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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Briannicus on Sunday 01 November 09 10:43 GMT (UK)
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Dear all,
I found this reference to my GGGGG grandfather on Google books but can't make head nor tail of what it is called or whether it is possible to find it, either on line or in a library. The title doesn't even seem to be there so I could look for it. I have been going around in circles for hours. Can anyone help
Thanks,
Brian
http://books.google.com/books?id=_ExmAAAAMAAJ&q=%22John+Kirton+Anderson%22&dq=%22John+Kirton+Anderson%22&client=internal-uds&source=uds
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It says
Publications, Parts 120-131 By Scottish Record Society at the top of the page.
Are they still around to ask ? several references in Google: Scottish Record Society
Bob
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Looks like you can read some of their publications online here:
http://openlibrary.org/a/OL2533482A/Scottish_Record_Society
Good luck,
Bob
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Thanks Bob,
Had a look at that site you recommended but can't see anything that would lead me to 'Publications, Parts 120-131 By Scottish Record Society'
All the sites I have visited have similar books on line but because this title is so vague, not to say, odd, it leaves me none the wiser. I really don't understand what Google Books is doing here. If I enlarge the page a lot, I can make out the word GLASGOW from the small image of the book cover, but they don't give that title. Why not, I have no idea. So I've been looking at all the Scottish Record Society Books with Glasgow in the title and have found nothing that approximates to this.
Brian
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Brian,
just a thought, there is a link on that site to a Wiki-article, contributed in Jan. 2008:
The president in 2007 was the [...] The secretary is [...] Department of History, University of Glasgow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Record_Society
Looks like the society still exists. A letter perhaps .... ? :)
Bob
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Thanks, Bob.
If I don't get anywhere else with this, I will contact them.
But I'm still trying to figure out what Google Books is doing. Perhaps I should write them. All very irritating when you've spent weeks tracking down something and then can't access it for some strange, unexplained reason.
Brian
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Hi,I'd a look at this link & using the advanced search I found that the book by The Scottish Record Society is entitled;' Publications 1932.' By clicking on the button on the top righthand side I was able to view the cover. You should be able to find it in a library. The service of John Kirkton Anderson is on page 44.
flst
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Hi
Thank you very much for that. Most helpful. I'll try and find it now.
Brian
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By expanding the search to "John Kirton Anderson of tushielaw"you get this
FINGLAND
Perhaps the dispositions to trustees for behoof of creditors granted by Michael Anderson (the second), son of the entailer in 1742, and in 1762 did not include Fingland and Carterhope. If they did, the family later regained their title.
Michael Anderson had three sons, Michael (the third), John, and Patrick. Michael (the third) had one son, Michael (the fourth), and a daughter, Barbara. Michael (the fourth) who married Isabella, daughter of Peter Colville, younger, of Ochiltree, died without issue in 1779, and the property then passed under the entail to his uncle Patrick, a younger brother of Michael (the third). He was infeft in Fingland and Carterhope in 1782 on a charter by James Loch, W.S., the superior, dated 29th March, 1781; he married Rachel Watt, and, dying without issue in 1786, was succeeded by his niece, Barbara (a sister of the fourth Michael Anderson), who was infeft in 1788. Barbara Anderson was twice married: to Alexander Kirton, chirurgeon in Barbados, and to William Castor, supervisor of excise, Northampton. By the first marriage there was one son, John Kirton, who was born at Tushielaw in 1758, succeeded to the property, assumed the name of Anderson in accordance with the entail, and became John Kirton Anderson of Tushielaw.
John Kirton Anderson in 1801 had a decree of removing against Thomas Tweedie of Oliver from Fingland, which had been leased to him for nineteen years on 11th April, 1782, by Patrick Anderson. In 1812 Fingland (which was then occupied along with Carterhope by Robert and David Welsh, as sub-tenants of the principal tenant, Gilbert Chisholm), was exposed for sale by John Kirton Anderson in order to provide funds for the redemption of the land tax applicable to the rest of his property. The upset price was ?3,000, and it was purchased by Henry Scott, merchant, Edinburgh, on behalf of Gideon Scott, tenant of Kirkhope, for ?3,540. This was confirmed by a charter from the immediate superior, William Govan of Hermiston in 1817; and the feu-duty payable was ?1 13s. 6d.
From Gideon Scott the property passed to his nephew, William Scott, whose son, Mr. William Scott, is the present owner. The immediate superiors are now the trustees of the late Richard Bell of Crurie and Castle O'er.
The rental is ?250.
CARTERHOPE
John Kirton Anderson, as we have seen, became the proprietor of Carterhope and Fingland. He married Angel Price, and died without issue in 1816. On 15th August, 1818, his grandniece, Ann Vernona Simmons, was served as his heir. She was the only child of Philip Simmons of the parish of St. Michael in the island of Barbados, who was the eldest son of Ann Kirton (a sister of John Kirton Anderson) and her husband, Henry Peter Simmons, of the parish of St. Philip in Barbados.
Ann Vernona Simmons, who assumed the surname of Anderson, was twice married - in 1818 to Benjamin Gaskin, Commissary General of Jamaica, who died a few weeks after marriage, and in 1828 to the Rev. Thomas Gordon Torry, Edinburgh, son of the Right Rev. Patrick Torry, Bishop of St. Andrews. By the first marriage there was one child, Benjamin Thomas Gaskin Anderson; and by the second marriage two daughters, Vernona Thomas Christian Torry Anderson (wife of Richard Sidney Smith of the Royal Navy, commander of the coastguard at Yarmouth), and Patricia Jane Torry Anderson.
Benjamin Thomas Gaskin Anderson succeeded his mother, and had a precept of clare constat on 5th January, 1838, from his superior, Adam Stewart of Hawkshaw. he married his cousin, Emily Claston Callendar, Barbados, and died in 1855, succeeded by his son of the same name, who was served as heir on 2nd May, 1860, and had a writ of confirmation from the superior, George Graham Bell of Crurie, on 13th December, 1865. This heir died on 23rd September, 1908, without issue and was succeeded by his third cousin, Henry Peter Carter Simmons Anderson, residing at Hastings, Barbados, who was served as such on 6th August, 1910. He disentailed the lands in 1912, and sold Carterhope in 1925 to the tenants, John, James and Ebenezer Braidwood Masterton, farmers. The previous tenant was the late Tom Welsh, proprietor of Earlshaugh.
The original feu-duty was ?1 10s. and is now (including commutation of casualties) ?6 13s. 4d. The immediate superiors are the trustees of Richard Bell of Crurie and Castle O'er.
The present rental is ?295.
http://www.tweedie.org/381-415.htm
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Thanks for that Sancti, though I already have that Tweedie Genealogy site with its info from the very thorough 'The History of Peeblesshire' by J. W. Buchan and Rev. H. Paton. Published 1925-7..
What I don't have is whatever is in that 'Publications' from the Scottish Record Society (1932), though it may, for all I know, simply replicate what you've just posted below.
I also can't find out that much about this particular line of Andersons beyond the Michael who bought Tushielaw from a Walter Scott in 1688.
Brian
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Aye Brian,
Are you still interested in the Anderson's of Tushielaw? May I have a blether?
Thank you. Bill.
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Yes, indeed, Bill. Very much so.
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That's probably the best and easiest way for us to communicate.
Hear from you soon
Regards
Brian
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Good evening Brian,
Appear to have aroused the wrath of the Moderator, which I certainly wasn't intending, so I'll make 3 postings and then use the PM service.
I trust that you are OK about this?
My regards, Bill.
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Aye Brian,
This is to clarify my interest in the Anderson's, who acquired Tushielaw from Auld Wat O' Harden after marrying his daughter.
My regards, Bill.
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It looks to me as if the title of that particular volume published by the Scottish Record Society is The Burgesses and Guild Brethren of Glasgow 1751-1846.
You have probably discovered that anyway by now, as it is some time since your original query. I wouldn't have bothered, only no-one else seems to have suggested that.
There are at least four copies available at www.abebooks.co.uk from £30 upwards. You may not wish to shell out £30 + £2.95 for postage, in which case (if you still need to) you should be able to consult the book in most major libraries in Scotland, plus the Legal Deposit Libraries in England, Wales and Ireland. See http://www.nls.uk/about-us/what-we-are/legal-deposit/legal-deposit-libraries