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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Hystericalwriter on Saturday 17 October 09 10:34 BST (UK)
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First posting on this forum
This is my children's ancestors. I have a Catherine Walker who married Samuel Livingstone 13 Aug 1877 in Limavady. I think that I have found them in the 1911 census, but I would like to see if there is anyway to take this family back. Ma in law suggested that they originated from Blantyre Scotland? I have never been able to find out more than this.
I have no Irish ancestors myself, did spend a half day at PRONI two years ago, but my chance of getting there again is difficult.
Annie
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Annie,
Welcome to Rootschat. I found what I also believe to be your Livingstones on the 1911 census and from their ages they were born before Civil registration came into being. This being the case you will have to depend on Church records. As the couple were married in Christchurch Church of Ireland I assume that Catherine Walker was Church of Ireland and from the census Samuel is Presbyterian. There are three main Presbyterian churches in Limavady and several others in the outlying area which will make life difficult.
Griffith's Valuation, 1858, lists no Livingstones in Limavady but there is one Livingston in the Parish of Drumachose (Limavady). He is Samuel, renting a house in Pound Lane. This was a street which ran from the end of Protestant Street to what is now Massey Avenue.
Finally I wondered if the John, living in Protestant Street in 1911 with his family, could be the son of Samuel Catherine.
Regards
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Hi Annie...
Just a thot to share with you....my grt grt Grandmother was Rachel Livingston, (have also found it spelt Levingston) her father was Malcolm...anyways, she lived in Pound lane and Protestant street as Rachel Thompson (she married Robert Thompson in 1869)....I have found it interesting for many years that Samuel lived on the same street, makes me believe there is a connection as families tended to stay in the same area's....but I cannot provide any solid proof yet.
all the best
Wendy
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I know nothing going backwards, but ma in law said that Catherine and Samuel had11 children, John b1878, Mary Jane b 1879, Elizabeth b1881, Hannah b1884, William b1886, George b1888, Isabella b1891 d1891, Marion b1892, Catherine b 1894, Martha b1895, and Samuel b 1897 so if you see any connection here?
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Annie,
According to the 1911 census Catherine, who was spending the night at what is now Linenhall Street as a nurse, had 12 Children, 7 of whom were still alive in 1911.
Regards
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First posting on this forum
This is my children's ancestors. I have a Catherine Walker who married Samuel Livingstone 13 Aug 1877 in Limavady. I think that I have found them in the 1911 census, but I would like to see if there is anyway to take this family back. Ma in law suggested that they originated from Blantyre Scotland? I have never been able to find out more than this.
I have no Irish ancestors myself, did spend a half day at PRONI two years ago, but my chance of getting there again is difficult.
Annie
To carry on from the above, a few bits of info have come into my hands recently along with a few photo:
Catherine LIVINGSTONE and her daughter Marion BAIRD, who's husband was a POW in Germany from 1915-1918. I have a photo of the two women. Any one have knowledge of these either?
Sorry, didn't say thanks!
Annie
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Annie,
William Baird married Marion Livingstone in Limavady 2nd Presbyteriam Church on 29 May 1915
Also James Baird married Mary Jane Livingstone in Limavady 1st Presbyterian Church on 19 Jun 1913
Regards
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Great, thanks for that.
Are these extracts online, or have you copies of parish/church transcripts?
Thanks anyway, I'll add these snippets to the old database!
Annie
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Annie,
These were taken from a subscription site, Emerald Ancestors. However the 1911 census is on line, free, and you can find a Baird family living in Mullagh (Fruithill) whose two eldest sons were James and William. It seems possible that two brothers may have married two sisters. Should I be correct on the families there was another son, Thomas Baird, who died on 1 July 1916 on the Somme.
Regards
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Hi Annie,
I am Jim Baird, a grandson of Mary Jane Livingstone and James Baird.I have just started my search and was not sure where to start so when i found this link i was delighted.
Would it be possible to post the picture of Catherine and Marion as we have no photo,s at all. Also any other info would be much appreciated.
Regards
Jim
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This is Catherine Livingstone and her daughter Marion. Hope it comes through ok
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Many Thanks Annie the picture came thru ok.
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I did an advanced search on the Derry genealogy database and found that the father of Samuel Livingstone married 1877 was Samuel and the father of Catherine Walker married 1877 was Robert.
A search of the IGI which has Drumachose parish register transcript shows christenings in Limavady Church of Ireland that may help:
Samuel Livingstone & Jane [McCallion]
Issue John 1/10/1851
Issue Samuel 3/2/1854
Issue William 27/4/1857
Robert Walker & Mary Young
Issue Catherine 7/10/1858
Mary Jane 10/12/1860
Eliza 8/11/1863
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For Wendl - from Ireland marriages on the IGI, county Londonderry:
Samuel Livingstone, 21, son of Malcomn Livinstone married 19 Aug 1861 in Carrick, [probably Carrick Church of Ireland] to Mary Ann Nutt, daughter of David Nutt
You may have this already ;)
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Wendl,
Another source gives the same marriage, Samuel Livingstone/Mary Ann Nutt, as 29 Aug 1861 in Largy Presbyterian Church, Parish of Carrick, Limavady. This church is about 3 miles south of Limavady on the road to Dungiven on the west bank of the River Roe. IGI gives one child, James, born 10 Jun 1867 and it also uses the spelling Levingstone.
