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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: donagher on Monday 19 October 09 02:11 BST (UK)
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Hi i am first of all only learning how to do this so please be patient with me.
I am trying to find info on john latham born 1810 porlock,somerset.
Parents were william and joan latham nee taylor, John ended up in tasmania how???
He also marrried Mary Williams 1842 but tasmania have no records of the marriage, he later married mary oneil in tasmania.
I can't find him as a convict and i have no idea where to look if he was a passenger or if his parents were.
Hoping someone can put me in the right direction..Thank-you
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hi
Do you know when he entered Australia /Tasmania could he have married his first wife on board ship?
How do you know they married in 1842?
cheers cardiff
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Hi i dont really know that he married in 1842 as tassy info says that was the first child born there, so they go by that date, and i do not know if he married mary on ship or not.
Cheers Kaye
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Welcome donagher :)
To start with all the info on the Lathams is submitted on the IGI and needs to be checked.
The actual marriage record, extracted, is on;
www.freereg.org.uk
William LATHAM
Joan TAYLOR
St Dubricius', Porlock, Somerset
10 April 1797
There is an Edward, possible brother, who marries 1799 and 1810 also.
Only child born to this couple William/Joan on this site is;
BETTY Latham, 01 December 1799, St Dubricius', Porlock
Checking with soundex we have;
LATHEM;
BETTY, 01 December, 1799
BETTY, 28 June 1801
EDWARD, 06 February 1803
JOHN, 12 April 1807
SARAH, 10 April 1808
JOHN, 17 June 1810 ( Twin Sons)
WILLIAM, 17 June 1810 (Twin Sons)
JAMES, 25 August 1811
All christened St Dubricius, parents William/Joan
I would say first Betty and John died and other children were named after them.
Possible deaths,
Betty Latham, 02 February 1800, Porlock
John Latham, 19 July 1807, Porlock
Oh, sad;
William Lathem, 04 November 1810, Porlock, infant- twin son.
And John , infant son-twin, as well same day.
Back to the drawing board I think .
Where did the info on John Lathams parents come from???
Trish :)
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Hi Trish thank-you for the info i do have a lot of that and its confusing alright, i got my info on john latham off latter day saints site, the person who submitted this info on john latham was a descendant of the lathams and she said she got it from the lds records.
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This is a bit random!!
Just for your information ........ there are Latham's still in Porlock, not sure if they are related, it is a very small beautiful village and I know there is one family living there.
Regards
Alyson
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Hi Alyson thank-you for that, i tried to find out about lathams still in porlock, but i never had much luck.
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The John Latham who married "Mary Williams" in Tasmania is actually from Birmingham, and he married Mary Stanaway, which is the real name of "Mary Williams". I've done the family history of the Lathams, so if you want to know more, contact me. Gasser.
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Welcome to Rootschat Gasser :)
How wonderful you have info on the Lathams.
Kaye/donagher will be pleased.
So he would have been Christened 04 Feb 1810, Bristol, Gloucestershire to JOHN/MARY?
John LATHAM Married Mary CURTICE, 26 September 1808, St Philip and St Jacob, Bristol, Glous?
(Extracted Records F/S Pilot)
After you have made 3 posts on here the Personal Messaging System will be activated and you can exchange email addys with Kaye.
Cheers,
Trish :)
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No, he was born on 3 Nov 1810 in Birmingham. He was baptised at St Phillip's Church. His father was Charles and his mother Sarah, possibly Sarah Jones. He was transported to Tasmania on the Woodford on 2 May 1828 for life for housebreaking and arrived in Hobart on 25 August 1828. He eventually married Mary Stanaway, who was born in 1810 probably in Birmingham, and had been transported on the Sir Charles Forbes for life for highway robbery, arriving Tasmania on 3 January 1827.
It was Mary's third marriage. Her first marriage, on 25 Oct 1830, was to John Williamson, a convict transported for 7 years for theft on the Lady East, arriving Tasmania 9 April 1825. He died, and on 21 March 1838 she married Charles Osborne, a free man. She ran off with John Latham soon after, as they had a child called Elizabeth, who died in gaol, where her mother had been sent for leaving her husband and getting pregnant with another man, on 4 Nov 1840. Mary seems to have called herself Mary Williams (after husband No. 1) and this has confused most genealogists, including me for a long time. Mary and John finally married on 3 September 1855, presumably because Charles Osborne had died. In the meantime, they'd had five more children, the youngest of whom Joseph Albert Victor Latham, born in Franklin on 2 July 1851, was my great-great grandfather.
