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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: warncoort on Thursday 29 October 09 07:15 GMT (UK)
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Folks,
I have a long list of relatives born in Victoria since 1857 and can not afford to buy each certificate to confirm my findings.Do BDM have a facility that will show date and location etc,even a pay per view?
I am returning for a few days next month from Perth with the intent of spending time there and at PROV.
Thanks,
Eric
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Hi Eric
There are alot of peeps on here who have the Vic BMD's indexes( myself included) who would be very happy to do some lookups for you. From memory birth entries listed parents/district/no date - just year/reg no's etc.
Though I have purchased loads of certs just to find another lead on that particular line, which I was stuck on.
Feel free to post away when you are ready.
Troods
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As Troods Says
ask away
we will do out best from our resources for you, plus you never know who may be ralted to your people
Jen
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Thanks for your kind offer but the three Reeves boys each had many children by 1870 and the breeding didn't slow for many a year,so the number is huge.I already have years for most,just hoping to fill some of the gaps.
Trood,i too am chasing family from Westmorland however the ones capturing my time now are those who stayed in Windermere and will send me digging in archives boxes when next in UK.
Eric
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Hi all. This is a hint to a lot of Victorians having to purchase certificates. There is a site called Certificate Sharing which is a free site where you can upload and download photos, certificates etc.
Also, if you know the year they died look up some of the most popular cemetery records like Fawkner which includes a couple of others and Springvale which is free to look up. They will give you dates of birth and dates of deaths in most cases. You can also freely ring them and they will give you information on the phone. They are both great cemeteries to research. Geelong is another one free to look up.
Hope this helps.
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Warcoort there is a facility
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=getHistIdxSearchCriteria
However many of us will help if you have specific years and locations in your gaps. I can understand your reluctance to request help if the number is huge....but try us ;D
Winalope there are many links to resources at the top of the board -
Australian Resources and then each state is listed individually.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,399.0.html
Perhaps have a browse through the Victorian resources which may include some of the sites you mention. The cemeteries you mention would be under the url for Australian Cemeteries and are well used resources.
Perhaps you may like to add the url for Certificate Sharing if is it isn't there already. There is a link to AusBDM Exchange. Good to have links to free sites.
Cheers
Cando
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Folks,
I have year and place for most people,sadly it is the detail that is missing! Have just signed up with certificate exchange as i have a few certificates that were dead ends;and ausbdm.org may have leads too.
Thanks all,
Eric
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Hi warcoort,
I find this site great, its the Will index upto 1925 for Victoria. You can download Wills/Probates for free. Its very busy at the moment, but you can try again later.
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=54
Cheers
Freckle ;D
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Hi all, I have a real problem about having to pay to view search results on the Victorian BMD site - does anyone know why they charge a fee when NSW, QLD, WA, don't charge? Plus the transcriptions are awful- I can't begin to count how many 99c I've wasted.
Wouldn't it be great to have a site like UK FreeBMD - would that be 'allowed' here in Victoria?- Jan
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Hi Chequered
I cant answer I have a real problem about having to pay to view search results on the Victorian BMD site - does anyone know why they charge a fee when NSW, QLD, WA, don't charge
But may i suggest a new post and ask for the people on here to do the look ups, will save you a lot of .99c,
Daizi
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Hi all, I have a real problem about having to pay to view search results on the Victorian BMD site - does anyone know why they charge a fee when NSW, QLD, WA, don't charge? Plus the transcriptions are awful- I can't begin to count how many 99c I've wasted.
Wouldn't it be great to have a site like UK FreeBMD - would that be 'allowed' here in Victoria?- Jan
Hi there Jan and Welcome to Roots chat
as CD says a lot of us can look for bdm 's so just ask away but I would suggest that you start a new topic though
kind thoughts Jenn
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Hi Jan and a welcome to rootschat from me also :)
I note on your profile that you are located Melbourne. Many family history groups, genealogy societies and libraries have genealogical resources that would include CD's of the births, deaths and marriages for Victoria.
I think the online Victorian indexes are far better than the transcribed indexes you mention and the ability to purchase an image of a certificate online is wonderful, although at times, a little too convenient ;)
You mention NSW, WA and Qld but omitted SA, NT and Tas who don't have their bdm's online, although you can use the Colonial Database on the Tas Archives which is limited to 1899.
I did most of my own family research from the Victorian online indexes. I purchased all the births, death and marriages pages with the surname. I am fortunate in that isn't a commonly occurring name. I think I spent around the $20 mark for the lot....and then I discovered the Diggers Indexes ::) ::) The inclusion of the parents' names on both the birth and death indexes makes research so much easier than the site you mentioned.
As Jen has rightly suggested, start a new topic as those of us with resources will more than happy to help you.
Cheers
Cando
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Cando,
If you spent $20 then surely that is only for the indexed record not complete certificates. Or am i missing something?
