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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: JaniceK on Tuesday 03 November 09 22:06 GMT (UK)
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I'd like to clear up a family myth and find out if my mother-in-law's mother has been pulling her leg all these years. I was unsuccessful asking the newspapers. The story goes that Arthur Gore, born 1828 Fannistown, Wexford, Wexford, Ireland, was dallying with a young girl, the young girl's brother did not approve, caused an incident involving a hay barn, and the death of the two was the result. Now, surely, I thought, such an event would not go unremarked, but I'm afraid I don't have an approximate date. Arthur's father was John Gore, born Duncormac, and his mother was Hannah Shudall. Arthur's wife was Sarah Ann Warriner. Their last child was born in 1874 so his death would have to be after that. I'd like to know if any of this is true. Any suggestions?
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My first thought is to find date of Arthur's death and work from that fact. Checked index to civil registrations for Arthur Gore and can't see any likely entries (in Wexford or anywhere in Ireland) but perhaps you'll see something there-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
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Yes, I checked that site, too, and didn't find anything. I was wondering that there might be some newspaper archive from the last part of the 1800s that might carry a news item or something like that.
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/newspaper/np_abst19.htm
this should help
sylvia
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/newspaper/np_abst19.htm
this should help
sylvia
How? I can't see any Gore listed.
I've already checked Freeman's Journal (Dublin) but nothing found there.
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I would agree with the approach aghadowey mentioned and would look for the death first.. if something can be found there, then a more detailed search could be carried out in the newpapers.
I dont know how positive you are about Arthur's year of birth - but the closest match I see in the index in an Arthur Gore born c1805 died 1894. I think it would be unusual for a death not to be registered.
I had a look in the Irish Times archive but see nothing that matches the names or place.
do you know the name of the young girl ?
there is a death of a child named Arthur Gore in Wexford listed in 1875 ... is he connected ?
Shane
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The child Arthur born in 1874 was his son and he died in 1875. I do not know the name of the girl as the story came from my mother-in-law's mother who was the first Arthur's granddaughter. If Arthur had been born in 1805 and was fooling around with a young girl in a hay barn after the year 1874, he was a spry old gentleman. It may be that the story is entirely false. I just can't imagine this girl's brother causing 2 deaths, whether accidental or out of malice, and it not getting into the papers or into the courts.
Janice
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hello Janice ,the info was for you to use and search
sylvia
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hello Janice ,the info was for you to use and search
sylvia
I already mentioned above that your link doesn't contain any details on Arthur Gore.
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Pue'sO 1741 11 14 NPA GORE Arthur Esq John ECHLIN clerk, Arthur GORE Esq and Mary his wife – Plaintiff
Thomas MOORE, Richard MOORE and others – Defendants
... interest in lands in Birr in Kings co, and other lands in Tipperary ...
FJ 1770 7 26 NPM GORE Arthur Esq Arthur GORE os Seaview Co Wicklow, Esq to Miss Mary FLEMING daughter of
this is part of link
sylvia
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Sylvia, the Gore details from your link are for a Gore family (landed gentry or something, I think) and are not even anything to do with Co. Wexford which is where the Arthur Gore in this thread was from.
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Hi Janice. I am also researching my GORE's from Duncormic, whom I think are closely related to yours. Would love to hear from you.
Do you have contact with Peggy Kennet, or Peg Handcock, as they are both related to Arthur Gore b.1828?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Katharine.
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My Hillis family relatives still live in Fannystown House. My great aunt Elinor Hillis married WilliamWarriner.
Willing to supply any info I have.
Helen Black
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fudgelover- regarding your Report to Moderator message- you can post a reply on the other topic asking the person to get in touch (remember not to post your email address) but they haven't been online since last November so it's really just a matter of waiting to see if they sign in again.
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Hi fudgelover.
As aghadowey said, JaniceK hasn't been online for quite a while. However I do have her email address somewhere on my computer, and am in contact with another descendant of Arthur GORE and Sarah WARRINER. I a GORE descendant on another branch and am very interested in any information that you have pertaining to the GOREs in that are of the county, or anything on Arthur and his wife.
Katharine.
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oops ,i was asking if it was a part of the link
sylvia
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Katharine- I'm not sure that fudgelover was actually interested in the Gore connection but best not to give out other people's email addresses without asking their permission.
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I did read fudgelover's post as pertaining to the HILLIS and WARRINER families (not GOREs). Despite that I don't see that it is doing any harm to let her know that I am interested in any information that she comes across regarding Gore's.
Fudgelover- are you actively doing your family tree? I have access to a resource that might have some information on WARRINER and HILLIS if you are interested.
Maidmarianoops- thanks for the link. Nick Reddan's site does list quite a few GOREs but none of these are connected as far as I know. The Arthur GOREs that are mentioned there, I think, are on the branch that had Saunderscourt in Co.Wexford. Sounds promising when they share the same name though!!
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Hi from fudgelover. Yes, Iam of Hillis descent and I still have relations living in Fannystown House. I just recently discovered that the house was built by the Gore family. My Great aunt Elinor Hillis marriendWilliam Warriner. Am I using this site correctly? I welcome all help you can give me. Thank you.
Hi fudgelover.
As aghadowey said, JaniceK hasn't been online for quite a while. However I do have her email address somewhere on my computer, and am in contact with another descendant of Arthur GORE and Sarah WARRINER. I a GORE descendant on another branch and am very interested in any information that you have pertaining to the GOREs in that are of the county, or anything on Arthur and his wife.
Katharine.
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Fudgelover- are you actively doing your family tree? I have access to a resource that might have some information on WARRINER and HILLIS if you are interested.
