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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: averhoog_1 on Wednesday 04 November 09 17:11 GMT (UK)
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I am at a bit of a brick wall. My great grandfather Gordon Harbison was born in about 1861 in Dungall area. He married Nancy Ann McCullough in 1894 at the Cullybackey Presbyterian church, so I know his fathers name was Hugh. He also had a half brother Samuel Wilson who erected a tombstone in Kirkinriola in memory of his father James and mother Elizabeth. I know that an Elizabeth Kenny marries a Hugh Herbison on Dec 11, 1848 in Ballymena 1st presbyterian church and an Eliza Herbison marries James Wilson on 27 Feb 1868 in Wellington St Presbyterian Church. I have had no luck finding out if these are one and the same Elizabeth/Eliza and I have also had no luck finding a death entry for Hugh Harbison or a birth/baptismal entry for Gordon. The family was presbyterian and in 1851 Hugh and Elizabeth were living in Carnbeg Townland, Dunaghy Antrim. Other family members were Thomas, Sarah, Matilda and Matthew. Only Matilda and Matthew were born after Hugh/Elizabeth marriage, so I assume that Hugh had a previous marriage. If there is anyone that can help shed light on this I'd really appreciate it!
Thanks
Alison
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Hi,
IGI Record Search section of Family Search site lists a Hugh Herbison who died in 1866 in Ballymena Registration District. Vol1 Page 102. This should allow you to order a death certificate which may give more clarification.
Regards
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Hi,
IGI Record Search section of Family Search site lists a Hugh Herbison who died in 1866 in Ballymena Registration District. Vol1 Page 102. This should allow you to order a death certificate which may give more clarification.
Regards
Civil index lists him as aged 42 years.
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Elizabeth Herbison, daughter of Hugh Herbison & Elizabeth Kenny, born 25 Aug.1865 Ballymena registration district (page 114 in civil index).
(IGI- www.familysearch.org)
Added- also other 'children' in Pedigree Resources file but these particular submitted entries might not be accurate.
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Hello,
I am in search of Kenny/Kenney family from Co. Antrim, Ireland and found your post re: Kenny and Herbison. Thought you might be interested in this census Extract showing stepchildren named Herbison.
I believe James, listed as 5 years old here was my great grandfather.
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Hello: I am very interested in the census abstract you posted. There is a "Moses Paul Kenny" listed as a child. Since I have done a lot of research on the Pauls from the Ballymena area I was wondering if you know if there is a connection between the Pauls and Kennys? I have established a connection between the Pauls and Herbisons.
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Hello,
I haven't thought of looking for a connection between the Pauls and the Kennys--have been wondering where the name 'Paul' came from in Moses' name, actually. The 'Paul' was also passed down to my grandfather, Moses McLintock Paul Kenny as well as my brother, Allan Paul Kenney so this is of keen interest to me.
Sorry I can't be of more help. I will be looking into this!
Best Regards,
Sheri Kenney St. Amour
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Hi: There was a Matthew Harbison (Herbison) in Leymore townland near Ballymena who was married to Mary Paul. She had a brother named Moses Paul and this is possibly where the name comes from. I have more details but don't know what the Kenny connection is. If you post one more message I will send you a private email. (3 postings allow you to do this). Thanks.
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Hello,
I have Jane Herbison marrying John Kenny in 1840. I am confused as to whether Herbison is her maiden name as a couple of family trees have conflicting information. Could the Matthew Herbison you mention be her father? The only connection I can see to the Kennys is through this marriage.
Could you give me dates of Matthew Harbison (Herbison) and Mary Paul?
Thanks,
Sheri
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Hello: I have Matthew Herbison born approximately 1798 and died in 1875. His wife Mary born 1802 and died 1882, William Harbison present at her death. So Jane Kenny could possibly be their daughter born approx. 1820 ish?? The other possibility is that Jane Kenny was first married to a Herbison (note the stepchildren in the Kenny family named Herbison) and SHE was a Paul by birth.
Need some more clues. More on the Pauls in a PM.
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ERROR on dates for Mary Harbison- Born 1792 and died 1874. Her husband Matthew died in 1875 and in his Will it noted that he was a "Widower".
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Her husband Matthew died in 1875 and in his Will it noted that he was a "Widower".
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Matthew Harbison late of Laymore County Antrim Farmer deceased who died 1 October 1875 at same place a Widower were granted at Belfast to James Harbison of Laymore Farmer the Son of said deceased.
Date of Grant : 29 May 1876 Effects under £300
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/willsSearchResultsDetails.aspx
KG
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There was a Matthew Harbison (Herbison) in Leymore townland near Ballymena who was married to Mary Paul.
Leymore townland north-west of Ballymena
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/toome-lower/ahoghill/leymore/
KG
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Matthew Harbison and Mary Paul, were my Gr Gr Gr grandparents. Their son John married Jenny Strange from Greenhill, Glenwherry.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Their son John married Jenny Strange from Greenhill, Glenwherry.
