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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Northamptonshire => England => Northamptonshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: naomi2 on Wednesday 18 November 09 12:20 GMT (UK)
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Hi all,
Looking for a Birth and Death of William Henry Rose Cox in Northamptonshire.
Born around the 1860s
Died before 1909
Possible marriage 1885 Brixworth
Wifes name either Sarah or Jane or both?
Thanks for any help.
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Hi
Welcome to rootschat :)
There is a birth Dec qtr 1859 Brixworth 3b 108
Death Brixworth June qtr 1862 3b 75
as per freebmd by searching Cox - William Henry R
so there is obviously another one ??? Do you have him on census ?
I can't see the marriage you are referring to on freebmd in 1885 Brixworth.
Rosie
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Thanks Rosie,
The birth in 1859 seems to match OK.
I got a bit mixed up with the name of his wife.
He married Priscilla Denton in 1889. in Northampton.
But still can`t find his death. Cannot find anything on the Census .
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Hi
I think the death I gave you in 1862 is this William Henry Rose Cox. Do you have the marriage certificate for him and Priscilla Denton?
Rosie
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1901
RG13/1425/96/34
william.h.r.cox age 37. b. moulton,northants. occ. plasterers labourer. head
priscilla age 37. b. northants. wife
william.g.r. age 11. b. ditto. son
catherine.m. age 9. b. ditto. daughter
rose.e. age 8. b. ditto. daughter
john age 6. b. ditto. son
henry age 4. b. ditto. son
living at;20,cooper street,st.sepulchre,northampton
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1891
RG12/1196/117/24
william cox age 26. b. moulton. occ. bricklayers labourer. head
priscilla age 25. b. northants. wife
william.j. age 1. b. ditto. son
living at;st.sepulchre,northampton
i know the age is a bit out for him being born 1859
but maybe the 1859 birth is the one for the william cox who died in 1862
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Hi
There is a birth registration for a William Henry Cox at Brixworth reg dist 3b 134
I wonder if the next child after William Henry Rose Cox having died in 1862 was named after him without the 'Rose'
Rosie
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here is the william posted
1871
RG10/1495/72/10
william cox age 65. b. moulton. occ. stone mason. head
catherine age 53. b. great biling,northants. wife
sarah age 20. b. moulton. occ. lacemaker. daughter
martha.e. age 18. b. ditto. occ. lacemaker. daughter
william.h.r. age 7. b. ditto.son
living at; high street,moulton,northants
reg.dist. brixworth
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Hi Wozzel,
Thank very much this is definitely the right one as I have the sons and daughters already.
Thank you all for your help.
Regards Naomi2
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the family posted in 1871 had a son in 1861 named henry.w..?.cox
1861
RG9/949/105/7.
william cox age 56. b. moulton. occ. mason. head
catherine age 43. b. great billing. occ. lacemaker. wife
sarah age 10. b. moulton. daughter
elizabeth.m. age 8. b. ditto. daughter
henry.?.w. age 1. b. ditto. son
living at; moulton,northants
reg,dist. brixworth
maybe this henry is the cox death in 1862
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did you want me to go back and find william cox senior baptism and parents
i have the baptism index c.d.for the whole of northamptonshire 1751-1843
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if as you say the 1901 family is yours then william did not die before 1909
he is on the 1911 census in northampton with wife priscilla and children catherine,rose,john,henry
also other possible children are
priscilla born 1904
annie born 1906
edith maud born 1901
i do not know for sure if the last 3 are in the same household
but i do know they are living with a priscilla cox
would need to look at the actual image to be sure
and you have to pay for that
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just to round off the censuses here he is in 1881
1881
RG11/1564/74/13
catherine cox age 63. b. great billing. occ. lacemaker. head(wid)
william age 17. b. moulton. occ. bricklayers labourer. son
living at; 5,wards row,moulton,northants
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and here is the fathers death
name; william cox
y.o.r. 1872
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; brixworth
vol; 3b
page;80
age at death; 66
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Hi Naomi. :)
It is good to see all the help you are being given.
The family are as follows .