Gasser
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Hi Gasser,
How fascinating your Family is and what intensive research you have gone into in tracing John and Mary.
At least all this info is now out there for future researchers.
Hopefully Kaye will reply soon :)
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I forgot to add that Mary Stanaway Williamson Osborne Latham died on 10 Dec 1875 in Franklin Tas - I have a photo of her grave - and John remarried. His second wife was Mary O'Neill (1832-16 Nov 1902?) on 8 Sept 1880. John died in Hobart on 12 April 1885 and although he is not on the headstone is, I believe, buried in the same grave as Mary Stanaway at St John's Anglican Church in Franklin. I am in contact with descendants of John and Mary's daughter, Mary Ann Latham Hogan, and have photos of her.
If Kaye Donaher is in Tasmania, I will be there from 15 Nov to 15 December this year.
Gasser
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Hi Gasser,
Kaye seems to have not been on Rootschat since 11 October 2010.
If her email address is still the same as you have now made 3 posts you can PM her through here (click on her user name).
She will get an email notifying her of your interest.
She may be away and hasnt found all this yet.
Trish :)
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Hi i am sorry i have not been on lately moving house etc, i have contacted gasser and she has passed a lot of info onto me which i appreciated, so now i have my lathams sorted out which is great thanks to all for your help.
I am still trying to get info on my grandmother emma cecilia latham nee donagher, she married alfred latham. Her parents were james and sarah donagher, nee williams . All the certs i have are all different spelling of donagher i have james donagan on marriage cert, i have james donagher on his death cert, i have for their 2 sons donacher and donagher. As for sarah the wife of james well her b/cert is williamson and her marriage cert is williams she was born 1861, her parents on her b/cert are john williamson and sarah harbud, but when i tried to find her on tasmania archives i found 2 sarah williams born 1861 and both of them had married different people and not james donagan.
James and sarah married 10th march 1885 at st peters church oatlands tasmania, also i have exhausted all avenues of finding a birth register for my grandmother emma, she says on her marriage cert she was born in launceston 1888, i have certs for her brothers charles and james and all their info right through to their deaths..So i think i may have to give up on looking for info on her i have tried a researcher also and she cant find anything on emma.
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Allow an American cousin to come in late on this conversation. My thanks to donagher for getting it started and Trish and gasser for providing so much information at once. My wife is a Latham descendant from EDWARD, (ch 06 February 1803) son of William and Joan and husband of Sarah Jane Stenner (of Selworthy). I only just found their names and dates from a recently published Michigan death record.
This part of the family came to Canada for a few years, then part (brothers John and Edward [who married a Hobbs from Polock/Selworthy area]) moved to Port Austin, Huron County, Michigan.
Gasser mentioned having done a lot with the Latham line. If it includes the Porlock family I would like to compare what I have gleaned/concluded for family units. If that checks out then I have questions about the pre-Porlock origins of the family (I read Brenden, Devon someplace) and the quest for the maternal families which I believe to be Joan Taylor (Dunster?), daughter of Philip and Alice Beague, but that is another thread if we don't share that side of the family.
Regards
Dale the Michigander
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Hi Dale,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Do you have access to census entries:
Joan may still be alive in 1841.
I can post if you want.
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As you gave gone off-line Dale I will post anyhow;
1841 Census
Porlock, Somerset
HO107/936/10/Porlock
Joan LATHAM, 75
John Latham, 9
Sarah FLOYDE, 30
John Floyde, 5
No occupations for anyone.
All born in County
Living nearby;
JAMES Latham, 25, Ag Lab
Louisa?, 25
William, 6mths
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LATHAMS;
Anc. has a tree with this info re William but no actual Records sited;
William LATHAM born c 1765, Lynton, Devon, died 05 March 1834, Porlock, Somerset age 69
IGI has this Extracted Christening Record;
William LATHAM, 16 June 1763, Lynton, Devon
Parents, SAMUEL/ELIZABETH
Sibings on same Batch;
ELIZABETH, 08 October 1750
JOAN, 24 Dec 1766
Large gap in ages there so others may have been Christened elsewhere
IGI has a Submitted Marriage of SAMUEL Latham to Elizabeth GRIMSHIRE,
04 Dec 1749, Lynton, Devon
TAYLORS;
Marriage;
15 June 1758, All Saints, Selworthy, Somerset
Philip TAYLOR
Alice BEAGUE
(Source FreeREG)
He may have also remarried to Elizabeth TAYLOR, 29 Jan 1785.
