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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: maxxangel on Friday 13 November 09 01:48 GMT (UK)
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Can you get marriage certificates for people who married pre registration period and can you get christening certificates if you know the dates and place?
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I presume you mean baptisms and marriages pre 1837. If you're lucky there might be surving church records going back to the 1600 or 1700's. Most of these were filmed in the 1980's and are listed on website www.familysearch.org Take a note of the film number and contact your local morman Church of the Latter Day Saints to organise a date to view. If they have to order the film for you there is a nominal rental charge (used to be £2.75). You'll either find your local facility in the phone directory or on this familysearch page http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp
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Hi maxxangel,
The short answer to your question is NO.
Marriage certs started with the beginning of civil registration in 1837, as I understand it. What Rena says is the way to go with pre 1837 things-
charlotte
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Another way to obtain copies of marriage and baptism entries is via the local county council record office where the event occured. Costs are usually just a couple of pounds per photocopy. Good luck.
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A certificate is a certified copy of an entry register.
This may be a certified copy of an entry in a civil register or it may be a certified copy of an entry in a parish register.
As, in the main, the only way to get a copy of an entry in a civil register is to apply for a certificate, most people use that route.
Parish registers are far more easily accessed and rather than apply for a certified copy of an entry in a parish register (certificate) most people simply view the parish register and transcribe the entry themselves.
If you want a certificate you can obtain one from the incumbent of the parish.
Cheers
Guy
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The 'nominal' charge for ordering films through FHCs is now over £7!
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Parish registers are far more easily accessed and rather than apply for a certified copy of an entry in a parish register (certificate) most people simply view the parish register and transcribe the entry themselves.
I've viewed parish registeres in local archives and there has been was a facility, on the microfiche reader to print the appropriate pages, cost about £2.50 from memory.
Lizzie
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If a pre-1837 parish register is still with the parish then the encumbant could in theory provide a certified copy of an entry. However virtually no parishes hold their registers that far back. It is unlikely that a record office will provide such a service.
David
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If you view the film in my local archives you can then print a copy on another machine. They only charge 50p per copy. Most local archives will print off for you if you know the date and details I have never heard of anyone being charged more than a few pounds if the archive staff do this for you.
Regards
Kathb
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If you view the film in my local archives you can then print a copy on another machine. They only charge 50p per copy. Most local archives will print off for you if you know the date and details I have never heard of anyone being charged more than a few pounds if the archive staff do this for you.
Regards
Kathb
Yes but that is a photocopy not a certified copy and so can't be described as a certificate which is what maxxangel was asking about.
A lot of certified copies of baptism entries were produced from 1909 onwards when they were used as evidence of birth date by people claiming the then new old age pension. As they had to be over 70 many would not have had their births registered. However very few of these have survived.
David
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Thank you everyone.
So as I understand it, you can basically get a photocopy of a baptism or marriage entry if the church has that record still. Is that right?
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If your ancestors were from a particular parish it is often better to buy microfiche copies of the parish register.
That way you have a good resource at home which you can refer to as your research grows.
For a list of County Record Offices that sell microfiche of parish registers see my website at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~framland/acts/csf.htm
Cheers
Guy
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Thank you everyone.
So as I understand it, you can basically get a photocopy of a baptism or marriage entry if the church has that record still. Is that right?
Hi,
If the parish registers survive and have deposited in the local archives - yes
The local archives of each county that you are interested in should hold copies of *surviving church records for that area (*if they have been deposited ) - These can be photocopied.
The individual churches themselves should also hold copies of the books too ( usually they have deposited the originals) . I doubt that many churches provide a photocopy service. , but with most churches you may be able to take photo's of the entries(if you ask permission of course) . I much prefer photographs to photocopies. Cost is free. If you know what church they were married in, or baptised, it's well worth visiting the church ( phone them first, many will put time aside for you at an arranged time )
Many of my pre civil marriages, births and deaths I have photo's of the entries in the books ( from the various churches that I went to)- In the archives I photocopied only.
Hope that is of some help
Kind Regards