William 48, Priscilla 47, Catherine 19, Rose 18, John 16,
Henry 14, Edith Maud 10, Priscilla 7, Annie 5,
and a niece Minnie Ward 15, born Moulton.
On the links at the bottom of my replies Alan does look ups
from most of his indexes free and would more than likely
give you more than we are allowed to display here.
Northants Anc. http://www.northants-familytree.net
Sandy
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Hi again Naomi.
In 1928 William is noted in a Town Directory as living in Colwyn Road.
That is near the Racecourse.
On free bmd there is a death of a William Cox in Northampton in 1932.
Although his age means he would have been slightly younger
as he is buried in Billing Road and noted as being of Wantage Rd
do you think he is a possibility.
Sandy
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here is william senior in 1851
HO107/1742/325/31
william cox age 44. b. moulton. occ. stone mason. head
catherine age 33. b. great billing. occ. lacemaker. wife
sarah age 5mnths. b. moulton. daughter
living at; moulton,northants
living next door is
martha cox age 69. b. moulton. occ. ----? lacemaker.(wid)
william (looks like) hallens. age. 63. b. moulton. occ. ?. brother
alice. ----? age 59. b. moulton. occ. ----?lacemaker(wid)
martha cox age 27. b. moulton. occ. lacemaker. daughter(unm)
mary ann cox age 14. b. moulton. occ. lacemaker. grand daughter
martha aged 69 possibly mother of william aged 44
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think this is william in 1841 age out a bit though
1841
HO107/810/6/folio missing/1.
martha cox age 60. occ. lacemaker
william cox age 30. occ. mason
elizabeth cox age 25
martha cox age 15
mary ann cox age 4
living at;stocks hill street,moulton
all born in county
seems to confirm that martha is his mother
wonder if the elizabeth cox is his first wife(or could be his sister)
and that he married catherine after 1841
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the only marriage i can see that might be his is
name; william cox
y.o.r. 1848
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist. northampton
vol; 15
page; 627
on the same page amongst others; catherine rose
will have a look for mary ann age 4 on 1841 will look for her baptism
if it says parents william and elizabeth then i think we can take it that william married twice and mary ann is a daughter from 1st marriage
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Hi Wozzel,
Thanks again for your help. It is the right family, I got mixed up with the death before 1909.
it was another William I`m looking for on another thread for the Smith side.
Regards Naomi2.
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this is the only one that could possibly be her
interestingly the smith name crops up here
mary ann smith cox daughter of elizabeth(single woman)
bapt on the 30/12/1838 at moulton church of england
taken from the baptism index of northants 1813-1843
www.northants-familytree.net
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Naomi, to add to some info already given.
From the Northants Marriage Indexes.
Great Billing
08 Oct 1848
William COX otp, bachelor, full age, mason, father John, labourer to
Catharine ROSE otp, spinster, full age, father William, labourer
Sandy
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More than likely parents of William.
From the N.M.I.
Moulton
28 Jan 1806
John COX otp, single to Martha MALLARD otp, single
Sandy
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here is the martha cox aged 14 on 1841 census
martha cox daughter of john/martha cox baptised on the 15/2/1824 at moulton church of england
fathers occ; labourer
and also elizabeth aged 25 on 1841
elizabeth cox daughter of john/martha bapt on the 7/11/1813 at moulton church of england
so it looks like the elizabeth on the 1841 census was a sister of william and not a wife and mary ann is her child possibly
and to round it off here is williams baptism
william cox son of john/martha bapt on the 11/1/1807 at moulton church of england
www.northants-familytree.net
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Hi,
This is great, thank you all again for your amazing help.
Regards naomi2
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William Henry Cox is showing in the 1901 Census as resident in St Sepulchre Northampton but I cannot find a death notice for him
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I had forgotton about the thread until the last posting.
Welcome to Rootschat jashepp. :)
Priscilla Cox wife of William was buried at Kingsthorpe Cemetery.
Died Nov 27th 1922, buried 1st Dec 1922 in grave F 8308.
Priscilla was noted as living at 24 Colwyn Road, aged 57.
Sandy
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Thank you for this information I will add it to my research
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Hi Naomi2, William Henry Rose Cox was my great grandfather.
