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Title: Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents
Post by: Quilter Fran on Friday 20 November 09 06:40 GMT (UK)
Q 1, When the father's occupation is listed in a marriage cert, can we presume he is still alive at time of marriage?
Q 2, Are middle names left out of documents such as in listings of workhouse inmates?

Thanks,
Fran
Title: Re: Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents
Post by: Lady Di on Friday 20 November 09 07:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Fran,

To put it simply - NO to both questions.  ;D

I have a father name mentioned on a marriage cert, with his occupation listed, and I have the father's death cert that predates the marriage.

I also have workhouse records where a middle name has been recorded.

Don't think that's what you wanted to hear though!

Di

Title: Re: Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents
Post by: Finder on Friday 20 November 09 10:14 GMT (UK)
on my grandfathers marriage certificate it has both of the fathers names but one of them has "Deceased" in brackets under the name, which was quite a surprise due to the fact very little is known about this fellow

bit of trivia, on my grandfathers will it has another middle name I never knew he had

James
Title: Re: Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents
Post by: charlotteCH on Saturday 21 November 09 06:23 GMT (UK)
Fran... No to both, as Di says.

You may find the father named and he may be alive or dead.

charlotte
Title: Re: Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents
Post by: Roobarb on Tuesday 24 November 09 22:50 GMT (UK)
My gt grandfather was given a middle name when he was christened (his grandfather's name) but I have not found any evidence of it being used after that - he was married twice but it wasn't on either marriage cert, or on his death cert. I think it's just pot luck whether middle names are used in official records.
Title: Re: Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 24 November 09 23:07 GMT (UK)
I think it all depends if the vicar asked the question " fathers name occupation and is he still alive"......or if the couple actually said my fathers name is *** but he's dead.

If no one mentioned anything then the vicar would just presume.

Carol