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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: robP on Sunday 22 November 09 22:18 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
This might be a long shot, but one worth a try. I have in my possession a book called 'Dark Lane the Forgotten Village' by Dennis Rogers. The reason I would like to talk to Dennis or in fact a Brenda Poole, is because in the book there are pictures of and references to a number of Poole's who lived in Dark Lane, and I would dearly like to know where my branch of the Poole family are in the scheme of things.
The book itself was never printed through a publisher, so I cannot follow that route to find Mr Rogers, so if anyone out there knows of either Mr Rogers or Brenda Poole I would be more than willing to pass my e-mail address on to them.
here's hoping
Rob Poole
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hello,
It might be worth contacting Shirley Tart as she mentioned the book in an article that appeared in the October edition of the Shropshire Magazine.
s.g.d.
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What area of Shropshire would that be Rob?
A Mr. Poole was Headteacher at The Stiperstones School, in the 1940`s , I`m not sure exactly but the family came from elsewhere.
I have a feeling I have read the book but recall it as a work of fiction, unless I am confusing it with another of similar title--perhaps" The secret Lane"
Viktoria.
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Hi s.g.d
I saw that article online only a couple of days ago when I just happened to do a search of 'Dark Lane' I didn't see a 'contact us' link but it was only a quick read of the article anyway, so might just have another look to see what I can find.
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Hi, Viktoria
The work was not a piece of fiction but a short history as a way of remembering the families who lived and worked (in the mine) in Dark Lane (which was in Dawley Magna), before it all got pulled down to make way for Telford. the book contains facts and pictures of some of the families who lived and worked in Dark Lane
The book itself was not sent to print through a publisher, I just happened to obtain a copy through Amazon that someone had offered up for sale.
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hello again,
http://www.shropshiremagazine.com/contact-us/
s.g.d.
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Hi s.g.d
Thank you for that link it is much appreciated.
Rob
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Hello! Anyone who wants to buy a copy of Dark Lane can do so as it is back in print again, this time published by the Wellington News.
http://thewellingtonnews.co.uk/content/dark-lane-book-available-again
It is a great piece of local history writing and nicely illustrated.
It's on sale at the Wellington News shop at 2, Crown Street, Wellington, Telford, Shropshire, TF1 1LP. It costs £11.99 over the counter. Postage would be extra as it is not a slim book!
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To Rob P
In answer to your question about the Poole Family my mom is married to one who is related to the Pooles from Dark Lane. He too has the book in question. If you want any more information please contact me
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Check out 'You Tube' someone has very kindly put on a 5 minute cine film of dark lane. Brilliant!!!!!!!!! just put 'dark lane in the 1960's' in the search box.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuW_6RfvABI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUW3cH_hZX0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dosE3c_FNz0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Xw1RHjmv4&feature=related
I thought that these links might help
s.g.d.
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Thank you s.g.d for those links, I didn't realise that they were on you tube, it is wonderful to see it for 'real' so to speak instead of the couple of photo's I picked up off the web. Who knows I might have been looking at some distant relatives.
Rob
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Hi Rob
I have passed that information onto my mom and she will relay it to her husband who is related to the Pooles. Could you give me your email address so I can contact you direct as I'm not very good at using this site.
Thanks Lisa
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I know I am comming late to the conversation but my mom would talk about this place as part of her childhood, I have since inheited this book, her parents lived there for a while, not sure why this brought such fond memories for her. Their last name would have been Hudson, I believe Tart was my grandmothers maiden name and Shirley Tart sounds familiar....
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Hi
Always nice to hear from descendents whose family lived in Dark Lane all those years ago.
It was at the time of the 1871 census that my Great Great Grandfather Richard Poole and his family lived next door to a branch of the Tart family.
I must admit I haven't read the book completely all the way through, at the moment I have been just picking out sections relating to any Poole's that are mentioned and their pictures.
Any other information I can help with please do not hesitate to ask.
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:) Hi RobP
Are you still wanting to contact Melville and Dennis Rogers the author of the book and maker of the film on YouTube?
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Hi Dragoness
Sorry for the delay getting back to you and yes it would be great to be able to talk to Melville or Dennis about the book and perhaps glean some more information from them. :)
Rob
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Hi Lisa
I'm afraid I cannot actually remember if I replied to your message (all those months ago) or not, many apologies if I didn't.
And in answer to you question that you asked some time ago, yes, thank you it would be great to talk to someone who is related to the Poole's from Dark Lane and which branch of the Poole's he came from.
my e-mail is (*)
again many apologies for leaving it so long and look forward to hearing from your dad soon (I hope)
thanks again
Rob
Hi Rob
I have passed that information onto my mom and she will relay it to her husband who is related to the Pooles. Could you give me your email address so I can contact you direct as I'm not very good at using this site.
Thanks Lisa
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No delay tbh :)
I am going to have to make a few random posts until I am authorised to PM you with the information for contacting Melville and Dennis.
Have you contacted the Wellington News, they have information on them and could have got a message to them for you?
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Hi
if you want to up your posts we could just have a random chat to get you through the amount you need.
So, without giving too much away of course, do you know Melville and Dennis?
I don't know if you have read through previous posts on this thread, but someone did actually put me on to a Shirley Tart who works for Shropshire Magazine, I tried to contact her through the magazine to talk to her but unfortunately she never got back to me.
I must admit that I have not tried the Wellington News at all. Not coming from Shropshire myself as much as i would love to get over and do some research work and family commitments prevent me from doing so at the moment.
I originally come from Wolverhampton but now live in Lincolnshire having settled here after years of service in the RAF.
Rob :)
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I know of the couple through caravanning.
It was such a coincidence because I was chatting with them about an upcoming rally and Melville was saying about how Telford had changed and we got onto talking about Dark Lane and the book.
After the call (they weren't too happy about some editorial changes made by printers) I decided I would do a little bit of research having been in the printing business up until just recently and amongst the search results for "Dark Lane" was this Forum; Ta Daaaa and here we are!
I had seen the comments about Shirley Tart, but as she is tied in with the Shropshire Star (which does have some good links to the video) and not with the actual printers I thought I might mention the Wellington News, who still hold copies of the book for sale (with a bit of a markup!)
Hopefully not too long now and I can get you some contact details Te He ;D
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Hi again,
I can't remember if I have said or not, but I have already got a copy of Dennis' book, I think I might have one of the earlier copies before someone on this thread said that it was back in print.
I actually got my copy through amazon would you believe and it is a very interesting read. Especially seeing some of the older photo's that are there of some of the Poole's. One of which could be the spitting image of my dad in his younger days.
The name Dark Lane gives the impression of a very imposing place, but I should imagine that it was a very close knit community.
Have you actually seen or read the book yourself?
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Hi Rob
Yes, you had mentioned you had the book off Amazon, Melville was very interested to hear that ;)
I haven't personally seen the book, only the YouTube clips and snippets of the book.
Yes I believe it was a very close knit community and a lot of dismay remains of the way in which the old Telford Development Corporation handled the situation, funnily enough there is a small mutiny taking part in the same area now as the Town Centre is being "REJUVENATED" :P and the Town Park is under threat of development, but that is a different battle LOL.
I will now PM you ;D
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Hi
regarding the book - Dark Lane the forgotten village, I decided to get a copy as my mothers mothers family come from there.
If anyone is interested Amazon no longer stock the book but the Wellington News do, £11.99 + £2 postage if you can't call in person like me. I emailed the editor, which is on the newspaper website and got a quick reply. Looking forward to reading the book and seeing the pictures.
I have always wanted to find out more about this area. My branch of the family were Baughs, but they moved to Lancashire in the late 1800s to find work in the Wigan and then St Helens coal mines. Dark Lane sounded like a rather dark brooding place overshadowed by pit buildings and black with coal dust, but it looks rather more rural than that, the coal dust bit may well be true of course! Its hard to say what it looked like in the Victorian times of course when the pit buildings were still standing.
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Hi Everyone,
I was the one who put the video's of Dark Lane onto YouTube. My mother was born in the village and lived in the top row, her Maiden name was Wilson.
My mums 2 brothers lived in the village all of the time and one had the Post Office up until the village was demolished. The films on YouTube were taken by both my parents and by Dennis Rogers, Dennis and Melville are my cousins. Sadly Dennis passed away on the 26th June 2011.
Toby Neal of the Shropshire Star did an article on the YouTube video's which was in the paper on Friday April 16th 2010 he also did a feature on the village which again was in the paper on January 1st 2003.
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Re Dark Lane, I am researching the Preen family and there is a Dark Lane in Stourport on Severn and my ancestors owned a Tannery down there. Just out of interest there is no mention of either a Tannery or the Preen family in the book you mention is there? Many thanks Angjim
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The Dark Lane video on YouTube is the village where Telford Shropshire now sits.
The village was demolished to make way for the new town of Telford.