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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: Yegvard on Thursday 19 November 09 12:44 GMT (UK)
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Hi Folks,
In 1859 Harriet EADES married Samuel LAUGHER. (Harriet's parents were Joseph EADES and Ann WILLIAMS, married 1828.) Harriet came to an untimely end when she was murdered by her daughter Sarah Ann BROOMFIELD in 1901. This was, I think, Harriet's second marriage. (Care needs to be taken as there were two Harriet EADES baptised in 1830!
A Henry EADES married, in 1857, Sarah Ann LAUGHER, daughter of Robert LAUGHER and Mary PINFIELD.
I seem to have connections both above and below Harriet's marriage, via HANDS and PINFIELD, who are themselves inter-connected.
What might you know about any of this, please?
Thank you kindly folks
Mike
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Hi Yegvard 8)
I have some background information courtesy of some research I did a few years ago looking for my family.
Harriet Eades married Samuel Laugher on the 20th December 1859 - registered at Bromsgrove. Samuel was a nailer at crabmill. His father Richard was also a nailer, as was Harriet.
Witnesses to the marriage were: Benjamin Laugher, Sarah Laugher and Joseph Rose.
Harriet and Samuel had a daughter Sarah, who married Reuben Broomfield.
In 1902 Sarah (the daughter) bludgeoned her mother Harriet to death with a nailing hammer, and then committed suicide by drinking poison.
You mention a second Harriet Eades baptised in 1830. She was the daughter (6th child) of James Eades and Mary (Unknown) and was baptised on the 29th August 1830.
They lived in Apes Dale near Licky, Bromsgrove and were also nailors.
There is a tragic relationship between these two segments of the Eades family. This second Harriet - daughter of James and Mary - had an elder sister Charlotte who was baptised on the 29th December 1822. Charlotte married Joseph Pearcy on the 25 January 1841.
Sometime around the turn of the century when Charlotte and Joseph were pensioners with a small shop selling matches, sweets and cigarettes, she was bludgeoned to death with an axe, in her shop, by a deranged Frenchman. :o
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Hi,
Thanks for the note. Looks likes the EADES weren't a lucky family.
Did you get back any further generations with the EADES? I know my Harriet's parents were Joseph and Ann.
Mike
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Hi Vegvard,
Not really as this line was not my immediate family. There is a possibility that Joseph's parents were a Joseph and Mary Eades.
Their children were:
John 30.12.1791
William 30.12.1791
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Hi Vegvard,
Not really as this line was not my immediate family. There is a possibility that Joseph's parents were a Joseph and Mary Eades.
Their children were:
John 30.12.1791
William 30.12.1791
James 27.11.1793 who died early
Joseph 28.2.1796 (This may be Harriett's father)
Cecily 23.2.1800
Jervis 26.6.1803
James 26.6.1803 (more twins)
Harriet had an older brother, John, born 21.1.1829
As I said - this is only a possible link and you need to check.
(Sorry for the "finger" trouble when posted only a few of the children)
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Thanks again for your trouble. Every Little Helps as the advert say.
It's not my main line either, but certain names just keep popping up. Another EADES turned up on Friday. A 'Phebe' EADES, born 1740, looks like being the grandmother of Hannah MANNING who married John HANDS in 1835.
I have no idea of the link, yet, to either Harriet EADES or Henry EADES.
Thanks again, and if you have any more sourced snippets, you know where to find me.
Mike
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my mom is part of the laugher family one member of my family did research which took us back to sarah and harriet x
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Hi Kaleigh,
A lot of my LAUGHER information came from a contact, however, I have a good deal of PINFIELD and some EADES information. I have still not been able to connect the 2 EADES familes.
Do you want to continue the research? Any photographs you wish to share would be most welcome.
Mike
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Good evening,
My husband is related to the Laugher family in Bromsgrove & we saw the sad story of Harriet Laugher & her step daughter Sarah Ann Broomfield on the British Newspaper Archive site last night. Having spent an interesting few hours researching the family today on line - a click onto Roots chat earlier could have saved me time!!
I believe that Samuel Laugher had a previous marriage to Jane ?Franks and that Harriet was his second wife (20 years age difference).
I believe that Harriet had a sister was called Emma and was married to a Luke Dipple (another name of my husbands family - ?any connection); a sister Alice (18340, a brother John (1838); and a sister Carolin (1840).
Any further information would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I just had to throw this in.
Josiah Eades born Birminham c1739 married Elizabeth Kendal 27th April 1761 at Harborne,Staffs and they had Joaeph Eades born c1750 Birmingham ... birth detail not found.
Joseph fits into my Australian family tree as below;
Joseph enlisted as a private in the NSW Corp on 25 June 1789 and embarked on the transport ship "Surprize" on 13 November 1789 with his wife Catherine, and three young children, Ann, May & Joseph, arriving in Sydney on 28 June 1790.
