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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: newbe_nz on Friday 16 October 09 08:54 BST (UK)
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Hi there so far I have Margaret PURCELL born 17 August 1860 and her brother Patrick Joseph PURCELL born 5 October 1865.
Their parents are Patrick PURCELL and Cecilia WOOD
On Patrick’s birth image it has a Jane aged 3 and John deceased
I wonder if their births are under WOOD
I now have a record of Cecilia Wood arriving in Australia
Cecilia WOOD arrived aged 19 as an unassisted immigrant in 1857 on ship Roxburgh Castle
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=42
Both Margaret and Patrick died in New Zealand so I do not need help there as i have that info.
I am trying to work out what happened to Patrick PURCELL senior and Cecilia WOOD. I am not sure if they married or not. If they did not marry it just might have been one of those things they put on the registration for at the birth of both children
Not sure where to go next
Newbe
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Hi Newbe,
do you have a year or thereabouts to indicate when Patrick Purcell born 1865 went to NZ (and umm perhaps with whom)...
Cheers, JM
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about 1902/03 with his wife Miriam COLEMAN they married 1891 NSW
Have cert but his parents names are not on it
Soon after they arrived he changed his name to Joseph Henry SMITH and died 1941. If he did not change his name I would not be a SMITH
This is from a newspaper in NZ but do not have the name of it
Photocopy of Newspaper Clipping dated ? 8, 1923
VALEDICTORY
MR. AND MRS J.H. SMITH
In the persons of Mr. and Mrs. J.H. Smith, who are leaving to settle in Hikurangi, Awanui is losing citizens of twenty years standing. In February 1903 Mr. Smith arrived in Awanui with his wife and three children, coming here from Tasmania. At the time of their arrival the Kaitaia Butter Factory had not long been in existence.Mr.Smith was one of the first to start in the poultry business in the district, but after some years he was compelled to give up, the low prices of poultry and eggs rendering the business unremunerative.During his long residence in the district Mr. Smith has taken his fair share in local matters. He was a member of the Awanui School Committee, and was connected with various Agricultural Societies, etc, in the district. In this latter connection he was an exhibitor of poultry, flowers and vegetables, and has also judged for years in the same classes.In sport also Mr. Smith has taken an interest, and was a member of the Waipapkauri Racing Club.When the Court of Pride of Awanui, A.F.O., was opened Mr. Smith was one of the first to join, and went through all the Chairs, being twice C.R. Latterly he was Treasurer. As a foreman under the P.W.D. our departing friend was in charge of the Dalmatians on the river works, and also a ranger .With 13 years service inthe North Auckland Mounted Rifles as a Sergt, Mr Smith was one of the first to volunteer for service with that unit in the Great War, although he had to wait almost two years before he could away, he had spent 18 month's service at the front. Mrs. Smith will be missed in the district where for thirteen years she has given her services as a maternity nurse. No weather was too bad, no distance too great when her services were required. All in all Mr. and Mrs. Smith have been useful and respected citizens in the community, who can ill be spared. We wish them every success in their new home.
Photocopy of Newspaper clipping
FAREWELL SOCIAL AND DANCE
A farewell to Mr. and Mrs. Smith, taking the form of a social and dance, was held in Even's Hall, Awanui. This was tendered by the public of the district and the local Forester's Lodge. There was a large attendance, and the affair went with a swing from start to finish. Dancing was indulged in with vim, and a nice supper was handed around .During the evening Mr. E.C. Matthews made a presentation to Mr. Smith of a solid leather suit case and a pair of military hair brushes in a case, and to Mrs. Smith a handsome E.P. tea set, the latter being from the ladies of the district. In making the presentation Mr. Matthews spoke in very eulogistic terms of Mr. and Mrs. Smith, and described them as people whose departure would be a loss to the district. He wished them success in their new sphere. Mr. Geo. Cosson followed in similar terms, and spoke of Mr. Smith's connection with thr Forester's Lodge in Awanui. He touched also on Mrs. Smith's valuable service in the district .Mr. Smith responed for Mrs. Smith and himself in feeling terms. They regretted leaving the district where twenty years of their lives had been spent, but decided that a change would be a change would be advisable.
Newbe
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Here you go with one of the births, Newbe.....