Party 1 Name JOHN HARBISON
Party 2 Name JENNEY STRANGE
Date of Event 13 November 1861
SR District/Reg Area Ballymena
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09603/5482196.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-lower/glenwhirry/greenhill/
KG
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Thank you for posting, sgen. I am very interested in Mary Paul and was wondering if you know who her parents or brothers/sisters were? She was age 82 (born c. 1792) as given on her death registration on March 13, 1874. Her daughter Margaret Reid attending at death. Place of death- Laymore, Kirconriola, Ballymena. Cause of death- Infirmity.
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I am interested in Margaret (Jane) Harbison who fits with the age of the step daughter mentioned in the 1851 census. Her birth date is approx 1831, she married James Moore and lived in Belfast. The 1901 census finds her as Head of Household Stranocum with adult children named Moore. Her daughter (Rebecca) married a Montgomery if the family tree that I got that info from is correct.
I am actually chasing Moores but Harbisons are married into my McCurry lines. Step children are often difficult to identify so I thought to add this to the mix.
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The Margaret Herbison born c. 1830 and daughter of Matthew Herbison and Mary Paul married John REID on 25 June 1859 in 3rd Ballymena Presbyterian church, Ballymena. She died 9 July 1911 in Leymore townland.
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Not the one I seek then. Thank you for the laying it to rest. My 3 x GrandAunt, Isabella McCurry married John H*rbison in Limavady 1850.
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My 3 x GrandAunt, Isabella McCurry married John H*rbison in Limavady 1850.
Just adding the link for others-
S.R. District Newtownlimavady
John HARBISON married Isabella McCURRY - 2 December 1850 at Tamlaght-Finlagan Parish Church.
Fathers Robert Harbinson a carpenter, and Alexander McCurry a fisherman.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1850/09396/5403757.pdf
Isabella living in the townland of Carriclare [sic].
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/keenaght/tamlaght-finlagan/myroe/carrowclare/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4846562#map=12/55.0825/-6.9863
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Thank you for the additional detail. Isabella was William McCurry's sister. William was my 3 x Grandfather. B 1824. His daughter, Sarah Jane, married John Smyth, B. 1838 Mulkeeragh. Marriage 1872, also Tamlaght Finlagan. Their son was my Grandfather, Joseph Smyth. Alexander McCurry, Father to Isabella and William was born 1777 approx and married 4 times, his last wife being Ann, Mother to Isabella and William.
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Not the one I seek then. Thank you for the laying it to rest. My 3 x GrandAunt, Isabella McCurry married John H*rbison in Limavady 1850.
I looked at the 1901 census listing you mentioned and noted the children's names as Margaret, Thomas, Alexander and Rachel Moore. Trouble is, I can't seem to find their birth registrations. I did find Rebecca's marriage to a James Montgomery in 1888 in Belfast.
???
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I did find Rebecca's marriage to a James Montgomery in 1888 in Belfast.
Link to 1888 marriage-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10781/5931814.pdf
3 November 1888
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Yes, we have the right Moore family here because Ann Jane Moore is the sister (and witness)
Ann Jane remarried unmarried at the 1911 census and was living with her Brother, Thomas.
Their Mother, Margaret Jane H*rbison's marriage to James Moore eludes me so far and the Moore name is almost as bad as Smith. It will fall into place eventually.
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She died 9 July 1911 in Leymore townland.
Here she was in 1911 census with her family.
House 5 in Leymore (Kirkinriola, Antrim).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Kirkinriola/Leymore/118625/
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Thank you so much for continuing the search but Margaret Reid is not her. She is the step daughter of the earlier pages of this post. My one is the same age and name but she married James Moore and in the 1901 census is with some of her adult Moore children in Stranocum. She is listed as Margaret Jane Harbison on the record of Ann Jane Moore's birth.
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Ann Jane Moore is living with the young boy William Montgomery, presumably the son of Rebecca Moore, in the 1911 census, in the home of Thomas Moore.
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Ann Jane Moore is living with the young boy William Montgomery, presumably the son of Rebecca Moore, in the 1911 census, in the home of Thomas Moore.
Links-
1911 census
House 32 in Drumsough (Sharvogues, Antrim)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Sharvogues/Drumsough/111167/
William (then aged 13 yrs) born 20 January 1898 at 8 Jerusalem Street, Belfast
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02098/1799551.pdf
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For what it's worth: I cannot find a Margaret (Jane) Harbison marriage in N. Ireland to a Moore so I tried jumping the water to Scotland and found one possibility for you:
Margaret Herbison, her mother's surname was Davidson and she was married in 1856 in Dalry (Ayrshire). You would have to pay on the SP website to obtain details on who she married. A long shot, I know.
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Entirely feasible quite likely in my view. The older children probably born there. Thank you so much, I just wanted to make sure I had the right families. So many of my Presbyterian lines were over the water to and fro, seasonal work or family ties. If James Moore was born in Scotland, even if he just married in Scotland, I may get a lead from there to my Antrim Moores as the records are so much better. Will march on!