The family had been living at Birmingham the previous year. A daughter born to the couple in the colony on 4 December 1792 was baptised Elizabeth on the 26 December 1792. Joseph Eades was granted 25 acres at Petersham Hill on 3 December 1794 as confirmed by his mention on a list of all grants and leases of land registered in the Colonial Secretary's office. The land was probably sold soon afterwards (it was offered for sale by Simeon Lord in August 1804). Another daughter born in May 1795 was baptised Viana Brakenrig Eades at Sydney on 25 December 1795.
Joseph Eades was buried at Sydney on 24 January 1796 aged 27 years, having drowned in Sydney Harbour the day before. Collins wrote that he had fallen from a rock into the water while cutting rushes for a thatched roof of the hut in which he lived with his wife and five small children. Collins wrote that he was "a quiet man and a good soldier". see "The Second Fleet, Britain's Grim Convict Armada of 1790" by Michael Flynn 1993 p257.
So what led Joseph to join the police corps bound for Australia?. It seems his time might well have been spent in America if it weren't for the American War of Independence. Thus the war altered the course of history for his descendants-to-be in Australia.
To explain. in the same book there is a note that Collins thought that Joseph Eades may have been the man of the same name sentenced at the Old Bailey to 3 years hard labour on the hulks and discharged from the Thames hulk "Justitia" on 12 June 1787, some details contributed by C.Mavin & N.Latta whose research identified the Eades family baptisms in England.
A letter from Julie Lockman contains the following from another Eades researcher.
"Joseph Eades was convicted in England at the Middlesex Sessions for burglary in the dwelling house of John Smith, and stealing a gelding valued at 23 guineas. For this he received the death sentence, commuted to 14 years deportation to America. The crime was committed 23 January 1786. Because of the War of Independence in America, he served some time, three odd years in limbo on the prison hulk 'Justinia' and was discharged to join the NSW Corps...enlisted by Captain Hill".
From details of the Old Bailey Sessions themselves, it seems Joseph's crimes of stealing occured on the night of 10 July 1782, and a 'gracious pardon' from death by His Majesty on 11 September 1782 was 'on the annexed condition' of 'being transported to America for fourteen years from the time of their respective respites.'
In some cases as indeed may have occurred for Joseph, an original sentence is withdrawn because the prisoner agreed to serve, or a defendant who has been sentenced to death was pardoned on condition of service. After spending three years aboard a hulk, joining such service in the guise of the Police Corps headed for Australia might well have been an opportune moment for Joseph to lead his family away from England to a different life in a foreign land.
Joseph may have previously married Elizabeth Smith on 27 December 1778 in Aston Juxta Burmingham. Warwickshire England. This marriage has not been proven however and no children can be found in the IGI for this couple.
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My husband is related to the Laugher family in Bromsgrove & we saw the sad story of Harriet Laugher & her step daughter Sarah Ann Broomfield on the British Newspaper Archive site last night. Having spent an interesting few hours researching the family today on line - a click onto Roots chat earlier could have saved me time!!
I believe that Samuel Laugher had a previous marriage to Jane ?Franks and that Harriet was his second wife (20 years age difference).
I believe that Harriet had a sister was called Emma and was married to a Luke Dipple (another name of my husbands family - ?any connection); a sister Alice (18340, a brother John (1838); and a sister Carolin (1840).
Hi,
A few years down the line and I can confirm Samuel did marry Jane FRANKS, 10th June 1832, at St. Johns, Bromsgrove. They had 5 children, as above. Then he had 3 more children before marrying Harriet, and 5 afterwards.
I've no DIPPLE or LAUGHER ancestors, but both lines nudge up against my HANDS tree. Another example would be Mary INGRAM who married first Thomas LAUGHER in 1818 and then after he died in 1823, Richard PINFIELD in 1824.
I only have a portion of the huge and complex LAUGHER line. Nothing on DIPPLE and shed loads on HANDS and PINFIELD.
Mike
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Good Day,
Just reading all of this and I think I’ve found family.
First, I’m Alfred Laugher.
So, I’ve been doing research where my Great Grandfather was from.
His name was Sandy Laugher. Born in 1896.
His parents were Joseph Periecher (Pearcy?) and Jane(?) -Not sure her maiden name.
What I’m wondering is that, did Joseph emigrate to Canada after his late wife passed on?
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What I want to know is where I come from. It’s been the longest mystery for us family.
My late grandfather, Charles Laugher had no clue who his grandparents were.
My great Grandparents were Sandy Laugher. Married Harriett Mason.
Sandys parents were Joseph periecher (Pearcy?) and Jane. (Samuel and Harriet’s daughter?)