John WOOD, mother Cecilia WOOD, born in 1863 at LANC
Ref = 3277
Dee :)
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Ta Newbe,
Possible sighting of Patrick PURCELL arriving in Sydney NSW in 1854.... aged 23, Ag Labourer, of Ireland.... Johns Well, Ct Kilkenny.... More genie info on this incoming list ;)
He was coming to his Sydney based brother, John at Surry Hills...
He was R C, could read (ie not write) he paid one pound under the Assisted Immigration Act...
More ::) oh, OK you want to know his parents ??? oh, they were still living too, and living at Johns Well.... Oh, Pierce and Margaret
Umm, Cheers, JM ;D
EDIT TO ADD (oh I supose tis important) the ship was Sabrina, arriving abt 13 July 1854 (to Sydney)
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John ‘s death was in 1864.
Age given as 21 months, birthplace as MELB.
No father listed.
Ref = 1542
No sign of Jane's birth though....... :-\
Dee
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Thanks Dee,
Is there a record for his death
Newbe
Bingo Dee was just asking about this.
Bummer no red warning
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Hard to read Margaret birth image but I think it has Patrick occupation as a labourer
Newbe
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Hi Newbe,
Often they arrived as labourers, and then the gold rush fevers got them and they became miners.... all outdoor heavy work...
JM
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Bingo JM,
Looks like Patrick was a miner when his son Patrick was born
Letting you all know I have a sprained right shoulder so it takes a bit longer to type this
Newbe
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I was wondering since I have not been able to find a marriage for Patrick PURCELL and Cecilia WOOD did Cecilia marry at all in Vic or NSW.
I have tried to look at NSW bdm but can't get online at moment
I have been told that Patrick PURCELL married a Mary SHANNAHAN no date given but she was born abt 1845 Stafford and she was a barmaid
This is all I know
Newbe
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There's this marriage.....
Cecilia WOOD born SCOTLAND married Richard TUCKER in 1873.
Ref = 2336
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee,
That certainly looks like her as she was born Scotland from what I can make out on one of the images of her childrens births
Newbe
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On my first look I can't find her death anywhere.. ...but I'll look again.....
Dee
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Umm
nsw bdm site down at this minute, I seem to remember a similar situation several weeks ago, and it was upgrading their servers, try again Monday...
But, on Patrick Purchell's arrival did you notice I've posted his parents names.... and I think his brother John at Surry Hills arrived 1850 to NSW....
JM
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Just seen it in reply 4
Good work JM
Newbe
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Can't see any children born to Cecilia as a Tucker.
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee
That has saved me asking that question ;D
Newbe
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NSW BDM back online...
Cannot see marriage for PURCELL = WOOD, sorry Newbe..
JM
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That's ok JM
have a look at reply 11 of Dee's
I do not think Patrick married Cecilia at all
Newbe
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Ta Newbe,
Possible sighting of Patrick PURCELL arriving in Sydney NSW in 1854.... aged 23, Ag Labourer, of Ireland.... Johns Well, Ct Kilkenny.... More genie info on this incoming list ;)
He was coming to his Sydney based brother, John at Surry Hills...
He was R C, could read (ie not write) he paid one pound under the Assisted Immigration Act...
More ::) oh, OK you want to know his parents ??? oh, they were still living too, and living at Johns Well.... Oh, Pierce and Margaret
Umm, Cheers, JM ;D
EDIT TO ADD (oh I supose tis important) the ship was Sabrina, arriving abt 13 July 1854 (to Sydney)
Is there a link for this JM
I can not find it
Newbe
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I think this might be Patrick's father's death
#936 Year 1908 PURCELL Pierce
Father: John
Mother: Catherine
District: Burwood
Newbe
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This looks like a daughter
#10809 Year 1902 PURCELL Mary
Father: Pierce
Mother: Margaret
District: Petersham
Newbe
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Hi Newbe,
Most of it is on NSW State Records,
I will amend this post with the link
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/quicksearch.aspx and key word Patrick Purcell, and then assisted immigrants etc
JM
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Thanks JM,
Does it give any other info? Or only what you posted
Newbe
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Bit More,
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au and search for Sabrina 1854.... but does not give passengers names...