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Thank you, AGHADOWEY from fudgelover in Armagh. Do hope I am replying properly to the various messages. Please put me in touch with anyone willing to have contact from me.
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Fudgelover - do you have any more details on the house (Fannystown house was it?) being built by the Gore family? References to a first name, time built, etc?
Have replied to your PM.
I think you are doing fine using the site!
Katharine.
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katherine
http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/ancestor_search.aspx?pagename=ppc%3Airish+ancestors&tcode=obituary&ss=irish+ancestors&ft=1&zfn=ARTHUR&zln=GORE&zplace=Ireland&usplaces=USA#
SAYS 3 DAYS FREE TRIAL NEVER TOO SURE THOUGH
Sylvia
thanks for your comments
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Thanks for link. Had a quick look and tried to sign up for 3 day trial but you have to put in credit card details first. I 'prefer not to do that on the internet. So unfortunately can't look.
But many thanks, Katharine.
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Yes please, any info on Hillis or Warriner would be good. Thank you, Helen Black
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Sorry, haven`t been back to this site for ages and wasn`t alerted that I had messages.
I have a very old photo of Fannystown House. My relations still live there.
WHO WAS FANNY ???
Love to hear from you. I will photocopy the photo for you and post it if you wish to give me your address.
Helen Black
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Yes,still pursuing the Hillis/Warriner family. My relations still live in Fannystown House.
Love to hear from you,
Helen Black
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Hi Fudgelover. PM me your email address if you like, as I have just been going through some papers of mine, and realised that someone sent me a newspaper clipping on which appears: William Warriner, Fannystown. It is from the 1840s and his name is down as a reference in a business advertisment.
Katharine.
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Hi Katharine and thank you.
My e-mail address is:
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This is great.
Helen Black
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Helen, you need to PM me your email address. Just click on my username Katharine 75 in the left hand column. It will open a page for a personal message.
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Hi Janice. I am also researching my GORE's from Duncormic, whom I think are closely related to yours. Would love to hear from you.
Do you have contact with Peggy Kennet, or Peg Handcock, as they are both related to Arthur Gore b.1828?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Katharine.
Hi Katherine
My mother Emily Patricia Crampton (nee Batterton) was Peggy Kennett's twin sister, their mother was Elizabeth Abigail Batterton (nee Gore) and was married to Richard Cecil Batterton. Working on a few ideas, this family stuff is very addictive.
We buried mum's ashes at St Davids Church, Mulrankin this month and found a Thomas Gore, his son and his sister we think, on a memorial plaque in the church. Will let you know when have something more concrete.
Regards
Cheryl
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Hi Cheryl. Great to hear from you. I think you need to do a few more postings before I am able to send you a personal message (and therefore my email address).
In the meantime...
The grave at Mulrankin would be for the Rev. Thomas Gore who was a minister there. As far as I can ascertain, this Gore family is not part of our Gore family.
I will be very interested to hear what you know about your Gore family.
Presumably you are in Ireland (?). I am in Australia.
Regards, Katharine.
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hi katherine
I live in England, but was born in ireland. I know that Arthur Gore born 1828 was married to Sarah Anne Warriner and they had 5 childred namely; Arthur born 13/02/1874 and info says he died 1875, Sarah Anne born 09/11/1864, Charles Richard born 25/11/1869, John Gore born 1846 and died 1912 & Hannah Margaret.
John married Emily Patricia Clarke about 1898 and were the parents of my grandmother Elizabeth Abigail Gore and her siblings; sisters Sarah Anne, Eva and brother Arthur who died as a small child. Hannah Margaret married Richard Batterton, who was my grandfather's parents. Yes they were 1st cousins.
I found somewhere can't remember where, but it seems Sarah Anne Warriner may have been called William Warriner.
hope this helps.
Cheers
Cheybarr
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Hi Cheryl.
Thanks for the info. Do you have much on the other children of Arthur Gore?
Do you have much contact with the other lines; Sarah Anne 1864 or Charles Richard 1869?
Who did Sarah Anne marry?
Katharine.
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Are you still out there Cheryl? Katharine.
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Katherine
yes I am.
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Hi. I am not sure, but I think you need to do a few posts before we can send personal messages?
Do you have much on the other children of Arthur Gore?
Do you have much contact with the other lines; Sarah Anne 1864 or Charles Richard 1869?
Who did Sarah Anne marry?
Katharine.
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Hi fudgelover.
As aghadowey said, JaniceK hasn't been online for quite a while. However I do have her email address somewhere on my computer, and am in contact with another descendant of Arthur GORE and Sarah WARRINER. I a GORE descendant on another branch and am very interested in any information that you have pertaining to the GOREs in that are of the county, or anything on Arthur and his wife.
Katharine.
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Any more info on Warriner/ Gore?
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to find out more about my mother's family who are Gore's from Duncormick, Co. Wexford. Her father was called John Gore and his twin sister was Winifred Gore. They lived at Little Graigue. I am having trouble seperating the Gore's from Sanders Court form my mother's family. Was there any connection between the two?
I do know that my mother said that her grandfather was related to the Gore Booths at Lisadell.
Regards,
Ingrid Swan
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Duncormick, Co. Wexford. Registration District : New Ross
Adjacent Registration Districts on map!
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=125
A Search like this on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp will find registered bdm's for them at this district
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Hi Ingrid. We are related. Would love to speak with you via Personal Message. You will need to do a two more posts to site and then you will have access to the Personal Message function - or so I believe.
I think I have corresponded for a time with your brother and sister in law (Hancock).
Regards, Katharine.