Regards
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Before Mother-in-law passed away, she gave me her information, and most of what you say fits.......but she always maintained that at some stage these 'Livingstones/Levingston etc came from Blantyre in Scotland..........I have never been able to get back further than the IGI entries, do records exist for ordinary working class men when the exodus from Scotland took place?
Thanks for going that extra 'mile' to give information, it's much appreciated.
Annie
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Wendl,
Another source gives the same marriage, Samuel Livingstone/Mary Ann Nutt, as 29 Aug 1861 in Largy Presbyterian Church, Parish of Carrick, Limavady. This church is about 3 miles south of Limavady on the road to Dungiven on the west bank of the River Roe. IGI gives one child, James, born 10 Jun 1867 and it also uses the spelling Levingstone.
Regards
Hi Kingskerswell....
Thanks so much for the information.....and sorry for the delay in responding have been on Holidays.....I don't have this information...so sincerely appreciate it.....Rachel's side of the family has not been very successful search wise...so any information is incredible...Thanks again...Wendy
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Hi Annie
Dont know an awful lot about the livingstones of limavady and indeed if they came from Blantyre Scotland, but I can confirm that the photo that your posted is indeed my mothers mother marion and her grandmother Catherine! I also have this photo. Sadly there are none of my mothers generation left, my mother was Mary Baird, she was one of five children.
Her mother Marion passed away when they were young and they were brought up by their father William who was indeed a POW in the war and had a brother Tommy who was killed in the Somme.
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Hi everyone!
I to I'm related to the Livingstone's. Hessie Simpson was my Gr, Gr, Aunt married to John Livingstone, not sure if any Livingstone's exist today? If possible does anyone have photo's of John & Hessie, would be much appreciated, or photo's relating to their descendants.
Thanks
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This is a photo of Hessie, not too clear(http://)
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And John I think. They were my husband John Livingstone Campbell grandparents I think
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Hi Annie
Thanks for photos! Was your husbands parents Martha & Robert Campbell?
We live Coleraine now but originally from Ballykelly, were of the Beech line.
Hessie's sister Ellen is my Gr Grandmother. You wouldn't by chance have a photo of Matthew Simpson Hessie father?
Rodney
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Yes, John was one of five........sadly he died nearly four years ago, his ashes are in Ballykelly Pres churchyard
No I don't think I have anymore photos, I'll have a look, but these are one I have scanned from the family's collection.
Anne
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Sorry to here that. My grand parents are buried their to.
Is there many of the Campbell line left apart from yourself?
Is there any Livingstone's yet in Protestant St Limavady?
I might have a different old photo of Catherine Walker but scanner not working.
Rodney
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I live in England, not Irish. John & I seperated in the 80s and I remarried. I have done some research of the family mainly for my children, but the other branch of the family isn't really all that interested. Martha would have known all of this, she sent me some stuff before she died, which helped, but I would really need to come to Belfast to go back........I think
Anne
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Sorry to here that. My grand parents are buried their to.
Is there many of the Campbell line left apart from yourself?
Is there any Livingstone's yet in Protestant St Limavady?
I might have a different old photo of Catherine Walker but scanner not working.
Rodney
I would be interested in your photo, just to add to the gallery. Did you know Martha & Robert (Bertie as he was called)?
Thanks
Anne
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I will have a go later for you. My Uncle from Australia mention the Simpsons being related to the Campbell's, but his information was not always accurate. I'm in my late 30s so probable a generation below yourself, I've never spoke to any Campbell's, being doing family research for past few years have Quit a bit of information. If you are every over again you can have a look at the info. My English connection is from the Leeds area, Hessie sister Ellen married Joe Beech still love to know how they met.
Rodney
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Hi Ann
Was talking to my father he knew Bertie, was one of his son's called Errol, Johns brother, he can't remember the sister's name. Bertie's brother was Tommy he had twin daughter's. Do you have the names for John's Bro & Sis and children, that would finish that link. You can send this info to my email instead of here? (*). I have other old photo's but don't know who they are.
Rodney
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Hi Ann
On the back of this photo it's wrote aunt Hessie but it looks like Catherine Walker. A lot of the photo's are stuck to the old photo album. Tried to send it but it was to big, need to try something else.
Rodney
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Hi
I saw this post and i no it was put up in 2013 so i no its a long shot. My Great Grandfather is actually Thomas Campbell and my mum is one of the twins you have mentioned Linda
If you need any more information on the Campbell side please ask
Kerry
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Hi Annie
The Samuel and Catherine you are talking are my Great Grandfather and Grandmother. Their son Samuel is my Grandfather and was born in Protestant St in Limavady - I would be really interested in sharing information with you. We are trying to work on our family tree.
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Hello there,
These are my Mum’s grand parents. She was Janet Livingstone, daughter of John Livingstone from Limavady. John left and moved to Glasgow Scotland.
Regards, Janice Kirkwood