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Title: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: eiggam on Tuesday 27 October 09 21:32 GMT (UK)
Hi folks - does anyone know what 'combutant registration' means.
Cannot find a birth certificate for this person but on their marriage licence it says - if I am reading it properly - for their birth registration details  - combutant registation in 1830 in Paisley.  Appreciate help on this.
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: nickgc on Wednesday 28 October 09 00:55 GMT (UK)
"Combutant" appears to be a non-existent word  (except as a misspelling of "combatant"), so it would be better if you scanned and posted a portion of the marriage license.

Nick
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: eiggam on Thursday 29 October 09 12:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Nick - scanning part of the marriage licence as you suggested.
Maybe this will help.
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 29 October 09 12:24 GMT (UK)
I believe that says Born but not ..." (once for groom and once for bride)
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 29 October 09 12:31 GMT (UK)
I think the word 'cobuntant' may be more than one word:

Born but not registered in the year 1813 at Killxanden, Argyleshire. xxxxx that registered in the year 1830 at Paisley.

Monica
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 29 October 09 12:37 GMT (UK)
This section is on the second page of the register from the 1855 certs that ran over the page on to the second page, with all the additional info provided for that first year of official registration in Scotland. I think there are some letters that may be missing from the start of the column which are obscured by the heavy black line on the imaging. Might be worthwhile contacting SP on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/contactus/form.aspx?issue=24 for an enhanced image to see whether the early letters are clearer (worthwhile explaining which area you are having a problem with).

Monica
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: Geoff-E on Thursday 29 October 09 12:42 GMT (UK)
I believe the place mentioned is Kilbrandon http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/seil/kilbrandonchurch/index.html
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: philipsearching on Thursday 29 October 09 13:29 GMT (UK)
I believe that says Born but not ..." (once for groom and once for bride)

I'm with Geoff on this.  For the lower of the two entries there is enough of an upper loop visible to identify the first letter as a capital B.

Philip
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: eiggam on Thursday 29 October 09 14:42 GMT (UK)
Hi folks - thanks your replies.  Have taken Monica's advice on this one and e-mailed Scotlands People for an enhanced image.
Again thanks your help.
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: Archivos on Thursday 29 October 09 16:59 GMT (UK)
I also think it says 'born but not' and not 'combutant'...

Born but not
Registered in
the Year
1813
at Killbrandon
Argyleshire
born but not Registered
in the year 1830
At Paisley
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 29 October 09 18:36 GMT (UK)
Archivos, I think you are spot on with the repetition of Born but not Registered for the bride - as always, easier to see when someone comes up with a match  :)

Monica
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: eiggam on Thursday 29 October 09 21:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Folks - yes that is what it does say - born but not - and here's me thinking 'combutant' is some old Scottish wording!!  Silly me.
Thanks for all your help folks.
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: Archivos on Friday 30 October 09 15:37 GMT (UK)
Glad to be of help!  Though if Geoff-E hadn't said it first, I don't think I'd've spotted the repetition.  So thanks to Geoff-E!
Title: Re: Old Marriage Licence 1855
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 30 October 09 17:19 GMT (UK)
I've just reread from the begining of the thread...slowly...and I'm sorry that I didn't acknowledge you Geoff on your first post, as you say Archivos, Geoff had it from the first  ;)

I'm a bit of fingers and thumbs at the moment during this period of RC maintenance work and some options being off - particularly the red warning if someone else has posted as you are about to post  :'(

Monica  :)