Eric
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An Uncertified image (online or mail application) costs $17.50 per certificate
if you want a certified copy (which in my opinion is not necessary for family research purposes) then the cost is $26.60 and you have to apply for a certified copy and wait a period of time for it.
Jenn
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Hi Eric You have not understood my post to Jan. I purchased the pages birth, deaths and marriages with my family surname. Why would I purchase every certificate when I could easily trace the family with the names of parents shown on the births and deaths. I also have other resources such as family bibles, wills, land titles, newspaper snippets, electoral rolls, military records and business papers to support my research.
Of course purely out of interest I have purchased many certificates but I thought we were discussing the cost of searching the online indexes not the purchase of certificates as outlined by Jenn.
Most people enter far too much information when searching the online indexes. The inconsistent abbreviations of given names can cause much frustration.
Cheers
Cando
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I get the 'un-certified' certs for $17.50 and they are great, all the same info as is on the 'certified' ones, and lets face it, we dont need them for legal reasons, so uncertified is fine by me, and they are instant .....
Daizi
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Hello all.
I'm an infrequent user of the chat site, so forgive me if I'm not doing this quite right.
I'm trying to find any info I can on one of my grandmothers brothers. His name is Richard John Franks (known by my father as Jack), he was a sergeant stationed at the Heidelberg military hospital during WWII, and as far as my dad recalls, he stayed in Victoria after the war, and died somewhere in Victoria. If anyone is able to help with death info for him I'd be grateful. He was born in Harden (Murrumburrah), 23/12/1911.
Thanks,
Scott.
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Death
FRANKS Richard John
Father Unknown Mother Unknown BENNETT
At Parkville 1972 61 years Reg#28223
Cando
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Hi all
Just letting you know that the uncertified Victorian bdm certificates online have gone up. I purchased some in August 2013 and they cost $20.00 each.
Turned out they were well worth the money as they solved a lot of questions.
Noells
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Hi Scott
In case you don't have his war service details, listed below is the information from the Australian War Memorial website.
Noells
Name
FRANKS, RICHARD JOHN
Service
Australian Army
Service Number
N444072
Date of Birth
23 Dec 1911
Place of Birth
HARDEN, NSW
Date of Enlistment
4 Jun 1941
Locality on Enlistment
ERSKINEVILLE, NSW
Place of Enlistment
FOREST LODGE, NSW
Next of Kin
FRANKS, HERBERT
Date of Discharge
14 Mar 1947
Rank
Sergeant
Posting at Discharge
115 MIL HOSP
WW2 Honours and Gallantry
None for display
Prisoner of War
No
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Australian Electoral Roll
NSW
1933, 1936, 1937, 1943
FRANKS Richard John 9 Bray Street Erskineville Pastry Cook
Vic 1954,
FRANKS Richard John 10 Harding Street, Coburg Pastry Cook
1963, 1968, 1972
FRANKS Richard John 46 Dannin Street, Pascoe Vale Pastry Cook
Interred at
Fawkner New Lawn Area East NLA*B*N**54
FRANKS Richard John, 61 years, on 1 Dec 1972
You can purchase an image of his death certificate online [$20] and immediately download
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage
I have posted the latest link to purchase certs. Their website has been upgraded over the last couple of years.
Noells they have been that price for sometime...last year from memory. This thread was started Oct 2009.
WW2 service summary
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=368882
Cando
Edit to insert date
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In case you don't have his war service details, listed below is the information from the Australian War Memorial website.
The information appears in identical format to
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
Noells what is the url for the Australian War Memorial website?
Cando
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Scott I should have mentioned that he was the only FRANKS enrolled to vote at the addresses.
Cando
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hi Cando
http://www.awm.gov.au/
Noells
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Thanks :)
Cando
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Obviously my lack of skills...I'll be blowed if his file appears. Anyway a long way around when it is so easy to search for WW2 service files on
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
Are you sure you weren't directed to the above url on the AWM website?
Cheers :)
Cando
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Thanks Cando & Noells for all the info, and qucik replies.
I did have his WWII service info, I got it from the Department of Veteran Affairs web site. I've copied the link here, http://www.dva.gov.au/commems_oawg/nominal_rolls/Pages/index.aspx
Regards,
Scott.
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Thanks Cando & Noells for all the info, and qucik replies.
I did have his WWII service info, I got it from the Department of Veteran Affairs web site. I've copied the link here, http://www.dva.gov.au/commems_oawg/nominal_rolls/Pages/index.aspx
Regards,
Scott.
The above website links to this site ;D
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
Cando
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Hi all.
I have another favour to ask for anyone who can access Vic BDM info.
My cousin has been trying to found out what happened to his mother, she apparently left the family when he was young, and the last he heard about her, was that she had moved to Victoria.
Her name was Alma Florence Campbell (nee Wilkinson), born around 1916/17/18. She married my uncle, Vincent Valentine Campbell, in Gunnedah in 1937.
So not sure if she re-married, kept her married name, or reverted to her maiden name. Her parents names were William James & Mary.
Any information anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott.