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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Resources & Offers => Topic started by: carrey56 on Sunday 25 October 09 10:09 GMT (UK)
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Hi all
I have many records in regard to this area where I also live, happy to assist if I am able.
Please do not hesitate to contact me.
Carmel
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Hi Carmel,
Can you tell me if there is a Inglewood Cemetery in Ballarat ? I'm led to believe my great great great grandmother is buried there. I have tried contacting the cemetry itself but the lady said she couldn't help me !!!
I would GREATLY appreciate any help.
Thanks
Sandra
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Hi, Inglewood is some 2 hrs drive from Ballarat, (you can google it in maps) the address I have for that cemetery is Mrs S Geyer
Secretary
12 Almond Avenue
Bridgewater 3516
035437 3094
not sure if you have found this one or tried this address before.
Hope this helps Carmel
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Hi Carmel,
Thanks for such a quick reply.
Sorry, i'm from Perth WA and didn't realise that Inglewood cemetery was that far from where you are !! Yes I have contacted the cemetery at the address you gave me, quite a while ago, and they weren't able to help me. So , i guess I'll just have to keep trying other avenues.
Thanks again for your help :)
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Hi Carmel,
Thanks for your very kind offfer.
Would you have any info on Gladys Esther Mc Cormack died in Ballarat 1977 72yrs.Maiden name Williams. if there is a MI if there is any children mentioned and if she is buried with her husband John.Regards Kerri
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Kerri
They are both buried in the New Cemetery in LawnF-9.36 he was an SEC (state Electricity company) employee and buried 7 june 1966, and she 7 December 1977. In the Electoral Roll there is a Brian Joseph Mccormack living with them at 55 Webster Street, Ballarat and he was a Textile worker, probably Lucas' or somewhere like that, earlier they were living at warrenhiep just out side of Ballarat toward Melbourne, actually they were in Scotts pde, must have been the electoral area of Warrenhiep.
When she died she was living at 222 lyons street Ballarat. They were still at Webster street when he died.
Headstone reads
Gladys Esther Mc Cormack/ d 5 December 1976 aged 72 yrs/ wife of John Mother of Brian Jean and Nola, / also John J Mc Cormack / died 5 June 1966 aged 62 yrs husband of Gladys father of above.
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just thought you could try the inglewood Historical Society, just google it.
Carmel
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Hello Carmel,
As a resident of Ballarat & researcher, have you ever seen rate notices c1880's for Mt Egerton on film? Should I contact the local hist society?
Regards,
Abcsydney
Sydney NSW
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Hi Carmel,
Thanks for such a quick reply.
Sorry, i'm from Perth WA and didn't realise that Inglewood cemetery was that far from where you are !! Yes I have contacted the cemetery at the address you gave me, quite a while ago, and they weren't able to help me. So , i guess I'll just have to keep trying other avenues.
Thanks again for your help :)
On another thread you said you emailed the trust but the trust does not appear to have an email address. There is an email address for the Victorian Managed Insurance Authority which includes the Inglewood Cemetery Trust and Inglewood Kindergarten and an email for the person responsible for managing the insurance - perhaps that is where you email was sent.
I have telephoned the Trust Secretary and she is not available until next week. I had quite a chat with her husband who said they are more than willing to search the burial registers but some pages are in a fragile state.
Trust members and secretaries are voluntary positions in rural Victoria and the Cemetery Trust is the point of contact. You cannot contact 'the cemetery' as such.
As suggested you could also contact the Inglewood Historical Society which has a publication for sale of compiled cemetery records. I have posted the link on your other request.
Cheers
Cando
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Mt Egerton rate books would be in Public Record Office in hard copy. Not sure if they would be in Ballarat. Ballarat and District Genealogical Society would be able to look this up for you but there is a charge. Of course there would be no charge if the books are not available or in Ballarat but at least this would eliminate that area. There may also be electoral rolls and directories for there.
Carmel
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Thats great Carmel thankyou very much.
If I can return the favour for you in Adelaide please let me know. :)
Regards Kerri
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Hello Carmel,
Thank you very much for your reply.
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Hi Carmel,
Hoping for your help again .
Joseph Geach died 1947 at Ballarat aged 85. If i have the right fellow his wife was Ellen and she died in 1960 also at Ballarat 79yrs :-\
With thanks Kerri
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Sorry only 2 Geaches in Ballarat and neither of them are Joseph or Ellen. Possible though they are buried in one of the smaller cemeteries and only registered in Ballarat, or possibly died in the local hospital.
Do you know what area they lived in?