They are both Widowed. This is also on FreeREG.
Burial of Elizabeth Taylor age 83, 12 August 1815, Selworthy
Trish :)
APOLOGIES to everyone for taking over the original thread!
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Trish1120:
Thanks for such a rapid and promising response. Time to hop over the border and look in Lynton.
We are meeting next week for a memorial of Ruth Hunter Leighton, William and Joan Latham's great x 6 granddaughter. She would have been thrilled to hear of her Somerset and Devon roots.
Dale the Michigander
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Maybe this following info already obtained but havent read it on any posts yet.
James Donager/Donegher was married to Sarah Elizabeth Sophia WILLIAMS b. May 1866 her Parents were Sarah ABEL.m.Ellis WILLIAMS .Sarah Elizabeth later .m.Daniel Priest.
My interest is by marriage my family drop in way back.I cannot verify this info but maybe available through contact with the below
http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=chazz&id=I252 (call My Australian Familes)
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Hello sorry i have not answered you but have been way laid on other fam tree grrrrrr
I have all the correct info on our john latham now thank goodness and i have been in contact with a few descendants so i have finally put it all together now, i dont know if i mentioned or not but my line is
john, his son william who married maryann tame, their son alfred who married emma donagher, their son stan who had 2 marriages 1st was to elvie dillon and then to mavis joseph nee strong from cygnet.
At the moment i am having a hell of a time trying to get emma donaghers birth details which is a total pain.
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Hi Gasser,
I too am a descendant of John latham and Mary Stannaway through their eldest son Charles. I have a couple of photo's of Charles if you are interested. perhaps we can assist each other with info too. Hope you are still on Rootschat!
Michelle in Tas
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I am descended from William Latham who presumably was born in England around 1822....I don't know his parents names or which section he lived but I do have a letter written to him from his father in law, John Adamson from West Leigh in 1852...John Adamson's wife's maiden name, I've been told, was Alice Smith...
William came to Pennsylvania in America around 1830, becoming a legal citizen on September 27, 1844. He died on 3 December 1886 and is buried in Philadelphia, PA.
Some of his childrens names are, Alice, Sarah Ellen(or Ella) James and Hannah Margaret....
He must have married Maria Adamson(ca. 1822-17 Oct 1885) before 1844....
Was wondering if he too could be related to John Latham...
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I am descended from William Latham who presumably was born in England around 1822....I don't know his parents names or which section he lived but I do have a letter written to him from his father in law, John Adamson from West Leigh in 1852...John Adamson's wife's maiden name, I've been told, was Alice Smith...
William came to Pennsylvania in America around 1830, becoming a legal citizen on September 27, 1844. He died on 3 December 1886 and is buried in Philadelphia, PA.
Some of his childrens names are, Alice, Sarah Ellen(or Ella) James and Hannah Margaret....
He must have married Maria Adamson(ca. 1822-17 Oct 1885) before 1844....
Was wondering if he too could be related to John Latham...
It seems that my ancestor WILLIAM LATHAM may have in fact been born in 1815 Leigh/Westleigh. We recently discovered that he came to the United States in 1830 aboard the ship BRUNSWICK that left from Liverpool, arriving in Perth Amboy, New Jersey on 12 July 1830, with his parents Harry and Hannah Latham.
When William's wife(Maria Adamson)'s father married Alice Smith on 10 June 1798 in Wigan, Lancashire, his witnesses were William Bancks and PETER LATHAM. Perhaps, Peter is also related to our Latham families.
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Baptisms, St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire,
Parents PETER/ESTHER, abode Westleigh
JEFFREY 01 Jan 1782 (Fathers name only Peter)
BETTY 03 April 1784
SARAH 11 June 1785
JAMES 27 Jan 1787
MARY 19 Oct 1788
MARTHA 17 Nov 1793
MARTHA 11 Oct 1795
Peter LATHOM of Ormskirk Parish Married Esther PYE of Ormskirk Parish, 19 Sept 1779, St Peter/St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire
Burial of a PETER Latham, Son of PETER/ESTHER, 28 Jan 1783 Ormskirk (havent found Baptism)
All on FreeREG.
Trish :)
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Thank you Trish,
It gives me something to go on with the research on the Lathams in my family tree....
John