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Title: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Preshous on Friday 20 November 09 16:17 GMT (UK)
Hi All
I have just been transcribing the gravestones at St Mary the Virgin Horton and came across 4 head stones for people who all drowned on the 21st of August 1914 at Blyth Sands. I just wondered if these where separate incidents or part of a tragedy that was reported in the local press??.

Gary
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 20 November 09 16:54 GMT (UK)
August must be an unlucky month to be on Blyth Sands

have a look at this link

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=92247&pid=903391&mode=threaded&start=
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: JenB on Friday 20 November 09 17:04 GMT (UK)
Gary,

The Times of 22nd August 1914 reports that 'six men of a party of 17 miners from the New Delavel Colliery were drowned in the sea at Blyth yesterday......one man named Smith was rescued.  Four others brought out of the sea dead. The bodies of two others could not be found. Of the six drowned four were married. Their names were Thomas Latty, Thomas Barker, John Barker, William Barker, William Auld and John Sims. The bodies of the last two have not been recovered'.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Preshous on Friday 20 November 09 17:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks Carole & Jen
Thanks for the information. I thought I had photographed the same headstone 4 times.
Blyth Sands certainly seems to be an unlucky place to bathe. It must have been so distressing for the miners families given that they worked in the most dangerous job in the world only to die while relaxing.

Gary
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Michael Dixon on Friday 20 November 09 18:17 GMT (UK)
Wow, What sad reading !

 I did not know Blyth Sands/Beach could be so deadly!
My family and I were frequenters of Blyth Sands/Beach during 40s and 50s (it was free) and going into the sea was part of the enjoyment.

With the family our spot was near Gloucester Lodge. As I got older my mates and I favoured area around the Blyth Pier ( "West Pier" ). To earn your spurs you had to swim out to sea and around the Blyth Pier lighthouse and back.
It was frightening, and very cold, but it had to be done- the lasses were watching ! I started with a macho  crawl stroke , then when almost out of sight resorted to the "Doggie Paddle"

If I had known about those earlier tragedies, I might have had second thoughts.

Michael "Phelps" Dixon
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Preshous on Friday 20 November 09 18:58 GMT (UK)
Thomas John & William Barker were brothers.
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Preshous on Friday 27 November 09 07:49 GMT (UK)
I know this is off topic but it seems like August must have been an unlucky month just living in and around Blyth.
I came across this headstone in Horton.
In Affectionate Remembrance
of
Helen Susanna
the Beloved Wife of
Thomas Lawrence
Who Died August 16th 1875
Aged 26 Years
Charles Edward Their Son
Died August 12th 1875 Aged Five Years
James Thrussell Their Son
Died August 19th 1875 Aged One Year
William Thomas Their Son
Died August 22nd 1875 Six Years
Modest Home Will Truly Wise
Pity Ever in Her Eyes
Patience Ever in Her Breast
Great in Good in Evil Least
Loving Wife and Mother Dear
Such Was She Who Now Lies Here

Poor Thomas.

Gary
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Michael Dixon on Friday 27 November 09 12:08 GMT (UK)
  Gary,

 When I saw this very sad tidings on this family, I though of epidemic (might be gatroenteritis) in the Cowpen Square community( near the High Ferry landing) round about that time.

 Looked on 1871 census- no result.... I notice FreeBMD has those four deaths in Sept Qtr 1874, not 1875 ?

Michael
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Preshous on Friday 27 November 09 12:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Michael

Very strange that it was registered in 1874. The headstone says 1875. Someone dropped a clanger.
Still very sad.

Gary
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Wilkinson on Sunday 29 November 09 16:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys,
With regard to the bathing accident on Blyth Beach, the three Barker lads drowned were my Grandfather' s Cousins.
Thomas John Barker and William Barker were brothers.
Thomas William Barker was another cousin. 
The gravestones are at the bottom of the churchyard near the fence together with the others who died.    My grandparents are also buried in Horton graveyard.
I've some information somewhere about the accident if anyone is interested.
Yes, Blyth Beach can be a dodgy place to swim particularly towards the middle and Seaton Sluice end.
I was a member of Blyth Swimming Club and the Beach Lifeguards in my youth.
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Wilkinson on Sunday 29 November 09 16:54 GMT (UK)
Further information for Michael Dixon is that Gloucester Lodge where you went swimming was one of the areas which wasa bit dodgyto swim.  This was close to where the accident took place.
As for swimming around the lighthouse and pier - we all did that and across the river and back!!! Daft we were . The swimming club had a changing facility at the harbour and we trained and swam near the pier sometimes -as well as at the main beach.  New Year's Day dip was also cold!! 
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Preshous on Sunday 29 November 09 17:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Wilkinson
Sorry if that seems informal, you didn't sign a name. Any how welcome to RootsChat.
I have no connection with the Barker's. I just photograph and transcribe gravestones and when I came across these I felt I had to find a little bit more about them. Very very sad.
Just to add I have some high definition photographs of the headstones so if you would like a copy just pm me and I will send them to you.

Gary
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: blacktreestump on Saturday 19 November 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
Sorry, I am a bit late in this conversation. 

