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Title: Help needed
Post by: karen1960 on Saturday 17 October 09 22:23 BST (UK)
Hi
  Still new to this  How do i try and find out if my grandfather went to Australia and stayed there after emigrating. I have found one person who it could be, but don't know how to go from here or what sight to go on, He could have dies in Australia but don't know how to find out.
His name is THOMAS SCOTT  born 5/4/1906 i think  left UK about 1928

Any help i would be most grateful
regards
Karen
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Peonie on Sunday 18 October 09 02:20 BST (UK)
Hi Karen and welcome to Rootschat.

Sorry I can't help you, but I think you should put your post on the Australia Board
(*) and say that you posted here already. I'm sure there are Rootschatters who can help you'

Good luck, Peonie

(*) Moderator Comment: moved :)
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: karen1960 on Sunday 18 October 09 11:14 BST (UK)
Thanks Peonie

Blimmey not as easy as i first thought this tracing of family
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 18 October 09 12:33 BST (UK)
Karen

Do you know what job he did,who he might have travelled with,where he came from in the UK(big place  ;D) or who his parents were?

Was he single when he emigrated or married?

The more info we have the more chance we have of finding him for you.

I'm sure you can appreciate with a surname like Scott there are likely to be quite a few candidates  ;)

Carol
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: karen1960 on Sunday 18 October 09 13:38 BST (UK)
Hi Carol
            Thank you for your reply.
All my father knows about his dad is that, he was born in Scotland(midlothian area) and went to Australia about 1928-1930, he was a sandpit worker in scotland.

We found his mother last year unfortunately she passed away, and found out she worked in a poorhouse.( Mary boner Aitchison 1905-1983) as my father was fostered out the only thing we have really is his name Thomas Scott(Canbera austraila).
And as you have said there are hundreds of them, trying to narrow them down found one who was born 05/04/1906(so could be) father Robert James   mother Marion Lawnie.  thats as far as i've got PHEW!!

thank you
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: wivenhoe on Sunday 18 October 09 19:29 BST (UK)

What is the connection between your Thomas Scott and Canberra, Australia - was it a last known address or something? Were your father's parents married - would Thomas have been able to legally marry in Australia? What sort of age could Thomas he - when was your father born?

Fryerning
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: karen1960 on Sunday 18 October 09 21:16 BST (UK)
Hi Wivenhoe
                   Thank you for your reply.
My grandfather Thomas Scott left Scotland and emigrated to Canberra Australia in 1928-1930. thats all we know of him.
No my father's parents weren't married, my father was fostered out when he was born.
We managed to get the sealed records for (name of mother/ father) all it said for father is Canberra Australia sandpit worker. not sure if he married in Austraila
My Dad thinks his father would have been born 1904/1906. nothing else i'm afraid.
and my dad was born 1928 in Scotland his name is Thomas Scott Aitchison

thank you
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: ennael on Sunday 18 October 09 22:02 BST (UK)
there are 4 Thomas SCOTT listings here.

http://www.canberraheritageportal.org/default.php

Leanne
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: karen1960 on Sunday 18 October 09 22:52 BST (UK)
there are 4 Thomas SCOTT listings here.

http://www.canberraheritageportal.org/default.php

Leanne

I could Kiss you lol  thanks very much for that, not sure what the dates at the end mean
but he used to be a sandpit worker  so a labourer could be
thanks Leanne
not sure what i do next lol
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: ennael on Sunday 18 October 09 23:03 BST (UK)
the dates are the Electoral Roll Registration years.
Leanne
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 18 October 09 23:04 BST (UK)
They are from the A.C.T Electoral Rolls 1916 — 1967- so I would imagine the dates are the year that the names appear on the electoral roll  ;)

Carol

Snap Leanne  ;D
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: nudist on Tuesday 20 October 09 10:06 BST (UK)
I look after the Canberra Electoral rolls site. I have some potential new leads Karen1960 about your relative if the information the info the roll is  correct. I understand I need to post three comments before I can send a private message.
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: carol8353 on Tuesday 20 October 09 10:18 BST (UK)
Nudist( love the name ;D)

I'm sure Karen will be pleased to hear from you.

