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Title: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Wednesday 18 November 09 14:21 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Traynor born Tullow, CARLOW May 1881....can anyone let me know if the records are either on-line or if there is ay I can find this information?

THanks, Nicola
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 18 November 09 14:28 GMT (UK)
Irish Civil records are not available online but you can search the index to these at the familysearch Irish Civil Index at : http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347

If you find a promising match you can order certs from the GRO (http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm) using the index details from the above - they require name, record type (e.g. birth) year/quarter, registration district, volume & page



Shane
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: tomasmac on Thursday 19 November 09 11:16 GMT (UK)
Have you tried the parish priest in Tullow for baptism records for Traynor's in Tullow.Tommy
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Thursday 19 November 09 12:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the replies.  I am not sure how to find the parish priest in Tullow Carlow?  I have emailed a site that for Tullow asking if they can point me in the right direction.

Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: tomasmac on Thursday 19 November 09 13:24 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: finglaspete on Friday 20 November 09 00:11 GMT (UK)
Hi there
I'm sure that the thomas traynor that you refer to is the one that has a statue of him in tullow itself and was a soldier in the struggle for irish freedom.
I'm sorry but i cannot find an answer to your question. But I have a suggestion. Usually the local library would hold more detailed info on local heroes etc. Maybe you could start by giving tullow library a shout;
TULLOW LIBRARY
Link Road, Tullow
WE ARE OPEN:
Mon: 2:00pm to 5:15pm
Tues, Thurs & Fri: 9:45 to 5:15pm
Wed: 9:45am to 8:15pm
Sat: 10:00am to 1:00pm
Phone: 059-9136299

hope that helped.
all the best
pete
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: tomasmac on Friday 20 November 09 07:59 GMT (UK)
Where in Tullow is the statute of Thomas Traynor,Tommy
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 November 09 08:14 GMT (UK)
link to a page which has a photo of the statue that pete mentioned..

  http://www.igp-web.com/Carlow/TRAYNOR.htm

more details and photos on Thomas at these links  :

  http://www.tullowtown.com/pagPhotoGallery.htm
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Traynor



Shane
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Friday 20 November 09 08:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks to you both.

I found these links and info - and also old newspaper articles about what happened at the time - it is such an amazing (and sad) story) - the papers talk about his family but ay his mother 'Mrs Traynor' which is not very helpful!!

He was execcuted by hanging on 25 April 1921....and buried in the groundsof mount joy prison.  He was (his body) eventually released in 2001 and was given a state funeral.

I am trying to find a link to my Trainor family (also from Ireland)....my dad remembers as a child being told that a relative was 'murdered' by hanging in Mountjoy prison.....when he told me this I started to search and found Thomas.

I am now on a mission to find the family connection!

Thanks, Nicola
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 November 09 09:13 GMT (UK)
I presume you have already seen the possible match for his birth in 1882,  (there is none in 1881) :

 Name: Thomas Traynor
 Registration district: Carlow
 Record type: BIRTHS
 Registration date - quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1882
 Volume: 3 / Page: 425



Shane
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Friday 20 November 09 10:48 GMT (UK)
Shane

I did see this yes and ordered the certificate.  I am also trying to locate his marriage so that I can then match up to see if it is the same person.  I am also taking a guess on the marriage record at this stage.   I have also contacted Tullow and Carlow libraries so I am progressing.

Thanks, Nicola
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 November 09 12:01 GMT (UK)
based on the census (Elizabeth & all children born Dublin City ) I'd say the marriage for Thomas was in Dublin - found this possible match :

 Name: Thomas Traynor
 Registration Dist. : Dublin South
 Record type: Marriage
 Qtr/Year : Apr - Jun 1902
 Volume: 2 /  Page: 681

 Name: Elizabeth Davis
 [same index details]



Shane
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Friday 20 November 09 12:10 GMT (UK)
Wow thanks Shane!

This is really appreciated.
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: finglaspete on Friday 20 November 09 19:04 GMT (UK)
hi
amazing to think that you contact this forum and didn't know that there was a statue of him in tullow, another truly success story for this website!
Just looking at the census for 1911, there are absolutely no traynors in the county of carlow. Would his family had moved elsewhere shortly after his birth?
Also one thing worth considering, is that like other parts of co.carlow, the civil parishes are sometimes registered as a place outside the county, like where my relatives are in clonegal,to see their birth records you must look under shillelagh, in co.wicklow. I only say this as tullow is one of those towns that is not that far from another county border.
I also say this because, according to wikipedia, thomas was born 27 may 1881, that i would say that the civil birth that shane gave you was a year later?
I too have looked at the family search pilot and there is only one TT from carlow around that time, which is the 1882 one, though there is another that fits the age criteria and that is
william thomas traynor
april-june 1881
dublin south
volume 2 page 767


Hope this has helped
all the best
pete
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Friday 20 November 09 20:04 GMT (UK)
HI Pete

The family moved to Dublin - this is where he married and lived. 

Thanks for the 1881 William Thomas information.....as this may be the connection.   My ancestor was also callled William Thomas Trainor....and was born 1880 (I think that they may have been cousins)...I will keep searching and hopefuly find the way to the link

Thanks so much everyone...I love this website!  If anyone wants any England Wales, Scotland census or BMD let me know as I have access to most of them!
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: minnyshell on Sunday 22 November 09 20:08 GMT (UK)
I am also related to Thomas Traynor.He was my great granduncle..I live in Dublin.There are lots of Traynor family.I am sure the bits your missing can be filled in.Regards michelle
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: njh on Monday 23 November 09 07:53 GMT (UK)
Michelle

Thanks for the post - I will send you a personal message
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: tomdog on Friday 05 March 10 13:29 GMT (UK)
there are records in the community centre in tullow which is just a few yards away from the chapel.there are registers of marriage and birth records ,the original books can be seen..
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: minnyshell on Friday 05 March 10 14:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks a mill. Just trying to find out if Thomas Traynor was born in that area.
Michelle
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: ailbhe on Wednesday 27 April 11 15:04 BST (UK)
Hi, My mother was a Traynor, her father Michael's father was also a Thomas Traynor. They were from Aughrim, Co. Wicklow.  My mothers brother Joseph Traynor was shot dead in Croke Park on Bloody Sunday 1920.
I too have wondered about Thomas Traynor, Tullow. Has anyone any information on who his parents were, and did he have a Wicklow connection?  as Tullow is close enough to the Wicklow border.  ???
Title: Re: birth records Tullow Carlow?
Post by: ailbhe on Tuesday 31 May 11 17:24 BST (UK)
My Mother was a Traynor. Her brother Joseph Traynor was one of the fourteen shot dead in Croke Park on Bloody Sunday 1920.  My grandfather Michael Traynor son of another Thomas Traynor was from Aughrim Wicklow.   Refrences were made in the family that there was a connection to the Carlow family.

Thomas Traynor (Carlow) is listed in the 1901 and 1011 census in Dublin. He was a bootmaker.  At the time of his death he was living at Ceants Forth, Mount Brown.