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I am not 100% chorlton is the area that the family will be living in but thats where the family live in a lot of later information but i have been searching for Peter Farran, Mary Ann Farran, Elizabeth M Farran and possible Mary Ann Farran (she was 12 in 1961 so should hopefully be on the 1851).
I have them in 1861 with two more children but not before this point, i have searched all of them and just cannot find them ???. I have even looked on the 1851 unfilmed Manchester census site and cannot find them on there either.
Mary Ann nee Swan should be around 23, born Disley Cheshire and Peter should be 26 born Manchester.
Is it just they are one of the lost records? Thanks for any help given.
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Hi,
I think they have been transcribed as Fanara on Ancestry ::)
Reference is HO107/2221 folio 860 page 34.
Peter and Mary Ann are both transcribed as aged 24. Hard to actually tell what Peters age was - could have been 26.
Regards,
Mo
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1861 Census:
HO107 Piece:2221 Folio:860 Page:34 .
14, Stretford Street, Hulme, Manchester
FARRAND, Peter Head Married M 24 1827 Warehouseman, Manchester, Lancashire.
FARRAND, Mary Ann Wife Married F 24 1827 Manchester, Cheshire.
FARRAND, Elizabeth W Daughter F 4 1847 Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire.
FARRAND, Mary Ann, Daughter F 2 1849 Chorlton on Medlock.
Transcribed by Findmypast
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Thank you both for that, that is obviously them as Peter in 1861 is a warehouseman too! :D
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Hi, I'm researching the Farrans. I just wondered if you had any further on Peter Farran (a.k.a John Peter) and Mary Ann Swann? I'm trying to find a birth record for Peter. Thanks.
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Hi Dean, sorry i have no more information on them other than Mary Ann's death in 1870 was in Withington Workhouse where she was admitted and died within 20 hours of Typhus.
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According to the marriage his father was John Farren a Shoemaker and one of the witnesses was a George Farren.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12582-5424-98?cc=1788853&wc=MMGS-HYN:694373372
Mo
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There are two baptisms on family search that look like the same Peter:
Mosley Street removed from Cannon Street Independent, Manchester
Peter Farren
Born 21st July, 1826 Baptised 3rd September, 1826
Parents John and Elizabeth Farren
Manchester Collegiate (later the Cathedral)
Peter Farren
Born 21st July, 1826 Batised 18th May, 1834
Parents John and Elizabeth Farren
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Baptisms i haven't found but i did find John Peters burial on FindMyPast, Manchester Ardwick Cemetery Sept 7 1881, John Peter Farran age 55 of John Street C-on-M (i presume Chorlton-On-Medlock), died of consumption.
He was neither buried in a family grave or a family vault and the grave number is unlisted.
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Thank you both that's been really helpful. I'm resuming research after a gap of several years. I had a note of parents being John and Elizabeth but tracked down the wrong couple I think.
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Sorry Mosiefish i hadn't even noticed the messages were from 2 different people, i hadn't found the marriage image so thank you.
It took me a while to figure out Peter was John Peter which held up my research for a while. John Peter and Mary Ann are my 4 x great grandparents, their grandchild Harriet Ann Farran is my Grandads Grandmother.
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Well, The Manchester records with images are going online on Ancestry in February so we won`t have much time to wait to see if John on the baptisms was a Shoemaker/Cordwainer :).
This is the 1841 census:
Boundary Street, Chorlton on Medlock
Elizabeth Farron, 50, Not born in County
George, 15, Porter, Born in County
Peter, 14, Porter, Born in County
Robert, 10, Born in County
Robert was also recorded as being baptised at Mosley Street Independent 10th July, 1831 and again on the same day as Peter at the Collegiate on 18th May, 1834. (Robert born 31st May, 1831)
Mo
Just seen your post Stacey- you are very welcome :)
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I am confused as to how i've never come across the marriage record, are they new records on family search? I use that site all the time :-\
New records on Ancestry sounds good, a few brick walls may collapse :)
Thank you for the 1841 also, i am about to look them up now i am armed with new details!
Stacey
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Hi Stacey,
There are new records on familysearch but not all of them have been transcribed!
If you go to www.lancashirebmd.org.uk you should find the marriage of Peter Farren and Mary A Swan in 1846 at St. Mary, Manchester (This is St. Mary the Parsonage). If you look to the far right you should see a reference number 9/4/168. 168 is the key as that is the entry number in the parish records. As there are two marriages per page half it to 84.
Now go to https://www.familysearch.org/
Scroll down past the search boxes to "Browse by Location"
click on "United Kingdom and Ireland"
Scroll down to "England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910"
Click on this.
Scroll down past the search boxes to "Browse through 249,255 images"
Click on this and then select Lancashire.
You should now have a list of churches they have images for (not all transcribed).
Click on Manchester, St Mary`s Parsonage and select marriages 1845 - 47.
When the image opens (fully) alter the image number from 1 to 84.
Regards,
Mo
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Thank you again Mo, i will do that, i had a record of the marriage but only from BMD.
I use the images for Cheshire and Northumberland but didn't realise i could the Manchester ones too :)
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You are welcome.
By the way George Farren married the other witness Emma Booth in 1846 at Manchester Collegiate/Cathedral. :)
I can`t wait for the Ancestry records to come online as it may knock a few brick walls down for me too ...... Ever the optimist ::) I live in hope !
Mo
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Thank you (again) :D
The records will be great, hopefully.
Stacey