Reply to this and you'll have your 3 postings!

Carol
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: canberra ann on Wednesday 21 October 09 07:08 BST (UK)
I have had a look through the Electoral rolls that I have for Canberra and have found only one Thomas WB Scott who was a likely one - he lived for a time at 20 Westlake with his wife, Eileen and mother-in-law Mrs Leech. The couple were killed in a level crossing accident on 2.8.1945.  Thomas was 39 and his wife 37 - they are buried in the Woden Cemetery in Canberra in the Methodist section.  I had a look at 1928 which was the first electoral roll after WW1 and he is not there. But he could have been here and not regisitered - it wasn't compulsory at that time.  He may also have been in nearby NSW - Queanbeyan and come to work here.  The Great Depression started in Canberra after the opening of parliament in May 1927 and by 1920 many had left.  Will keep an eye out for your Thomas - Ann
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: canberra ann on Wednesday 21 October 09 07:11 BST (UK)
One more thing - the BDMs for NSW are on-line - the deaths I think go up to around the 1970s and the marriages quite late too - births on-line only until 1905 - however, Canberra which is the Australian Capital Territory - registered BDM in NSW until facilities became available and the various laws etc in place in 1930 - so go on line and check BDM for NSW - may help. Ann
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: judb on Wednesday 21 October 09 08:13 BST (UK)
Westlake was a suburb of Canberra set up for workers during the building and expansion of Canberra from about 1920s and no longer there.

Ann, may I ask where this accident was - I can't find deaths for that date in NSW or ACT - but only had a quick look so could have missed it.


Cheers, Judith
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 21 October 09 09:09 BST (UK)
Hi,
A Thomas William Scott is listed as dying in Canberra  31/12/1968.

No other details shown.


Sue

The couple were killed in a level crossing accident on 2.8.1945.  Thomas was 39 and his wife 37 - they are buried in the Woden Cemetery in   CANBERRANN reply#13


Just ADDING

The Cemetery details show the burials of these two people to be
5/8/1955 not 45

This would  ALTER the calculated birth date and rule him out of Contention I think .
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: karen1960 on Wednesday 21 October 09 17:56 BST (UK)
Hi Everybody
Gosh i'm overwelmed with the response thank you all so much.
I think the couple killed on the level crossing may not be him if the accident was 1955 and he was 39yrs of age which means he would have been born 1916 which is to late.

My dad thinks it would be around 1906 he was born and the only name had was Thomas Scott and the other was Thomas William Scott.
He think he emigrated 1928-1930 thats all we have i'm afraid

Thanks again
Karen
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: canberra ann on Wednesday 21 October 09 22:21 BST (UK)
I lived at Westlake between 1941 and 1959.  The site of my house is in Stirling Park, Yarralumla - I have transcribed the Woden Cemetery Burial register - this is where this information is available.  I also heard the story many times about Eileen nee Leech.  Her brother died a few years earlier - he dived into the Acton Pool (Molonglo River) - supposed to be bottomless - and hit his head - broke his neck and died.  This is reported in the Canberra Times as well.  I have put my main web page below that has a basic list of people buried in the Woden Cemetery between 1936 and up to and including some of early 1960s.  The Cemeteries for the ACT are also on-line with less detail.

No 20 Westlake the site is near the fence of the American Embassy opposite where Darwin Avenue joins Perth Avenue. The site of the first twenty cottages is in the embassy area bounded by Darwin Ave Forster Cres and Empire Circuit. The sites of the remaining 41 cottages is in Striling Park and the old roads are still in situ.

http://hiddencanberra.webs.com/historyofcanberra.htm

At the top of this web on the home page is a link to Early Canberra which has articles from papers etc on early canberra and from memory - I put the story of the death under Westlake People in the Odds & Ends section  -


I will not be able to reply to any queries for a few days - computer being made well. Ann