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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: NeilMacKinnon on Friday 23 October 09 22:23 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I'm looking for my great-grandfather, Norman MacKinnon (or McKinnon), apparently born in Inverness, Scotland (all I know!) in approx. 1856, and died in Adelaide, South Australia, Australia in approx. 1906. I'm not sure when he emigrated to Australia, and the only other info I have is that he married (again, don't know when) a Margaret Nelson and had a son b. 1890 called Norman MacKinnon.
I hope someone can help!
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Two possibilities at the moment - both born in Inverness (the county, rather than the town)
Norman McKinnon 15 Oct 1856 South Uist, parents Hector McKinnon & Peggy MacLeod
Norman McKinnon 15 Jul 1858 Harris, parents John McKinnon & Anne Campbell
You need to check these out at ScotlandsPeople since both are submitted entries on the IGI.
Nell
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Hello,
I assume this is the Norman you are looking for.... As I recall you mentioning that your Great-Great-grandfather was named Hector.
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Hope this helped some....
Good luck,
"iolair"
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Have you seen this article from the Argus Friday 1 October 1875? I don't know if it's the same man, but he was also from Invernessshire...
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7421057?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
may be different man after all...
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5852020?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
Ignore the links above.
Found him.
He did indeed die in 1906. Adelaide Advertiser has his funeral notice.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5002443?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
He is buried in West Terrace Cemetery Adelaide.
also In Memoriams posted by his widow
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5053865?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5123187?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
Kirsty
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Two possibilities at the moment - both born in Inverness (the county, rather than the town)
Norman McKinnon 15 Oct 1856 South Uist, parents Hector McKinnon & Peggy MacLeod
Norman McKinnon 15 Jul 1858 Harris, parents John McKinnon & Anne Campbell
You need to check these out at ScotlandsPeople since both are submitted entries on the IGI.
Nell
legwind,
I suspect the Norman you are looking for is the one born South Uist. I recall you mentioning a Hector MacKinnon in one of your other posts on this site.
Good luck all,
"iolair"
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Kirsty,
That's definitely him, in the death notices. Its amazing what people find! How did you get onto that site? Do I have to pay to do that search?
So now I've confirmed his date of death, what next?
Will a death certificate (if and where I can get one of them) contain info about his exact date of birth?
What about finding out when he came to Australia? His wife was born in India I believe, and I've heard he may have visited there. Perhaps he went there from Scotland, met her, and moved here?
And thanks iolair, I had found that record, the only problem I have is that I believe this Norman was born 9th Sept 1856. Could the dates just be wrong? And I only mentioned his father as being Hector as I had found this record. :)
Have you seen this article from the Argus Friday 1 October 1875? I don't know if it's the same man, but he was also from Invernessshire...
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7421057?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
may be different man after all...
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5852020?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
Ignore the links above.
Found him.
He did indeed die in 1906. Adelaide Advertiser has his funeral notice.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5002443?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
He is buried in West Terrace Cemetery Adelaide.
also In Memoriams posted by his widow
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5053865?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5123187?searchTerm=norman+mackinnon
Kirsty
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Hiya,
Given it is IGI, anything is possible. So it could just be the dates mixed up.
But other then that it looks like the right person.
Good luck :)
iolair
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You don't have to pay for the Newspaper site.
I have seen that you do have to pay for South Australia certificates and there is no online search currently. There are a couple of places that do transcriptions of documents.
Useful links here:
http://www.coraweb.com.au/bdmau.htm
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/births-marriages-deaths/
It looks like you were unlucky. Had he lived another year longer you would have got a lot more information on his death certificate.
Kirsty
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There is a possible entry for Margaret Nelson, birth and christening in India on the IGI, 1860 to Joseph and Agnes Nelson.
For more info on India try here: http://www.fibis.org/
Kirsty
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Kirsty,
I found some good info on those S.A. sites. Including a date they arrived in Adelaide!
They came over on the ship Devon (I don't now where it departed from) arriving in Port Adelaide on the 4th March 1880. I also then found a record of him starting work with the Police on the 5th November 1880. He was married then, and was married prior to departure (as his wife's name was also on the list I found). This is where I found the info re the ship (GRG35/48 Records relating to official assisted immigration - Crown Lands and Immigration Office)
I haven't been able to find a passenger list for that ship however, and I don't know where it departed from, and who got on where.
I assume for any more info re: the police record, I probably have to visit the State Library?
Thanks for all the help, by the way.
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I don't see a passenger list anywhere obvious either, however I have found newspaper entries on it's arrival.The Devon arrived on the 3rd April 1880 from London. It would appear there was a measles epidemic onboard.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5976827?searchTerm=devon+adelaide
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5977104?searchTerm=devon+adelaide
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/902836?searchTerm=devon+adelaide
The State Library and State Records look to be full of goodies for family history research, unfortunately you really need to be there in person to sift through it all by the looks of things.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=381
http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/readingroom/advice/plistsin.html
Kirsty
edit: For details on things like the police records it might be worth posting a query on the Australia Board, you'll find quite a few folk there with a lot more knowledge about such matters than I have. ;)
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Kirsty,
Wow, thanks for that. I've really got to learn how to search that newspapers site better... didn't think of looking for Devon!
And you misquoted the date slightly... it was in March. And I'd say on the 2nd or 3rd March. :)
I'll be in Adelaide for Xmas, so it looks like I'll have lots of documents to pick up, hopefully!
And yes, I'll try posting a question to the Australia forum, see if anyone there can tell me more about the Devon.
Thanks for all yours and everyones help too, by the way.
I don't see a passenger list anywhere obvious either, however I have found newspaper entries on it's arrival.The Devon arrived on the 3rd April 1880 from London. It would appear there was a measles epidemic onboard.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5976827?searchTerm=devon+adelaide
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5977104?searchTerm=devon+adelaide
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/902836?searchTerm=devon+adelaide
The State Library and State Records look to be full of goodies for family history research, unfortunately you really need to be there in person to sift through it all by the looks of things.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=381
http://www.archives.sa.gov.au/readingroom/advice/plistsin.html
Kirsty
edit: For details on things like the police records it might be worth posting a query on the Australia Board, you'll find quite a few folk there with a lot more knowledge about such matters than I have. ;)
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And you misquoted the date slightly... it was in March. And I'd say on the 2nd or 3rd March. :)
Oops! I think I had been staring at far too many newspaper pages from different dates by then!
That's why I always like to post the original source for info - then typos don't matter.
It's great that you can make it to Adelaide, so many people are not able to get to the archives in person, I hope you find what you are looking for.
Kirsty