JM
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Thanks for those links JM
Newbe
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Hi Newbe,
The details in reply #4 were the best .... but I am now trying to find when/where Pierce Purcell arrived too !
Pierce and Margaret PURCELL were of course in the 1850's parents to at least two adult lads, John and Patrick.... John arrived NSW in 1850 and was apparently still in the vicinity of Sydney (Surry Hills) when Patrick left Ireland as an assisted immigrant in 1854...
Here's hoping I can find the arrival of those lads parents... and that when I do, I can get as much detail as I found for Patrick's 1854 arrival.
Cheers, JM
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Bit More,
1856 Electoral Roll for East Bourke, Whittlesea, Victoria
there's a Pierce Purcell, leaseholder at Darebin Creek .... (I'm not familiar with that area, could be Dorobin or Darobin etc)
Cheers,
JM
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Thanks JM
you are one of the best ;D
Newbe
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Lets see if some one else can tell us more about the area as i know nothing either
Newbe
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And a bit more, although Not Really Sure
1851 Wales Census, Breconshire, and the District Barracks at Brecon...
Patrick Purcell, aged 21, a Private (not sure but read on).... Ag Lab born Kilkenny Gisbeo
Cheers,
JM
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OK - Shall keep that in mind
Newbe
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Also,
I have NOT found Pierce Purcell arriving in Aust at all, but I'm a tad eye-sore... and not really that familiar with Vic records, and definitely not familiar with Welsh or Irish records... But there's Pierce Purchell of Kilkenny on the Irish Land Valuations records apparently...
Cheers, Catch up later.
JM
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Thanks JM
Shall leave it for then night
Cheers
Newbe
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Have found this for Patrick Purcell
Conduct record for Patrick PURCELL, tried Limerick in 1850, received 7 years transportation for receiving stolen goods; arrived on the "Rodney" 1853 aged
29 years -
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07al/
I think he told some porkies about his age on both birth images
newbe
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A Pat Purcell aged 30 also arrived in Victoria on board the Agincourt in February of 1854. 10/205
A Pierse Purcell aged 21 had arrived in Victoria on board the George Fyffe in July 1841 1/39
Whether they're anything to do with your Patrick and Pierce I don't know.
Dee :)
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Thanks Dee,
Will keep it in mind
newbe
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I have some wonderful news ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I have found Patrick PURCELL in NZ :D
He married a Mary SHANNAHAN in 1867 and they had about 8 or 9 children.
I have just been talking to a cousin in QLD via skype for about an hour so am very happy. I now have more cousins etc to search for
This has been a wonderful journey
Newbe
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I have just found this article on Papers past
Link below
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP18830413.2.31&srpos=11&e=-------10--11----0Patrick+PURCELL-all
Let me know what you think. If you can't read it let me know as well and I will tell you what paper it was in.
So it does look like Patrick PURCELL and Cecilia WOOD were never married.
I had to LOL at it
newbe
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;D ;D ;D ;D
The truth will out, Newbe!
Amazing.......and very interesting...... :D :D
Dee
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Is there a way to check and see if there is a marriage in Vic for Patrick PURCELL and this other lady Agnes in 1862 Richmond.
As I say I have his NZ marriage certificate and it says he is a bachelor on it
Regards
Newbe
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Sure is.....
Patrick PURCELL married Agnes McARTHUR 1862
Ref = 4089
Dee :)
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Son born to the the above couple...... James McArthur PURCELL in 1866 at Kerrie.
Ref = 839
Dee :)
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I wonder if that is the son talked about in the article from papers past ::)
This is mind blowing
Thanks Dee for looking this up :D
Newbe
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Son born to the the above couple...... James McArthur PURCELL in 1866 at Kerrie.
Ref = 839
Dee :)
Hi There,
Just wondering if there is a marriage or death for him in Vic.
If there is a marriage are there any children
Regards
Newbe
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I can't see any more records for a James McArthur PURCELL, I'm afraid..... :-\
Dee
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Thanks for looking Dee,
I wonder what happened to his mother and himself then ::)
The hunt will continue :)
Newbe
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Newbe, I searched for Agnes Purcell's death in a number of ways, but came up with nothing. I thought she may have remarried after the divorce, as there are records for several marriages of an Agnes Purcell. :-\
Dee :)
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Looks as though may have to get marriage image and see if parents are named on it.