My Grandfather was standing on the beach watching this incident unfold.  He was just a small boy at the time.  The Barker men who drowned were his cousins/uncles.  "Latty" should read "Batty" or Battie..  he was another cousin.   

My Grandfather never forgot the incident, though he didn't speak of it much either.  He was always anxious on boats for the rest of his life. 

I would appreciate a copy of the transcriptions from the grave stones, if anyone can put them up or message me.


Cheers
Di
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Phodgetts on Thursday 24 November 11 01:09 GMT (UK)
Many people over the years have drowned in the vicinity of what might be called Blyth Bay. There were also a number of tragedies one of which involved the Blyth Lifeboat. April 7th 1810 started off as a dead calm day, but a sudden storm blew up. Many local fishing boats were caught up in what was to become a disaster. Several boats got into difficulty. At Blyth the lifeboat was launched with a crew of 17 men off Hartley Bates. They rowed out to the cobles in distress and rescued 11 men including their tackle! They were making for land back at Hartley Bates, though others wanted to return to Blyth itself which would have been a safer option, however efforts were made to return to Hartley Bates. On attempting to land there, they were inundated by the huge waves and the steersman was badly injured. Without steerage the boat broke in two and the men cast into the sea, all 28 suddenly fighting the sea for their lives. On shore at least 2000 people had gathered and witnessed the spectacle. It is said that people on shore saw fathers, sons and brothers perish in the storm just a few yards from shore. Some individuals were almost saved, but in the end only 2 of the 28 were saved! Nine of the 28 were men of Blyth. It was discovered that the life boat was not built to specification, made of elm with iron fixings instead of wainscot and copper bolts as contracted.

It seems that losses at sea took place regularly off the east coast. John Wallace's book The History of Blyth lists a number of them from 1673 through to 1869.

Sometimes too, bits and pieces turn up on Ebay that shed a light on past tragedies. I recently bought a post card of such an event, the sinking of the 'Clitus' on April 15th 1908 when 5 hands were lost and 7 were saved.

Philip

Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: HenryWood on Thursday 24 November 11 18:16 GMT (UK)
Many people over the years have drowned in the vicinity of what might be called Blyth Bay. There were also a number of tragedies one of which involved the Blyth Lifeboat. April 7th 1810 started off as a dead calm day, but a sudden storm blew up. Many local fishing boats were caught up in what was to become a disaster. Several boats got into difficulty. At Blyth the lifeboat was launched with a crew of 17 men off Hartley Bates. They rowed out to the cobles in distress and rescued 11 men including their tackle! They were making for land back at Hartley Bates, though others wanted to return to Blyth itself which would have been a safer option, however efforts were made to return to Hartley Bates. On attempting to land there, they were inundated by the huge waves and the steersman was badly injured. Without steerage the boat broke in two and the men cast into the sea, all 28 suddenly fighting the sea for their lives. On shore at least 2000 people had gathered and witnessed the spectacle. It is said that people on shore saw fathers, sons and brothers perish in the storm just a few yards from shore. Some individuals were almost saved, but in the end only 2 of the 28 were saved! Nine of the 28 were men of Blyth. It was discovered that the life boat was not built to specification, made of elm with iron fixings instead of wainscot and copper bolts as contracted.

It seems that losses at sea took place regularly off the east coast. John Wallace's book The History of Blyth lists a number of them from 1673 through to 1869.

Sometimes too, bits and pieces turn up on Ebay that shed a light on past tragedies. I recently bought a post card of such an event, the sinking of the 'Clitus' on April 15th 1908 when 5 hands were lost and 7 were saved.

Philip
Thank you so much, Philip, for another fascinating post. I'm a long lost Blyth lad and I doubt if I'll ever get back there again due to personal circumstances. Posts such as yours stir something inside of me and I keep searching and searching for I do not really know what. I sometimes feel like Wagner's "Flying Dutchman", constantly sailing all over the Internet in search of Blyth stories and information and never managing to reach home port.

Thank you, and please keep up the very good work, all of you.

Henry
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: HenryWood on Thursday 24 November 11 18:27 GMT (UK)
And p.s. Philip,
Thanks for the note about John Wallace's book - I've just ordered it from Amazon.

Cheers,
Henry
Title: Re: Bathing accident at Blyth 1914
Post by: Phodgetts on Wednesday 04 January 12 09:10 GMT (UK)
Are you enjoying Wallace's book Henry?

P
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My granddad Joe Hall  from Newsham and his brother and 4 other friends all miners used to swim with these others who were lost at sea, they went every day winter and summer never missing a day normally they used to go out the1 mile bouy and back, but they all had to work a double shift that fatefull day and they missed their swim.
The 6 never ever went swimming after that day. He would not talk about it and tried to stop me and my brother from ever going into the sea at Blyth.
In 1975 I got into trouble whilst swimming at Blyth and if I had not called for my dog (an Alsation who was sitting waiting for me at the waters edge)to help me get back in to the shore I would of been a gonner that day. I have never been in the water at Blyth since that day. The currents are very very strong in places just off shore...........