harlow born 1846, who married Sarah, sorry I don't have her last name.
Charles had a younger brother named George, who was born 1856/7 in Horninglow, Staffordshire, he married Miriam born 1860, in Tatenhill, sometime between 1881 and 1891, as he was listed as single in the 1881 census.

Charles is the only one I have as having a Sarah as his wife.

I don't know if this helps, but let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.

wmouse
Title: Re: Staffordshire surnames
Post by: 1000xlch on Sunday 08 May 05 17:33 BST (UK)
Hi wmouse

Try the Canada national archives about what records in Canada, also emigration lists on rootsweb or genuki links, post 1920's there is a website called pier21.

Hope this helps

John Rowley