He was the son of William Cox (b. c1805), believed son of John Cox and Catherine Rose, (b, c1819) daughter of William and Martha Rose. William, I believe, died in Moulton and was buried at Moulton on 12th September 1872. William and Catherine were married at Great Billing on 8th October 1848.
Their son William Henry Rose Cox was born around 1864 believed at Moulton.
He married Priscilla Denton at St. Peters Church, Weston Favell (now a suburb of Northampton) on 3rd April 1889. Priscilla was the daughter of George Denton.
Their first child, William George Rose Cox was born in Northampton on 14th March 1890. He died on 19th October 1974 at home in Northampton.
I too have been unable to confirm the death of William Henry Rose but will continue in my research until i can.
I should also mention that William H.R. was my great grandfather and William G.R. my grandfather.
Kind regards
Michael B. Cox
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Hi Mick,
I live in Germany and doing this research with my brother in Leicester(with the aid of Skype)
William henry Rose was also our Great Grandfather.(Died around 1940 Northampton)We think.
William G. R. was the brother of our Grandmother Rose Elizabeth Cox(Died 1979 Northampton)
Married to William Charles Smith in 1919.
It was very nice to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other further with our Trees.
Send me a PM. with your contact detail and we will get in touch with you.
Regards,
M.J.Nicholson.
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Hi Naomi or should I say cousin?
I've looked up W.H. and he did indeed have a sister Rose Elizabeth so I guess that make us relatives, so, nice to "meet" you.
Kind regards
Mick
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Hello Mick
I am new to this web page, only came across it by chance a day or two ago. Was looking at my Grandfathers listing on the census for 1911. Was able to find Great Grandfathers name. William Henry Rose Cox. My Father was Victor Cox born 1919. the son on Henry Cox born 1897. It would seem we share the same Great Grandfather. I knew I had found the right family when I read others peoples entries. Someone mentioned Colwyn Road. I visited as a child in the 60"s & 70's. The last time was in 1978. I always knew the House as Auntie Edie's house, that making her my Great Auntie. Many fond memories. Not been in touch with family members for many years now, as I have been living in New Zealand for years & years now. I'm hoping you will be able to help add to my family tree. This is all new & very interesting for me as I didn't even know what my Grandfathers name was till a few days ago. He died in 1947? Long before I was born, & never talked about.
Hopefully a new relative down under.
Julie Cox
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Hi Julie, how marvelous to hear from you. as you say, we are indeed from the same stock. My grandfather was William George Rose Cox, Victors brother.
I've posted the tree, as far as I've got, on line. I've called it Northamptoncoxes.
If you would like to access it let me know. i will need your email address.
I've got some pictures of a few of the Cox's including one of your father and some of our grand and great grand parents. I don't think you can add pictures on this site so if you would like to see them, I can email them to you.
I have no information about your side of the family (doesn't that sound horrible, YOUR side of the family) but I'm sure you know what I mean.
Julie my email address is (*) and if you go to www.thecoxes.f9.co.uk you will find a photo of myself and my wife Jan.
As I say, it's lovely to hear from you and if there is anything you want to know about the family you only have to ask and if I can answer you I will. If I can't, I'll try to get the answers for you.
Take care and look after yourself and we'll keep in touch,
lots of love
Michael (Mick)
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Hello Mick
I am new to this web page, only came across it by chance a day or two ago. Was looking at my Grandfathers listing on the census for 1911. Was able to find Great Grandfathers name. William Henry Rose Cox. My Father was Victor Cox born 1919. the son on Henry Cox born 1897. It would seem we share the same Great Grandfather. I knew I had found the right family when I read others peoples entries. Someone mentioned Colwyn Road. I visited as a child in the 60"s & 70's. The last time was in 1978. I always knew the House as Auntie Edie's house, that making her my Great Auntie. Many fond memories. Not been in touch with family members for many years now, as I have been living in New Zealand for years & years now. I'm hoping you will be able to help add to my family tree. This is all new & very interesting for me as I didn't even know what my Grandfathers name was till a few days ago. He died in 1947? Long before I was born, & never talked about.
Hopefully a new relative down under.
Julie Cox