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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: Southern on Saturday 31 October 09 06:58 GMT (UK)
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I believe they had 7 children. He was married to Isabella Harrower 1806-? He emigrated to Australia.. Looking for information on his parents. His daughter Barbara, married in Sydney, Australia to Charles Brown abt 1855.
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Hi Southern
In the 1841 Census entry for the family in Newburgh, Fife, Mathew shows as born outside the county of Fife. Wonder whether this could be his christening entry on IGI:
MATHEW SPEEDIE Christening: 22 DEC 1805 Abernethy, Perth
Parents: ALEXANDER SPEEDIE (mother's name not included on the entry)
Monica
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This 1851 entry corresponds with the 1841 household. Maybe father Matthew joined his children after 1851, can't see him in 1861 - spellings as transcribed:
Matthew Speedet 44, innkeeper b. Abernethy Perthshire
Mary Speedet 13, b. Newburgh
Alexander Speedet 11, b.Newburgh
Elizabeth George 32, servant
Address: Eastern Suburbs Comt Inn, Newburgh
Monica
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Wow that was quick! Thank you so much Monica!. Yes, it is the same person, I believe his father was Alexander (no details yet). He will not be in the Scottish 1861 census as he was residing in Australia then.
Once again, thank you for your help.
Glen. :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Glen, i looked on SP for you and found Mathew with some siblings!! assume they are the same family and 1 has the mothers name:
22/12/1805 Mathew father: Alexander Abernathy
11/2/1810 Janet " "
8/5/1814 Robert " "
14/3/1824 Jean " "
18/6/1826 Andrew " "
8/11/1828 James Alexander & Margaret Duff Abernathy
seems to be a big gap 1814 - 1824 so possible he was married twice??????
Diddy
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checked the other children on the igi but still only Alexander given as father. there is another janet chr 2/4/1844 to an Alexander Speedie & Mary Arnott, Abernathy but prob not your Alex!! must be a relation though i would think.
Diddy
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There is this possible family Diddy in 1841, with the names you have found - all showing as born outside the county:
Alex Speedy 60, farmer
Margaret Speedy 50
Marian Speedy 22
Alexander Speedy 20
Jane Speedy 17
Andrew Speedy 15
James Speedy 13
Wm Gaddie 20, ag. lab
Elizabeth Recher 30, servant
Address: Clatto Barns
Monica
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And the 1851 entry for this family - all showing as born in Abernethy Perthshire :):
Alexander Speedie 77, Farmer Of 240 Acres Employing 5 Labourers - 30 Acres Of Moor Land
Margaret Speedie 64
Alexander Speedie 30
Jane Speedie 26
Andrew Speedie 24
James Speedie 22
George Paterson 16
Address: Clatto Barns, Kettle Fife
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There is a last Will & Testament entry showing on SP at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk :
Alexander Speedie, 27/09/1853, TENANT IN CLATTO BARNS, PARISH OF KETTLE
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Still on the hunt for Matthew's mother's name :-\
Diddy, I think this supports your suggestion of a possible second marriage for Alexander Speedie:
My Surname Duff is in my Grandmothers name:
Margaret Duff Speedie Born 1864 in Dunshalt, Fife,
Scotland.
I believe her parents to be James Speedie and Margaret
Suttie.
I believe James Speedie to be Alexander Speedie and
Margaret Duff They were married Dec.4, 1824
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.ireland.general/11955.1.2.1/mb.ashx
Monica
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Good hunting monica. I've just had to go pick up my daughter from Derby station as her train was cancelled!!
I can't find any marriages / deaths on SP but didn't think of the wills.
Diddy
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Fife death CD - do you have:
isabella Speedie bur. nov 1837 newburgh dsu of matthew Speedie & Isabel harrower
margaret Elizabeth Speedie wife of David neilson Bell, dau of Matthew Speedie bur 23/12/1845 Abdie.
Diddy
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Glad you managed to pick up your daughter Diddy :)
Jury's is still out in my head whether Matthew's mother was or was not Margaret Duff :-\ Conflicting info on-line. For example, daughter Marion who shows in 1841 at home with parents Alexander and Margaret (Duff). She was born c. 1816-18 and before the date of a possible marriage for Alexander and Margaret (Duff) that showed on the other post (and that I cannot see on SP). From her death cert, Margaret Duff shows as mother:
Marion PETRIE (married to Robert PETRIE)
died 25th Sep 1889 11h0m PM at Dunshalt, Auchtermuchty aged 73 years
Father: Alexander SPEEDIE, Farmer, deceased
Mother: Margaret DUFF, deceased
Cause of death: Supposed Paralysis suddenly - no medical attendant
Informant: Robert PETRIE her widower (present)
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SCT-FIFE/2005-05/1117045022
Margaret Duff/Speedie looks to have died on 13 Aug 1872 in Kettle, Fifeshire. Parents given as Robert Duff and Barbara Scott www.bryan-martin.net/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18593&tree=gam
The names Barbara and Margaret feature in Matthew and Isabel (Harrower) children's names.
Monica
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A few more children showing potentially for Alexander (and Margaret Duff? but name not given):
From the list you showed Diddy:
22/12/1805 Mathew father: Alexander Abernathy
11/2/1810 Janet " "
8/5/1814 Robert " "
14/3/1824 Jean " "
18/6/1826 Andrew " "
8/11/1828 James
There is also showing in Abernathy OPRs:
BARBRA SPEEDIE Christening: 30 AUG 1807
MARGARET SPEEDIE Christening: 23 FEB 1812
ALEXANDER SPEEDIE Christening: 13 JUL 1819
Missing the entry for Marion born c. 1816.
::) Guessing game now with Scottish naming pattern and order:
Alexander - parents Matthew and Janet...maybe!
Margaret - Robert and Barbara...which fits with what we are seeing elsewhere
Monica
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2nd or more marriages very possible. Forgot about this one - when Barbara arrived in Aus. the papers state mother deceased. not sure if she died in aus or scot will need to keep looking on this one.
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My name is Matthew Riley Speedie III, I do know that my ancesters originally came from Perthshire. I hope this is helpful. Matthew (my decendent) came from Scotland in the 1800's staying in Canada. The family finally resided in Gibson City, Illinois. My grandfather Matthew Riley Speedie, was fathered by William Speedie. He had a brother named Raymond who passed away in Belleville, IL in the early 1960's. My grandfather passed in 1972 in Lafayette, Indiana. My father, Matthew Jr. passed away in 2002 in Lafayette as well. I wish I knew more.