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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: eramophla on Saturday 31 October 09 06:26 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone know where I can obtain some information on the Copeland family of the Copeland Islands, located off the County Down coast? I am descended from a Copeland family from Donaghadee and could be connected.
Regards,
Era
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Have ypou tried searching anywhere yet?
Lots of Copelands here-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/C/CooCop.htm
Try PRONI e-catalogue- www.proni.gov.uk
And googling will probably bring up more information.
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Thanks for the websites. They look like they might be useful. I have been googling and browsing forums so far, without much luck. I will keep on hunting, but if anyone finds anything in the meantime, I would greatly appreciate it.
Era
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Ive had a look at the 1911 census where there are a few Copelands
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
but Im not sure if any will be specifically your relations
Good luck (by the way I spoke to my Mother who hails from the Donaghadee area and she doesn't remember any Copeland actually living on the isle)
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and a little further info here
http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?displaygraveyardinfo&graveyard_name=Copeland%20Island%20Graveyard
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Hi Era
With regards to the reply from Gopher , like her mother I too hail from Donaghadee and have never heard of a Copeland family from the island.
I was always told the island was named after a Norman family called De Coupland.
A survey carried out in 1732 by John Sloane states there were four tenants on the Big Island(Copeland) by the name of James Brown, Andrew Agnew, Alexander Agnew and James McCalder.
In the middle of the eighteenth century the islands where purchased by Mr David Ker of Portavoe and about this time the tenants of the island changed, the McCalders and Agnews left and the Cleggs, Emmersons and Wrights arrived. These families where able to buy their holdings under the Land Act and their descendants lived on the islands until the 1940s.
The above details are to be found in the book by W.G. Pollock ' Six Miles from Bangor , The Story Of Donaghadee"
Ddee
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Thank you to all for this information. The person from whom I found out about Copelands on Copeland Islands must have their information wrong - I will have to check. Even if there were Copelands on the islands at any stage, it is probably to far back for any connection to be made.
I appreciate all you assistance.
Regards,
Era
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my great grandfather was a Matthew Clegg- I have quiet a lot of information and in 1911 there where still a few familes living on the Island.
Mark
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Thanks for that Mark. Considering the previous information I have been given, I don't imagine that any of them had the surname of Copeland?
Era
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havent seen any Copelands in anything I have read- Cheers Mark
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for gmarkdonald
My wife is a Clegg, daughter of a Clegg, son of Alexander Clegg (born 1900), son of Matthew Clegg, son of Richard Clegg (I think) from the Copeland Islands. Matthew was married to Rebecca Hayes. If this is the same connection, I would like to swap info.
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Hi,
The father of the Matthew Clegg who married Rebecca Hayes in 1876 was Richard according to Ancestry Ireland. If this is the same Richard who was the 80 year old living on the Copeland Islands in 1901 with his wife Esther then it is possible that she was Esther Emerson who married Richard in Newtownards Registrars Office on 25 Aug 1845.
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kingskerswell
That was quick. Thanks for the confirmation. According to the 1901 Census there were five families living on the Copeland Islands, Anderson, Emerson and Clegg. The last residents were Clegg, Frederick and Aise, who left the island in 1953. They died in 1964 and 1965 and were the last burials in the island graveyard.
conijoni
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Hi Era,
One COPELAND family tree exists with a connection to a Phillips line in
volume 20 in the Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in the LinenHall library, Belfast. Perhaps a local Copeland could visit for you. If not then I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and you should be prepared to pay a fee for copying, post and packing, and perhaps some staff time and overheads. However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library. [Mr Blackwood often made notes on the page{s} following the tree.]
Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707, Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email: <irish.reference[at]linenhall.com>.replace the [AT] with the symbol please
Good luck, Jim
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Thanks for that information Jim. It must have taken some real digging to find that one! I will try to investigate when I get the opportunity.
Cheers,
Era
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Hi there, I have a Mary Anne Copeland born about 1800 possibly in Ireland who married John Edwards in St David's Welsh church in Liverpool on 9th Dec 1839. She then had a daughter Hannah in Halkyn Flintshire in 1842. Any connection? Flower
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My gran Kathleen is a Clegg and was born on the island her mother is Agnes and father was James Clegg who was also born and lived on the island
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Lease of Large Copeland, Co. Down, by James Clegg and others to H. Clegg and R. Emerson, March, 1807. Belfast: Belfast Public Record Office, D. 500 (166)
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My gran Kathleen is a Clegg and was born on the island her mother is Agnes and father was James Clegg who was also born and lived on the island
If I find anything of interest about James and Agnes, I will make a post.
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Welcome to RootsChat, EstherW :)
My gran Kathleen is a Clegg and was born on the island her mother is Agnes and father was James Clegg who was also born and lived on the island
Probable birth of your Gt Grandfather, James Clegg, 1897. #110
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02132/1810230.pdf
1901 Irish census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Bangor/Copeland_Island/1251845/
Marriage of David Clegg to Ellen Jane Emerson, 1880
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1880/11033/8035010.pdf
KG
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.........her mother is Agnes and father was James Clegg who was also born and lived on the island
Is this the marriage of James & Agnes?
M/1922/F1/2148/6/46 James Clegg to Agnes Herron 24th April 1922 North Down
If you don't already have it, the civil marriage record for James and Agnes is available via GRONI online at the following link, and choosing the "full" option (5 credits £2.50) lets you see the digitised image of the original:
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
KG
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My gran Kathleen is a Clegg and was born on the island her mother is Agnes and father was James Clegg who was also born and lived on the island
My family have said that our granny was the only person to be born on the island. Not sure how much of this is true. Where did your granny Kathleen go when she grew up?