This may be the only way to find her death
Thanks for all your help as usual :D
Newbe ;)
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I think a cousin of mine has found her marriage PURCELL Agnes to BAKER Edward 1886 REF: 4567
Birth Place: Glasgow as in the newspaper article from papers past. Does not name where marriage was
This might be her death
BAKER Agnes 1928 REF: 9049 Parents: James McARTHUR and Mary PEARSON aged 80 Place: Bwk E
What is that short for?
Where would I find her burial
Regards
Newbe
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Newbe, I expect Bwk E is Brunswick East.
Can't help you re burial though.
Dee
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That's Ok Dee,
Will wait and see it others can help. In the mean time I just might google it and see what there is :)
Newbe
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Looks like she is in Fawkner Memorial Park Cemetery
Methodist Compartment A Grave #475
Service date 16 June 1928
Regards
Newbe
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Hi newbe
From 'The Argus" Friday 15/6/1928
Deaths
BAKER - On the 14th June at the residence of her son, Leslie A Baker
3 Dunstan Ave East Brunswick, AGNES, beloved wife of the late
Edward Baker of Willow Glen, Bolinda and loving mother of
Leslie Alexander and loved grandma of Gladys and Shirley
Aged 80 years
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3931133?searchTerm=agnes+baker
Raylen
Added funeral notice. same paper - same date
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Thanks Raylen for your help
Cheers
Newbe
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Hi newbe
From 'The Argus" Friday 15/6/1928
Deaths
BAKER - On the 14th June at the residence of her son, Leslie A Baker
3 Dunstan Ave East Brunswick, AGNES, beloved wife of the late
Edward Baker of Willow Glen, Bolinda and loving mother of
Leslie Alexander and loved grandma of Gladys and Shirley
Aged 80 years
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/3931133?searchTerm=agnes+baker
Raylen
Added funeral notice. same paper - same date
Can any one help with a birth for this Leslie Alexander Baker please
Also a marriage and death would be great if he died before 1985
Thanks
Newbe
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Hi newbe
BIRTH
BAKER Leslie Alexander
1887 Roms ( maybe Romsey)
Father: Edward Mother: Agnes McArthur
Reg#14568
DEATH
BAKER Leslie Alexander
1966 age 79 years Melb
Father: Edward Mother: Agnes Purcell
Reg#14672
Raylen
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Mistranscribed marriage -
BAKER Jeslie Alex b. Bolinda
KENT Ruth b. Warrigal
1912 Reg#880
Death
BAKER Ruth
Father Kent Robert Mother Mary Ann ROGERS
At Coburg 78 years 1967 Reg#8016
Birth
BAKER Gladys Ruth
Father Leslie Alexander Mother Ruth KENT
At Ascot Vale 1913 Reg#185
Marriage
BAKER Gladys Ruth
ASHTON Robert Arthur
1934 Reg# 6435
Cando
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Thank you Raylen and Cando
I still have no idea what happened to her son to Patrick Purcell born 1866 James McArthur Purcell was his name.
He has to be somewhere but have not found him in NZ
Will have to keep looking
Newbe
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There is a digitsed will for Edward Baker of Bolinda, died 17 July, 1914.
Probate granted to Agnes Baker, widow and to Albert BAKER, Leslie Alexander BAKER, and William BAKER. An inventory of his property and money is included.
Legacies paid to Albert BAKER, Mary KELLY, John Stephen BAKER, William BAKER, James Edward BAKER, Leslie Alexander BAKER, (his children) and Agnes BAKER.
The papers include a letter from William BAKER, one of the executors who has some queries regarding rents etc collected by his stepmother, Mrs Agnes BAKER. It rather leaves one with the impression that William was not best pleased with Agnes.
http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/access/probate.asp
The site is quite slow to load, and both links for him are worth reading.