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I've run into a brick wall but it seems Jemima Bowman died at Ballarat. She was married to a bloke called Jonathon. Other family names I am looking for that seem to have been at one time in Ballarat are Curran and Scales. Rumour has it they were Roman Catholic. If you've seen any of them I'd love the details :)
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Jemima Bowman Bur. 2 August 1906 aged 76 yrs buried New cemetery Private B3.20, wife
Jonathon Bowman bur same grave 21 Jan 1922 aged 90 yrs
There is also an Elizabeth Bowman, at Home, aged 37 buried same grave 21 Dec 1901.
they were living at 10 Macathur Street, when they died
Headstone reades
Jonathon BOWMAN 1832 - 1922 /his dear wife Jemima 1828-1906 / Thier beloved daughter/ Elizabeth 1864/1901
Private B is of no demonination so cannot see if thier religion.
There are a number of Currans buried at Ballarat and a few Scales.
Looking at the Pioneer Index it appears Jemima may have been married previously as there is a marriage for Jemima Scales to Jonathan and a child born to them but other to Jemima Pitt (her maiden name). on her death it has John Wembeldon Pitt as her father and Mary as her mother. :) :)
What is it you are stuck on?
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Ooh thanks :)
She was married previously to Joseph Scales - I got that from her daughter Annie's marriage entry. It's been a journey to get there since Annie married as a Scales but on *her* daughter's marriage certificate is Bowman. It was all cleared up when I saw Annie's marriage which lists Jemima Bowman, formerly Scales, as her mother. Never mind that Annie's three children have their mother's maiden name listed as Sclaes!
Interestingly they were living at the same address as when Annie got married.
I'm stuck because a) marriage certificates say born x place in Australia and yet no such record can be found in the bdm and b) it's the point where they all came form somewhere else. I'm waiting on certificates for people who moved into NSW to find out where they came from. I can't get images online like for the Victorian bdm. Still it'd be nice if I could figure out how Jemima and Jonathon got to Australia. They married here, but I can't work out where either of them came from. I may have to purchase another image.
Thanks so much for your help. :)
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okay the 1851 census for Christ Church in Southwark England has Joseph Scales, a Journey Man Carpenter, (this means he had just finished his apprentiship and was in his first year as a qualified carpenter) I think his age is 27 and he was born in Whitechapel. His wife is Jemima aged 24 b southwark and daughter Anna aged 5, born London,
Interestingly enough next door is Mary Pitt, aged 56, a furniture Broker, Widow, b (I think) Minor Finsbury. also with her are Emma aged 17 b Christchurch and Adolphus aged 14 also b Christchurch.
In the 1841 census there is also Mary, and Alfred, (children) Mary aged 20, and Alfred 13, and her father John a broker.
So her father has died between 1841 and 1851 in St Saviour in Southwark.
The 1841 census for Joseph Scales has him the son of Edward a clerk and Mary with siblings Edward, 13 yrs Mary 11 yrs Alphonsus 9 yrs kate 7 William 4 and Carolyn mths. Oh and the name has been transcribed as Kales?
Joseph and Jemima m the first 1/4 of 1846 in Newington Surrey. and there is a death for Joseph Scales in 1854 in London Surrey.
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John Wimbeldon Pitt m Mary Sparrow at St Mary's Newington Surrey 20 February 1816 (Family Search)
It also seems John was christened 1 June 1788 at Southwark Surrey the son of John and Alice.
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Annie was born Scales as this was her mother's first marriage, Pitt was her maiden name. so Annie's children listing thier mother as scales is correct.
Shipping records are not always so easy to trace as many came out as just mr or mrs and at the time the gold rush was in full swing so it was hard to keep people to keep records.
It appears Jemima came out some time between 1854 and 1859.
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Thank you so much for all that information! Who knew from Ballarat to London in one short day! :)
Thank you for such a wonderful Christmas present :) This information is so valuable, it's lovely to have someone with experience - I have decided half the battle is knowing where to go next (and having access to it!!!)
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No problems just let me know if you need to find more in Australia or Ballarat. And have a Merry Christmas
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Hi, There is now a NEW online lookup for burials for BALLARAT
Old Cemetery, New Cemetery, Crematorium
http://www.ballaratcemeteries.com.au/history.html
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yes this is correct, however there is a lot more on the CD. such as occupation, who else is buried in the grave, address at time of death etc.
Of course the online index is still a very handy asset!
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Hi Carmel,
Thanks for your very kind offfer.
Would you have any info on Gladys Esther Mc Cormack died in Ballarat 1977 72yrs.Maiden name Williams. if there is a MI if there is any children mentioned and if she is buried with her husband John.Regards Kerri
Kerri
Gladys McCormack was my grandmother. Are you still interested in obtaining some information?