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Title: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: mdotdeen on Monday 19 October 09 13:04 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am trying to find when/where Charlotte Agnes Deen (nee Brown) was buried.  According to the 1954 census, she was living at the Hotel Lithgow, working as a chef at age 72.  I cannot find a listing in the NSW BDM therefore ?? if she died in QLD as she had family there. 

Any tips on how I can find out more info would be appreciated.

Cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 20 October 09 06:23 BST (UK)
Do you know where her husband is buried?

Jenn
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: mdotdeen on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:02 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am not sure where he is buried.  There is a bloke by the same name as Charlotte's husband (Charles Mohamed) in the nsw bdm index who died in 1975 but I think that would have made him about 97 years old.  He was an  Indian Hawker and labourer so he would have done well to live to that age.

If there is no listing on the nsw bdm death index, does that mean that Charlotte didn't die in nsw (or maybe that she got remarried late in life??)?

Thanks

mike
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:08 BST (UK)
Was her husbands name Charles Mohamed or Charles Mohamed Deen?

What were her parents names please

thanks Jenn
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: mdotdeen on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:09 BST (UK)
thanks for this.  Charlotte's husband was Charles Mohamed Deen.

Mike
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: mdotdeen on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:11 BST (UK)
sorry, and her parents were Sarah Ann Brown (nee Byron) and William Brown.
William was American.

Mike
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: judb on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:13 BST (UK)
On the Ryerson index of Death notices is a Charles Deen of Penrith died January 1975 but he was aged 64 so it looks as though he doesn't match.

Interesting, though, as the surname and combination of forenames are pretty unusual.

http://ryersonindex.net/search.php

Judith
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:17 BST (UK)
Did they have a son with the same names I wonder?

Jenn
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: mdotdeen on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:19 BST (UK)
Thanks Judith.  I do know that Charlotte's son, Charles died in 1975 but his middle name wasn;t Mohamed.  Charles Jnr did live around Penrith from what I understand.

I do not think that Charles was Charles Mohamed Deen's birth name.  He was born in Pakistan (India at that time) so I would imagine that the name Charles was adopted by him on his arrival.  I have been unable to trace his entry into Australia.

Mike
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:32 BST (UK)
I see that the couple had a number of children in Qld



Marm Deed born 1909 reg no C2918
Omine Deen born 1909 reg no C2919
Cumimnure Doret Deen born 1909 C2920
Bibbie Jane Deen born 1909 reg no C2921

this would indicate quads but maybe all four children were registered at the same time
Elam Deen born 1908 reg no C12331
Robert Deen born 1909 reg no C12371

Charles Futtah Deen born 1910 reg no C13273
Allan  Deen born 1914reg noC15901

Jenn


Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: mdotdeen on Tuesday 20 October 09 13:39 BST (UK)
There were a couple of kids.  My understanding is that they lived out around Texas in QLD and that it took them a while to register the kids.  My gt-gma Nora (Cumimnure) was actually born in 1904.  I think that the Charles Futtah listed in your response was the fellow who died in 1975.

Mike
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: duinnsleibhe on Thursday 22 October 09 13:12 BST (UK)
Hi Mike

In light of the information provided in this thread, and with no satisfactory answer to your question being posted here yet, i thought i might offer the following as a *possible* lead.  My apologies in advance if it leads you astray or if you have already discounted it in your research.  ;D

According to the NSW Governments on-line index to deaths:

in 1961 is recorded the death of Charlotte Agnes DEEGAN, Father William, Mother Elizabeth(i see this doesn't line up but meh...).  The event was registered in PENRITH district.

I am supposing that this could be a possible transcription error of DEEN in the index. 
For what it's worth, this is the only person with the Last Name DEEGAN whose death was registered at PENRITH.


Submitted for your interest.
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: CassT on Wednesday 12 September 12 00:58 BST (UK)
Hi Mike

there is another Rootschatter  Melmaree searching this same family

She is looking for Charlotte's Husband Charles Mahomed Deen

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,614824.msg4636991.html#msg4636991

Cass
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: pattyjanetoo on Tuesday 04 August 20 10:13 BST (UK)
Hi Mike - I've just been trying to find out all about Cumimnure Doret Deen (Nora) for a little story I'm researching.  I am the grandaughter of Charles and Patricia Deen (Penrith).  Did Nora marry Alfred Hannibal Cosh by any chance?  I realise you were looking for Charlottes place of burial a fairly long time ago.  I have a copy of her Death Certificate (from another cousin) registration number 1961/0349936 in the District of Sydney - that says she was cremated at Woronora Crematorium.  I'm today-new to rootschat, and am not sure if we're able to make direct contact??  I'd love to share information with you and melmaree.

Warmest regards to you all

Trish
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: Jennaya on Wednesday 05 August 20 07:30 BST (UK)
Hi Trish

Welcome to Rootschat. After you make 3 posts here, you are able to communicate by personal message. The posts could be as simple as replying this post.
The person who wrote the original post will get an email message saying you have posted here - if they still have the same email address and have turned on the feature of email notifications.
Hopefully they will be notified and contact you.

Regards
Jennaya
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: pattyjanetoo on Wednesday 05 August 20 08:01 BST (UK)
Hi Jennaya - thanks for that!! It's all a bit tricky to get my head around initially  :D   Trish
Title: Re: Where is Charlotte DEEN buried?
Post by: Andrew Brown on Friday 13 June 25 03:36 BST (UK)
Looks like Charlotte is buried in Woronora Memorial Park in Sutherland NSW.