Cheers, Judith
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Thank you very much Judith, I am now off to have a look
Regards
Newbe
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I now have the transcription for all children to Patrick Purcell and Cecilia Wood and Patrick's other wife Agnes Purcell nee McArthur
Will do them one by one
Name: Margaret PURCELL
Sex of Child: Female
Date of Birth: 17/08/1860
Place: 29 King Street, Melbourne, VIC
Father: Patrick PURCELL
Occupation: Laobouer
Birthplace: Limerick, Ireland
Age: 22
Date of Marriage: 24/07/1858
Place of Marriage: Melbourne
Mother: Cecilia WOOD
Birthplace: Fife, Scotland
Age: 20
Previous Issue: one Living (not known if male or female)
Informant: (Signed) Partick Purcell, Father of the child, Emu Creek, near Gisborne
Present at Birth: Dr Knaggs
Date Registered: 23/11/1860 Gisborne
Newbe
PS: Next one to follow
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Next One
Name: Patrick Joseph PURCELL
Sex of Child: Male
Date of Birth: 05/10/1865
Place: 122 Little Lonsdale Street, East Melbourne, VIC
Father: Patrick PURCELL
Occupation: Miner
Birthplace: Ireland
Age: 27
Date of Marriage: 1861
Place of Marriage: Kangaroo Ground
Mother: Cecilia WOOD
Birthplace: Aberdeen, Scotland
Age: 23
Previous Issue: Jane 3, John (Dead)
Informant: (Signed) G: SMITH, Friend, Merritt's Place, Little Lonsdale Street, EastMelbourne, VIC
Registered: 26/10/1865 Melbourne
Newbe
PS: Next one to follow
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Next One
Name: James McArthur PURCELL
Sex of Child: Male
Date of Birth 11/12/1865
Place: Kerrie, District of Bolinda, VIC
Father: Patrick PURCELL
Occupation: Carter
Birthplace: Limerick, Ireland
Age: 26
Date of Marriage: 29/12/1862
Place of Marriage: Richmond, Melbourne
Mother: Agnes McARTHUR
Birthplace: Glasgow, Scotland
Age: 17
Previous Issue: -
Informant: (Signed) Agnes PURCELL, Mother, Kerrie
Present at Birth: Mrs KEYS
Registered: 06/02/1866, Bolinda
Newbe
PS: Marriage to follow
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Marriage Transcription
Groom: Patrick PURCELL
Status: Bachelor
Place of Birth: Co Limerick, Ireland
Occupation: Ploughman
Age: 23
Usual Residence: Present - Kew; Usual – Lancefield
Father: James PURCELL
Occupation: Farmer
Mother: Catherine O'Brian
Bride: Agnes McARTHUR
Status: Spinster
Place of Birth: Glasgow, Scotland
Occupation: Servant
Age: 18
Usual Residence: Present – Kew; Usual – Lancefield
Father: James McARTHUR
Occupation: Farmer:
Mother: Mary Pearson
Date of Marriage: 29/12/1862
Place of Marriage: St James, Richmond, VIC
Religon: Roman Catholic
Witnesses: (Signed) Michael McINERNEY, (Signed) Margaret QUINN
Minister: James J MADDEN
Declaration: I, Patrick Purcell, Do hereby declare that I am a member of the R. C. Church
This marrriage was solemnized with the concent of Septimus Martin ESQR Gardenian of Minors; The groom and Bride appeared to have signed the register.
Last one ;D
Newbe
PS: At last I now have Patrick Purcell's parents to add to the tree ;D
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Wow, newbe - you must be pleased to have all that extra info ;D Judith
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I am very pleased indeed ;D
It may have cost me a bit more but was worth the wait I think
At least I now have Patrick and Agnes Parents so that makes things a bit easier.
Am not sure where to go next in searching as I have now found James McArthur PURCELL anywhere in Australia or New Zealand
Newbe
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It looks like we had Patrick Purcell's parents wrong earlier on in the thread so it is good to finally know who they are now.
Have not ordered his death printout in NZ yet but that is next on my list of things to do
Newbe
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Have just received this the other day from gerryp66
Am a Purcell researcher (some 30 years) just recently joined Rootschat.
Noted your thread re Patrick Purcell & Cecilia Wood, Agnes McArthur and Mary Ann Shannahan. Patrick was born Askeaton, Limerick, christened 26 Feb 1841 to parents James P. and Bridget MINITOR.
I have details of the descendants of Patrick P. and Mary Ann SHANNAHAN.
