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Title: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: scruffyones on Friday 23 October 09 05:08 BST (UK)
searching for information on a Mary Elizabeth STEPHENSON and her family (amended)

she had a daughter in new zealand Sarah Houghton STEPHENSON in 1879 in the Inch Clutha Parish. and a son Houghton in 1881


what was the name of her husband, was he from etc?
could Houghton be her maiden name?
when and where was she born?
did they have any other chidlren before new zealand?
how long were they in new zealand for (if they are from england/scotland)?

i have a great grandmother sarah houghton STEPHENSON  who married in Western Australia in 1899 to Charles Henry BROWN. are they the same person?


hope to have the help from someone soon?

cheers

Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: SPC on Friday 23 October 09 05:23 BST (UK)
Hi scruffyones,

Husband was John.

There were a few siblings born in NZ:


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Simon
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: mare on Friday 23 October 09 05:25 BST (UK)
Hi there, I've found Sarah's birth on our BDM site, you may want to discover it for yourself and any others  ;) 1879/3591 mother Mary Elizabeth father John
http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3dbirths#SearchResults
Cheers  :) mare

Hi there Simon ... quicker on the button than me  ;D
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: aniph on Friday 23 October 09 05:27 BST (UK)
Snap

Also on the above records she is Mary Elizabeth.

Seeing Houghton twice, it may be her maiden name.


Annie
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: mare on Friday 23 October 09 05:30 BST (UK)
Snap


 :) We're not getting the red notices at the moment Annie, to let us know others have posted ... cohorts on scruffyones case  ;D mare
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: aniph on Friday 23 October 09 05:33 BST (UK)
Snap


 :) We're not getting the red notices at the moment Annie, to let us know others have posted ... cohorts on scruffyones case  ;D mare

You lot are just too fast!
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: SPC on Friday 23 October 09 06:11 BST (UK)
It might be worth looking to see whether these two births are issue from older brothers (ie William & Thomas)

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Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 23 October 09 07:02 BST (UK)

how long were they in new zealand for (if they are from england/scotland)?

cheers



Hi Scruffyones ........Death Certificates will indicate how long a person has been in NZ.  Ages of Children are listed as well.   

Cheers
KHP :)
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: SPC on Friday 23 October 09 08:14 BST (UK)
The Balclutha Branch (http://www.balcluthagenealogy.org.nz) of the NZSG may be able to assist.
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 23 October 09 11:33 BST (UK)
Hi Scruffyones

It would make awfully good sense to purchase the New Zealand birth record of Sarah Houghton STEPHENSON.   :)
(Request a "printout" of the record - this gives the maximum amount of information.   Ordering information is on the NZ BDM website.)

From 1876, NZ Birth records include the following :

*   Birth places of parents
*   When and where, married.

(I can't see a marriage in NZ for a John STEPHENSON to a Mary Elizabeth / Elizabeth Mary ? ).


Lu


Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 23 October 09 12:03 BST (UK)

Hmmm  ... I see there is a death in WA for Houghton STEPHENSON.

At Karrakatta Cemetery, WA, Wesleyan section, a John and Mary Elizabeth STEPHENSON buried together.  ? 

Might these be the parents of Sarah Houghton STEPHENSON ?

 
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: scruffyones on Friday 23 October 09 12:04 BST (UK)
 thank you everyone for your help so far.

one little piece of information always leads to another thousand questions. especially with this branch as sarah houghton stephenson is all i have from her daughter's marriage certificate.

i discovered her name on the nz bdm but hadnt found her siblings except houghton. which lead me to believe that the name may have been from the maternal side of the family but since there is other stephenson's with houghton must be from the paternal side.

thanks lu for the suggestion for the birth certificate i might have to go along with that.

another question it leads to - why did she leave nz for outback western australia???

KPH - not sure if they do would list how long the person lived in other places on certificates in australia.


o so confusing

thanks again everyone- can only keep searching
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: scruffyones on Friday 23 October 09 12:06 BST (UK)

Hmmm  ... I see there is a death in WA for Houghton STEPHENSON.

At Karrakatta Cemetery, WA, Wesleyan section, a John and Mary Elizabeth STEPHENSON buried together.  ? 

Might these be the parents of Sarah Houghton STEPHENSON ?

 

do you have the link for this ?? please
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 23 October 09 12:11 BST (UK)

Sure.

http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php

Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 23 October 09 12:21 BST (UK)

another question it leads to - why did she leave nz for outback western australia???


Assuming that the John and Mary Elizabeth STEPHENSON buried WA, are her parents, then perhaps the whole family made the move to OZ ?

Incidentally, I don't see a (suitable) death in NZ for a Mary Elizabeth (and searching for a John STEPHENSON death is difficult, without knowing a year of birth.)

Lu

Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: scruffyones on Friday 23 October 09 12:34 BST (UK)
thanks again lu

all the surnames in my family are common names, so i know searching for them without much information isnt easy. o well makes it all the more intriguing
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 23 October 09 12:43 BST (UK)
Hi

Common names.   ::)   :D   Yes, that's why it's important really to get official BDM records for verification  ... believe me, without them, it's so easy to "go down wrong pathways" only to find out eventually that you've got "the wrong family".   :)

To find out what type of information is included in WA BDM records, have a look at RootsChat's Australian Board >>  Resources Section >> "Western Australian Records" :

Lu
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: SPC on Friday 23 October 09 13:17 BST (UK)
another question it leads to - why did she leave nz for outback western australia???


Mary Elizabeth is listed as living in Subiaco at her death - probably suburban even 100 years ago and certainly more so than Kaitangata.

Simon
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Friday 23 October 09 21:07 BST (UK)
A little bit of information.

Houghton Stephenson was admitted to Denniston school on the 10 Jan 1887
His birth date is recorded as 2 August 1881 and he left this school on 16 December 1890 for Waimangaroa School

Houghton Stephenson..... He was admitted on 12 April 1891 to Waimangaroa School and the last day was 26 September 1892.   Reason he left was because the destination was for Australia :D

So this should help for how long in NZ for Houghton Stephenson.

Further enquiries for the above to the Nelson NZSG

Cheers
KHP







Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: MichelleHolt on Tuesday 30 April 24 09:03 BST (UK)
Mary Elizabeth Murgatroyd/ Stephenson 1850 - 1909 ,her parents joseph/ Elizabeth
Hope this helps
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: Lucy2 on Friday 03 May 24 03:19 BST (UK)
Hello MichelleHolt ... welcome to RootsChat   :)

... just to say that the original poster of this query, was last online in this forum back in October 2017.
[Even though some time has passed, there's always the chance there will be a response to new information being posted.   :) ]

I did notice too, that there are now quite a number of family trees (about 39 - 45), for both Houghton STEPHENSON and Sarah Houghton STEPHENSON (BROWN) on the ancestry.com website.
A number of these trees are also supported with copies of (official) documents - e.g. Death Certificate for John STEPHENSON (aged 92) d. 1941 ... along with further info from England sources.

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Searching STEPHENSON
Post by: KarenMcCreath on Tuesday 07 May 24 12:38 BST (UK)
Hi Lu, sorry to jump on this thread, the Bible of Thomas McCreath is my father's great grandfather, my grandads father, and my great great grandfather, I'm new to the forum, so unsure about how I would male contact with chrisuk2 amd whether the family Bible that has been missing for such a long time is still available thank you for your time Karen McCreath