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I am descended from Thomas Cleather of Plymouth who married Ann Dunsterville, also of Plymouth, somewhere around 1800 (one son was born 1806). Could anyone find their marriage?
Ann's father was Bartholomew Dunsterville, surgeon who I think married a Joan Henderson, and her grandfather Elias Dunsterville, blockmaker (died 1776). I am looking for any dates for Ann Dunsterville, Bartholomew Dunsterville, or Elias Dunsterville.
Elias had two brothers Richard and Edward and a sister Lucy (who I think married a Coulton). Apart from Bartholomew he had three sons William, Thomas and Michael and four daughters Lucy, Mary Ann, Priscilla & Rebecca. I have this information from his will, but no dates.
I have no information on siblings for Ann.
Any help would be gratefully received.
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Plymouth St Andrew (the big church in Plymouth City Centre - the Mother Church)
30-06-1773 Bartholomew Dunsterville Joan Henderson
15-03-1805 Thomas Cleather Ann Dunsterville
Fizzy
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Many thanks for the help - it has saved me a lot of legwork. I don't suppose you came across any other Dunstervilles in your trawl through the records?
Regards,
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There were other Dunsterville marriages but the baps I have dont start until 1813.
Fizzy
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Any Dunsterville marriages you can dig up would be great, if it doesn't take too much of your time.
Thanks,
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Dear "Hissey", I am also descended from Thomas Cleather (son William H Cleather, gd Sophia Louisa Cleather married Collinson and their daughter Sophia Amelia Collinson married my gg grandfather Thomas Dent). What is your connection?
Nick Dent
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Hi Nick,
I am descended from Thomas Cleather and Ann Dunsterville through their son Thomas Cleather (1806-1840), who married Mary Elizabeth Inglis. Amongst their children was Georgina Inglis Cleather (abt 1834 - 1905). She married a James Fraser and the youngest of their 13 children was my great grandmother Amy Georgina Fraser.
Thomas Cleather is the only child of Thomas Cleather and Ann Dunsterville that I know of. If I am reading your post correctly it sounds as though you are descended from another child of theirs. Would you mind giving me details of any other siblings or descendants?
I am happy to swap information with you. You will find a tree of mine on Genes Reunited which (if you are a member which costs only a nominal amount) I can give you permission to view, or alternatively if you let me have your contact details I can e-mail you a family tree.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Julia
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Hi Julia
John DUNSTERVILLE - son of Bartholomew (1776 - 1831) - if you want to read more go to Google Books and The Church in Madras Being a History of Ecclesiastical and of the East India Company in the Presidency of Madras from 1805 to 1835.
I am trying to find out which sister of Bartholomew DUNSTERVILLE married someone with the surname JACK and had a daughter Louisa Dunsterville JACK c1784 - June 1827
Any help would be appreciated
Tiatai
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St Andrews Church Plymouth
06-09-1779
James Jack married Rebecca Dunsterville
Fizzy
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Louisa Dunsterville JACK was baptised at Plymouth St Andrew 5 Dec 1780 dau of James & Rebecca JACK.
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:) Thankyou so much for the quick replies - James JACK and Rebecca DUNSTERVILLE are my daughter's 6 x Great Grandparent's.
I appreciate the help tremendously.
I now need to find the marriage of Louisa Dunsterville JACK to Boyle Octavius LOANE their first child (tot he best of my knowledge) being Richard Boyle LOANE c1806.
Thanks again Tiatai
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Baptised at Plymouth St. Andrew:
28 Aug 1817 Ann Cleather LOANE dau of Boyle Octavius & Louisa Dunsterville LOANE; father a Major in the army
9 May 1823 Fanny Mary Ann LOANE dau of Boyle Augustus (sic) & Louisa LOANE; father a Major in the army. (Said to be born 14 Aug 1822)
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Thanks once again this is a great help. Ann's baptism date is useful she was 'supposedly born in Ceylon in 1814 when her father was serving in the first Ceylon Regiment ... lots more work to be done on this.
Kind regards
Tiatai
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Hi Taitia I have just come across an Ann Cleather Loane here in Australia. She married here in 1844 as it is such an unusual name I thought I would let you know. I am now waiting for her marriage certificate and birth certificate of her first two children to see if she is one in the same, seems too coincidental doesn't it. Her death cert gives her parents as unknown so I am hoping that the marriage may give me some indication though it is quite early and not all the info was recorded at this time like later ones. I will post the result when I receive the certs in about 2-3 weeks time.
Regards, Margaret
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Hi again, I have found out more information on Major Boyle Loane and his brother RW Loane here in Australia as well as
marriages of their other children.
Regards Margaret
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Hi
Far too much of a coincidence - As you know the family came to Australia - Tasmania to be exact 1825 Anne and Richard were in 1824 living with their Grandmother - Mrs Loane's mother.
I would appreciate any information on the marriages that you may be willing to share.
Regards Tiatai
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Hi, thanks for replying, so far Ann Cleather Loane married John Tipping 1844 (I am currently waiting for the marriage certificate to arrive so will advise you when I receive. they married at Dungog NSW Australia.