According to my research, Joseph and Jane had 7 children.
Martha (married Thomas Farmer)
Catherine
Eva
Elice
Madeline
Francis
Sandy Laugher
Sandy Laugher served in World War 1.
We only have 2 photos of Sandy.
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Hi Alfred,
Please could you give some dates and places of marriage and births.
Mike
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Looks like Canadian connection to me Mike.
Laugher, Sandy, Norway House, enlisted at Norway House, 1 May 1915.
Occupation: Unknown. Military Service: Private, Reg. No. 235018, 203rd Overseas Bn., “Winnipeg Rifles”
Trish :)
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No dates available. I’ve just known that Sandy was born in 1896.
I had a hard time researching. I’ve found that Martha Farmer was his sister through his enlistment.
He states both parents weren’t alive before he was 20.
I found an old census at our local school with Martha Farmer (nee. pierecher)
That’s how I found out that Joseph and Jane were their parents.
Then researching more of Joseph and Jane, they had more children.
Jane should have been born in 1850/1851 as she listed her date of birth 50 in the 1901 census.
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Hi,
I'm not sure how this fits.
Samuel LAUGHER married Jane FRANKS 10 June 1832, Bromsgrove.
Their daughter, Jane, was the last of five children, born in the second quarter of 1849. Her mum dies 20th January 1850.
Samuel's second marriage, to Harriet EADES, was on the 20th December 1859 in Bromsgrove. As far as I know Harriet had eight children none of whom were called Jane.
My connection to the family is via Harriet's 5th child, Emily, who married James HANDS.
Mike
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Hi,
In the 1861 census for Bromsgrove there were some extra children in the Samuel LAUGHER household. (Remember Jane FRANKS died in 1850.)
John aged 9
Sarah Ann aged 4
Using FreeBMD there were births for a John EADES - Q4 1852 and Sarah Ann EADES Q3 1857.
Using the "All" selection feature there was also a Q2 birth 1854 and a Q3 death 1855 for a Caroline EADES.
Were these also Samuel's children? Harriet had declared herself a Spinster at her marriage in 1859.
Mike
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This daughter, Jane. Was there any records of where she might have went?
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Hello Mike,
have you been able to go further back for Joseph Eades (who married Ann Williams) since this thread started (all those years ago)?
I was looking at this line the other day, to see if it might connect with some Eades on the fringes of some lines I'd been looking into.
I didn't come up with anything conclusive and seemed to go in a few circles, as you do :).
In 1840 Ann Eades marries Thomas Wakeman, on the 1841 census Harriet Eades and some other Eades children are in the same household, living in Bromsgrove.
Found 2 possible burials for Joseph Eades,
the first one in 1831 aged 27, at Bromsgrove;
the 2nd one in 1835 aged 30 at Belbroughton.
Based on the baptisms of the children (some of them only say Ann's name), then the 1831 burial is the more likely, which would give a birth date c1804.
There are 2 Joseph Eades (of a similar age to the one who married Ann), both with a wife Mary, on the 1841 census, the one in Bromsgrove is aged 45, so he's probably the one baptised in the 1790s.
The other Joseph Eades lives in Fairfield, he's aged 35 according to the census, and his wife is Mary Tranter.
So I thought this 'younger' Joseph was likely/possibly the one baptised in Belbroughton to Joseph and Mary Eades in 1808.
Anyway I didn't find a baptism for the Joseph who married Ann, and wondered if you had?
Lisa
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Hi Alfred,
Sorry for the delay, house and family got in the way.
Unfortunately there appear to be a number of possibilities. The solution to which in all cases would be an actual marriage certificate, which would give her father.
There are many trees on Ancestry with suggested outcomes, none of which are definitive. Here are the best of the ones I looked at:
- Jane LAUGHER married Willian WILLETTS, Q1 1864 somewhere in the Alcester registration district, which covers Worcestershire and Warwickshire. The 1871 claims they are in Warrington, Lancashire, however that Jane was born in Warrington.
- Same marriage but moved to Dudley area
- The was a Jane LAW in the 1871 in Bromsgrove. She was a housemaid in the Collegiate School School in New Road
- Whilst not excluding (3) there was an 1875 marriage in Hammersmith, London, to Henry SANDOM(N). Worryingly her name slides to Jane Maria
So you see the need for a certificate.
Cheers
Mike
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Hi Lisa,
Sorry I've not tried to expand any further. You might try using FreeREG. Put in to the search engine EADES: Joseph: 1750: 1850: All types: Worcestershire. You should get 18 results.
Select by pressing the View button. You should get a full transcription.
Try to match Abodes with census addresses. (Note the 1811 and 1821 census for Bromsgrove only gives heads of households).
Cheers
Mike