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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: june49 on Thursday 10 March 05 09:43 GMT (UK)
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Please could you help I have now Jess Scully's Birth certificate he was born to a Patrick and Mary Scully in 1864, at Middle Row,Gool road, Stafford. Please could someone look to see if his parents are on the 1861 census' and maybe someone could tell me where Gool road was or what it was like it sounds a bit grim thanks
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Unfortunately I haven't got acess to the 1861 census but I'm betting its Gaol Road. It is still there in Stafford because the prison is on it
Willow x
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thanks willow thats even worse gaol road :-[
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lol :)
At least they're not listed as inmates (were they?)
Willow x
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I can confirm that the Road mentioned is in fact GOAL ROAD.
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Is there a Goal Road as well as a Gaol Road? Gaol is the old spelling for jail
Willow x
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Sorry I misspelt the word. It is Gaol Road.
Handy
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Hi June
Middle Row is still in Gaol Road, it's a small bunch shops now. (I think) there are some cottages directly opposite the prison entrance but they're called Goal Mews. It's not so grim! :o
I think the cottages were originally built for the prison officers.
Gaol Road is one of the main roads (although not busy) into Stafford Town Centre.
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Hi treefreak thanks for the info thats such a help he might have been a prison officer I was sure he would be a felon thanks again ;D
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I just checked through Piece RG9/1907 - which is 300-odd pages of Stafford and couldn't find your Scully family anywhere. Some of the pages were written by the enumerator from hell of course, but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss them. :(
Sorry it's not what you wanted to hear...
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Hiya June
Just out of interest have you found them in the 1871 census? I looked but couldn't find them under Stafford
Willow x
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Hi June
When and where was Jess born? And do you know where his parents were born? What year did Jess marry?
Answers to these questions might help in finding the right people.
Many Thanks
TF
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oooooh yes I've looked on the 1871 census many times and the 1881 but he is not there the computer does not like jesse scully or jess scully or josiah sculley or sculley with any of the other combinations he turns up in 1891 and 1901 as Josiah ::)
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jess scully was born on 17/3/1864 in Stafford in middle row which was a slum dwelling someone has just e.mailed me to tell me who is doing some research into the immigrant Irish of Stafford he says that Patrick Jesse's father probably only stayed in stafford a short while, and then moved on but to where in 1883 Jess married Annie Burgees in Eccles but I still can't find out where Patrick was during 1871 census or 1881 the only Patrick who I can find who couldbe him is a Patrick Walsall foreign on 1881 and 1891
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Hi June
I've tried to find Jesse, I found him in the 1901 census with Annie and the children but can't find him anywhere else. However, you said he was born in Stafford but on the census it states he was born in HANLEY. Hanley is in Stoke on Trent, not far from Stafford but 2 completely different areas.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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1881
21 Granville St, Salford, Lancs
John WOOD head mar 50 lab in dye house b.Derb. Measham
Mary wife 40 b.Stafford Stone
Mary A dau 9 b.Salford
Selina dau 7 b.Salford
Hannah dau 4 b.Salford
Jesse SCULLY stepson unm 17 scavenger in mill b.Stafford Stafford
RG11/3974 folio 118 page 20
Casalguidi
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1871
8 West James Street, Salford
John WOOD head mar 41 machine wegger/wigger? b.Mesham Derbyshire
Mary wife 37 b.Stone Stafford
Margaret dau 13 b.Salford Lancs
Lucy dau 9 b.Salford
Josiah son 6 b.Salford
RG10/4023 folio 97 page 1
Casalguidi
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WELL DONE CASALGUIDI ;D
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Yep hats off to Casalguidi!
Willow x
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:o ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)oooh I am to shocked and pleased to say anything thankyou caslguidi
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hi all,
I am researching the Scally family in north Staffs. Until the 1891 census they were noted as Scully. They came form Roscommon around 1860 and stayed for a while at the transit camp near Litchfield.
Maybe your Patrick also changed his spelling?
Peter
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Hi Peter,My mothers side were Scalleys,,from Roscommon,John Scalley married Hannah Leese in 1874,in Stoke on Trent....Iv'e never seen their names,down as Scully,perhaps you coild get back to me!...Geraldine.