Thursday 21st November 1833 Miss Louisa Loan eldest Daughter of Major Loane to Mr Henry Coulson of Sydney.
Married Thursday 16th January, 1845 Frances Mary Ann eldest daughter of the Late Major Loane, at St Davids Church Hobart Town by the Rev. Dr Bedford - John Tomes Esq. Deputy Assistant Commisory-General.
More information is to be found by going to NLA Australian Newspapers beta which is a website that contains a lot of the old australian papers which have been digitalised by our Govt. Just put in what you want to search for I put in Major Loane and all the results popped up. You will have to search through all the results but they contain the arrival notice of the family on the Harvey arriving in Hobart in 1825 and also their death notices, both Boyle and his wife. Please let me know how you go,
regards Margaret
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:) Thankyou so much for the quick replies - James JACK and Rebecca DUNSTERVILLE are my daughter's 6 x Great Grandparent's.
I appreciate the help tremendously.
I now need to find the marriage of Louisa Dunsterville JACK to Boyle Octavius LOANE their first child (tot he best of my knowledge) being Richard Boyle LOANE c1806.
Thanks again Tiatai
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Hi Tiatai,
According to the India Office Family site, Boyle Octavius Loane (misspelt Leane) married Louisa Dunterville Jack on 9th October 1810. It was reported in Madras India (but not sure if that is where the actual marriage took place). Still waiting for certifictes to arrive. Hope this helps,
Margaret
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:) Margaret thanks so much for the help - out of interest do you know anything about their son Richard Loane - I had C1806 but perhaps it is later than this.
Tiatai -
Darwin Australia
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:) Margaret - Richard Boyle LOANE son of Boyle Octavius LOANE and Louisa Dunsterville JACK - married Elizabeth JONES in 1840 in the Parramatta Presbyterian Church.
They had 3 sons Rowland R LOANE 1840 Henry O LOANE 11 May 1841 and Frederick D LOANE 1844
Tiatai
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Tiatai, I guess so, according to this record. Have you been on the NLA Australian Newspapers beta, there is quite a bit of information regarding the Loanes, their arrival in Tasi etc and records of their marriages etc. Boyle Octavius's death, There are quite a few results so you would have to search through to find the correct Loanes. You just have to put their names in.
Margaret
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Firstly, I would like to add my thanks to all those who went to the trouble of finding information and placing it in this topic - your efforts are very much appreciated. I hope your good graces may extend to my further requests which I have placed in new topics today.
I am unable to add information specific to this topic's requests, but I am a descendant of Elias DUNSTERVILLE, (which I had only suspected before reading this topic, but now confirmed), and although I have not carried out much primary research myself, I am most happy to share what little I have with the other researchers who have posted here. The family name CLEATHER linked to DUNSTERVILLE answers a question I long held in regards to the naming of Ann CLeather LOANE.
Tiatai,
I conclude from your comment re your 'daughter's 6 x Great Grandparent's', that the LOANE line of descent is paternal, but that you are the family researcher. I am descended through Richard Boyle LOANE, and have researched the LOANE family for many years, both in Australia and Ireland - I am most willing to exchange research information with you on this family.
I take it that it is more appropriate to talk about any information held, and exchange of same, in personal messages.
Eric (in Australia)
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My wife's family (the Ricketts of South India) married into the Dents in Madras in 1816, when John Dent married Emily Ricketts.
John was reportedly born in Trainlands in 1795. He died in 1845 in Calcutta.
There is a great statue of John Dent in St George's Cathedral, Madras.
John and Emily's daughter, Emily Jane, died in 1830 in her uncle's house in Fitzroy Square, London.
Do you have any more details of John and his brother?
Thanks
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Yes, I have a great deal more information about John Dent, his brothers, descendants etc (I am in touch with two of them). My ggg grandfather Robert Dent was John's elder brother. I have also seen the monument in Madras, 15 years ago - isn't it splendid? We should be in contact offline as much too much to share in this forum - but I am not sure how to do this as I think they edit out personal email addresses (probably sensibly) for fear of becoming a victim of spam. Kind regards Nick (Nicholas Dent)
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Hi Margaret,
I am a decendant of Charlotte Ann Tipping (Anne Cleather Loane and John Tipping's Daughter).
Would it be possible to get a copy of the certificates you have for your research on the LOANE and the DUNSTERVILLE/CLEATHER Connections?
Any info you could possibly share would be wonderful!
Kind regards,
Rachael.
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If you click on the little scroll icon to the left of the message body from Rachael's last message, you can 'personal message' her with your e-mail address. For her to do it she has to have made 3 postings to the site.
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Hi,
Thankyou for your assistance, I really appreciate it.
Regards,
Margaret
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Hi Everyone - I am new to Rootschat but wanted to get in touch with descendants of Elias Dunsterville especially those that live in Australia. I have some info on his father Nicholas who fled from Cork and settled in Plymouth. Also I have info to add to earlier posts regarding siblings and children of several generations. I may visit Plymouth in May (from Aus) if I can find any sources worth looking into. Rob Dunsterville