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Title: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: isiwig on Monday 23 November 09 18:42 GMT (UK)
Sarah Jane Lowe b. 1863 in Earlestown. She married Richard McCartney in Accrington in 1882 and had three children. In 1891 she is living in Accrington with her children but no husband. In 1901 she is living with William Stevenson as his wife with their children, together with her McCartney children, in Giles St., Padiham. I cannot find a marriage record for this couple or a death record for Richard McCartney. In 1911 she is still with William Stevenson and their children in Giles St., but also listed is one of her McCartney children (Nellie) under the name of Waddington. Her other two McCartney children(Albert Edward and Arthur) are listed but again under the names of Waddington and then crossed out. Albert Edward Waddington is living nearby with his wife and family. I cannot think of any explanation of why these McCartney children should change their name to Waddington.
Would be interested to hear any thoughts on this.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: wozzle on Monday 23 November 09 19:01 GMT (UK)
on the 1911 it should state how many years she has been married?
also on the 1891 does it state she is married or widowed?
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: mosiefish on Monday 23 November 09 20:04 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Interestingly there is a marriage of a Sarah Jane Waddington to William Stevenson on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk in 1895 at Burnley Register Office or at a Registrar attended service.

Regards,
Mo

Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: isiwig on Tuesday 24 November 09 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Mo and Wozzle, 

Thanks for your replies.  To answer the questions you raised - on the 1891 census Sarah Jane is listed as married (to Richard McCartney) and on the 1911 census it states she has been in the current marriage (presumably to William Stevenson) for nineteen years which means that she moved in with William in approx. 1892.

The marriage record you found Mo is indeed interesting but it has just confused me even more, although I think that this is probably the correct record - but when did she become a Waddington?

Thanks again for your input.

Isi.
Title: Any links?
Post by: Mark01246 on Thursday 20 May 10 16:33 BST (UK)
hi Isiwig,

I'm new to this site and I see you're searching for LOMAX in Darwen. You're welcome to have a look at my family tree (searchable) on my webpage and se if there's any connections.

http://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-60428801/cook?familyTreeID=2

Thanks,

Mark  :)
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: isiwig on Thursday 20 May 10 21:31 BST (UK)
Hi Mark,

Thanks for contacting me regarding the Lomax family.  I've had a look at your web site and although we both have some people with the same names the dates do not tie-in, so I'm sorry to say that I can't find any connection. 

I'll keep your web site in my records and contact you in the future should I find any connection.

Isi.

PS  Hope you enjoy this site -  I've had lots of help from 'Rootschatters' in the past and hope they can help you too.  Best wishes.
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: TimW on Friday 21 May 10 10:10 BST (UK)
Hello isiwig,

I don't have any connection, but I thought this was interesting and took a look.  I began by looking at the crossed out names that you mention from the 1911 census - Albert and Arthur.  I think that both of these married in the preceding decade.  Albert Edward married Martha Alice Leeming in 1904 at All Saints church, Habergham Eaves, and - as you point out - the family resided in Giles St, Padiham in 1911.  I *think* Arthur married Ada Wilkinson at Padiham St Leonard in 1903 with the family living in Lawrence St, Padiham in 1911.

So I think both children married with the Waddington name and also used it on the 1911 census.

So I think the next step would be to look at the marriage details for Albert in particular, and see who he names as his father.  The marriage registers for All Saints are held at the Lancs Record Office in Preston, so if you live near there you could take a look and avoid the certificate fee.  I live too far away to be able to help here.

The other interesting thing I noticed is that Sarah is described in 1891 as married, rather than as a widow.  There could be various explanations for this, desertion being one, and raising the possibility of the father of the earlier children not being Richard McCartney.

Anyway, I hope this helps, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

Tim W
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: dotty on Friday 21 May 10 16:05 BST (UK)
According to the Lancashire BMD Albert and Arthur were registered in the name of McCartney ,mothers maiden name Lowe

Dotty
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: isiwig on Sunday 23 May 10 18:18 BST (UK)
Hi TimW & Dotty,

Thank you both for your interest in my little puzzle and for your input.

 I agree that perhaps sight of a marriage certificate for Albert Edward Waddington might reveal who his father was but even if he was a Waddington, I still can't find a marriage for Sarah Jane Lowe/McCartney to a Waddington.

If I find any more information I'll post it on this site.

Thanks once again.

Isi.
Title: Re: Please can anyone throw any light on the following enigma.
Post by: starseed on Thursday 23 September 10 16:27 BST (UK)
Hello.  I'm looking for anyone who might have some information on my great-great grandmother.  Her name was Mary Ann Lomax, b. in Bury Feb. 6, 1832, d. Oct. 1, 1923.  She was married to George Openshaw, b. Bury Apr. 10, 1832, d. Lancashire Sept. 17, 1900.  They had 8 children,   Her father's name was John Lomax.  Thank you.