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Title: Guinnane and Lyons 0f Kilcurrish
Post by: Maellen on Monday 16 November 09 15:00 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information regarding Anne Guinnane, born circa 1908, and possible siblings. Anne was residing with her uncle Michael Lyons and grandmother Margaret Lyons in Kilcurrish in 1911. Any information would be much appreciated. 
                                                     Maellen
Title: Re: Guinnane and Lyons 0f Kilcurrish
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 16 November 09 15:05 GMT (UK)
You can search index to civil registration to get the details you need for ordering her birth certificate which should list both parents (unless illegitimate) as well as exact date and place of birth.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
The census is a record of people in a particular household on 1 night so she might just have been staying with relatives that night and her parents will be not to far away.
Title: Re: Guinnane and Lyons 0f Kilcurrish
Post by: Sooheen on Monday 16 November 09 19:43 GMT (UK)
 MARGARET LYONS daughter of Michael Lyons and Margaret Fitzgibbon was born 23 Jun 1868 in Kilcurrish Fountain Ennis.  She married MICHAEL GUINANE 19 Jul 1899.  He died in Ballyduffmore Kilnamona Co Clare.
   
Children of MARGARET LYONS and MICHAEL GUINANE are:
   MARY GUINANE, b. 06 Jun 1900; m. M COTTER, 14 Feb 1926.
   MARGARET GUINANE, b. 06 Nov 1904; m. J O'KEEFFE.
   MARTIN GUINANE, b. 06 Nov 1904; m. MARY HEGARTY, 17 Mar 1933.
   ANNE GUINANE, b. 01 Aug 1907; m. ? WHELAN.
Title: Shaun Francis Guinnane from Kilkee, Clare to New Zealand
Post by: MurrayGinnane on Sunday 13 February 11 22:41 GMT (UK)
If anyone is researching the GUINNANE surname from County Clare, I have found a "loose end" in Mangere Cemetery, Auckland, New Zealand. 
I would like to place him either in or out of my family tree, --- and someone else may be wondering what happened to him?

SHAUN FRANCIS GUINNANE (officially miss-spelled SHUAN in NZ BDM !!!) apparently lived as a bachelor carpenter in South Auckland, NZ from about the mid-1950s, until he died on JULY 22nd 1984, aged 61. 
His headstone refers to 'Family in Ireland & Australia' -- perhaps he stopped off in Australia first?   A fare-paid, 'assisted immigrant'?     
It seems he may have been born in or near Kilkee, Co.Clare around 22nd May 1923.  There are still several Guinnanes living in Kilkee / Donnoughboy.

Kilkee is about 9 miles north of Rahona East, Carrigaholt where my Ginnanes come from. 
There was a Sean Guinnane playing GAA football for Dalcassians & in Ennis, Clare around 1941 to 1952 -- perhaps him?
Title: Re: Guinnane and Lyons 0f Kilcurrish
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 13 February 11 23:33 GMT (UK)
There doesn't see to be a birth registration in Ireland under that name- since N.Z. place is listed first perhaps that's where he was actually born?
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
Title: Re: Shaun Francis Guinnane of NEW ZEALAND & KILKEE
Post by: MurrayGinnane on Monday 14 February 11 01:55 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for the help & interest. 

Otara, NZ is where Shaun was living at the time of his death.
He appears on the NZ Electoral Rolls there in the late 1950s.
I haven't found any other sign of his life.   He must have rented a flat, not owned one.
Very low-profile.

In NZ there is a free website www.BDMHistoricalRecords.DIA.Govt.nz/search 
where a restricted range of BDM = BirthsDeathsMarriages info is available to anyone. 

Shaun's death [miss-spelled as Shuan] shows up there for 1984, with a birth date of 12th MAY 1923 [ note the discrepancy to the headstone, where it is given as 22nd MAY 1923]. 
But not any other GUINNANE BDMs.

And the only other genuine GUINNANE in NZ history was a visiting priest who signed the Te Aroha goldfields Hot Spa Visitors' Book in 1884, and the local newspaper duly reported it (twice). 

www.PapersPast.NatLib.Govt.nz is our free digitised, searchable newspaper & magazine resource, for anyone interested.     

I am a bit spoiled, here in NZ, with my "GINNANE" extended-family.  There were ever only two or three dozen people at a time with the related group of surname spellings  --- and I know most of them, --- except this Shaun / Sean / Shuan.   
So it bugs me, a bit.      Quite a big bit, actually. 

So there are no other appearances of Guinnane in NZ history.
 
The undertaker at Shaun's funeral collected the information that he came to NZ about mid-1950s.

I am very keen to follow this up, if you can lead me to pastures greener & foreign fields?!?

Again, many thanks from me & from everyone else too, I'm sure. 
If these records survive for a hundred years, maybe the info will be of use to someone? 

---   Murray Michael Ginnane.  Born 1950 and still in Hamilton, N.Z.    Feb 13th 2011
Title: Re: Guinnane and Lyons 0f Kilcurrish
Post by: Sooheen on Tuesday 22 February 11 20:42 GMT (UK)
I have examined the 1911 Census of Clare Ireland and I found a Ginnane family in the parish of Querrin which is the next parish to Kilkee. Querrin is situated in the Loop Head peninsila of west Clare approx 30 miles from Ennis the county town. There are 2 variations on the spelling. Guinane and Ginnane. I am related to Michael Guinane. I think he may have been born in the parish of Rath which is about 10 miles north west of Ennis. I would be very surprised if Michael Guinane is related to Shaun Ginnane who died in New Zeland.
Title: Re: Guinnane / Ginnane / Guinane of Querrin & Kilkee, etc
Post by: MurrayGinnane on Tuesday 22 February 11 21:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the note, 'Sooheen'.
I have transcribed the whole Baptism & Marriage Registers for Carrigaholt (which also covered Querrin, Cross & LoopHead, etc areas then) from 1852-1878. 

Would you like me to email you a copy?  Please 'PM = Personal Message' me, or look for my email in the Guestbook of www.Carrigaholt.net website.   

There were several Guinane / Ginnane, etc families in the area at that time, including yours at Querrin, and mine at Rahona East.

I am trying to separate them out & relate them to each other. 

Murray at Ginnane.co.nz
Title: Re: Guinnane and Lyons 0f Kilcurrish
Post by: vandammem on Friday 13 May 11 22:23 BST (UK)
For: Murray at Ginnane

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Title: NEW INFO re: Sean Francis Guinnane from Kilfearagh to Manukau, Auckland, N.Z.
Post by: MurrayGinnane on Tuesday 21 June 16 03:00 BST (UK)
I'll update my earlier post on Shaun Francis GUINNANE buried in Mangere Memorial Garden Cemetery, Manukau, Auckland, New Zealand in 1984 aged 61yrs. 
Shaun has a sister Eileen Burke(?) between Kilkee & Carrigaholt in southwest County Clare, Ireland.   Eileen has a daughter Mary Burke / Mary Bourke(?) who works at the Long Dock in West St, Carrigaholt.   Mary has Walsh children.  Shaun / Sean & Eileen had a brother in southeast Australia who left descendants.  Those Guinnane were from the townlands area of Fooagh/Foohagh / Lisluinaghan in Kilfearagh Civil Parish just southeast from Kilkee Beach.   

They will probably be related to me (& to the other 5 or 6 historic local Ginnane/Guinane families near Carrigaholt ), but not before 1800, maybe back in the early 1700s?    Murray at Ginnane.co.nz