Also have Patrick's brothers as Thomas, James and David. Have their christening dates but nothing else at present.
I was previously unaware of his marriage to Agnes McARTHUR, their son James McArthur P. or of the two sons to Cecilia WOOD (John WOOD and Patrick Joseph P.).
Patrick and Cecilia had two daughters Margaret, b. 24Jul1858 (IGI) would appear to have died before 1860, and the Margaret born 17Aug1860 (VIC RGO 1860/19028) but IGI says17Aug1861 . May not be right as it appears that the first Margaret was born the same day Patrick and Cecilia got married (IGI is not always reliable) ??
My interests stem from a one name study of the PURCELLs of Australasia. 30 years part-time effort to date has resulted in a database of over 16,500 Purcells. Still putting the jigsaw together. Happy to share what I do have.
I have told him that Patrick and Cecilia never married. I am now wondering if Patrick had his mother right on the marriage certificate. I am waiting for Gerry to get back to me at this stage. I never new he had brothers so more searching to do
Newbe
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Still trying to find info on a James PURCELL and Catherine O'BRIAN who were Patrick PURCELL's parents. I am thinking this might be hard as no Irish records available.
I do not know if Patrick had siblings or not or if the parents came to Australia.
Newbe
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Have just received this the other day from gerryp66
Am a Purcell researcher (some 30 years) just recently joined Rootschat.
Noted your thread re Patrick Purcell & Cecilia Wood, Agnes McArthur and Mary Ann Shannahan. Patrick was born Askeaton, Limerick, christened 26 Feb 1841 to parents James P. and Bridget MINITOR.
I have details of the descendants of Patrick P. and Mary Ann SHANNAHAN.
Also have Patrick's brothers as Thomas, James and David. Have their christening dates but nothing else at present.
I was previously unaware of his marriage to Agnes McARTHUR, their son James McArthur P. or of the two sons to Cecilia WOOD (John WOOD and Patrick Joseph P.).
Patrick and Cecilia had two daughters Margaret, b. 24Jul1858 (IGI) would appear to have died before 1860, and the Margaret born 17Aug1860 (VIC RGO 1860/19028) but IGI says17Aug1861 . May not be right as it appears that the first Margaret was born the same day Patrick and Cecilia got married (IGI is not always reliable) ??
My interests stem from a one name study of the PURCELLs of Australasia. 30 years part-time effort to date has resulted in a database of over 16,500 Purcells. Still putting the jigsaw together. Happy to share what I do have.
I have told him that Patrick and Cecilia never married. I am now wondering if Patrick had his mother right on the marriage certificate. I am waiting for Gerry to get back to me at this stage. I never new he had brothers so more searching to do
Newbe
If you are still out there gerryp66 please contact me as I would love to have more info on this family
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Hi There,
I finally got Agnes Baker death printout from BDM Victoria by downloading it and it says that James was alive but his age was not known. He would have been 62 when his mother Agnes died. I have a feeling his parents may not show for his death. Have tried to search NSW and Queensland but no luck. Not able to search Victoria. I am at a loss as I have no idea if he was married or where he lived. Have found nothing in NZ so assume he stayed in Australia.
Any suggestions please would be great
Thanks
Newbe
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Think I have found Cecilia(Ceceiia TUCKER nee WOOD) death in Western Australia
Died 1906 Registration District Subiaco Reg No. 109. I think her husband Richard died 1904
Looking online at the Western Australia BDM site no parents are named
Is there a way to find out where she may have been living in 1903 and 1906
Cheers
Newbe
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This, her death notice, will at least confirm she is the right woman or not, if that is a help.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0eme/
This is a SA death notice for the above woman's husband, Richard
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/36978399?searchTerm="cecilia tucker " &searchLimits=
Sue
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Hi There,
Yes it is the right woman but have not found a son by the name of John for her. I wonder if he is a step son. Have not found Richard's death in WA so not sure where he died. Death notice confirms death on 25/11/1900
Richard and Cecilia married in 1873 Victoria.
newbe
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This, her death notice, will at least confirm she is the right woman or not, if that is a help.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0eme/
This is a SA death notice for the above woman's husband, Richard
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/36978399?searchTerm="cecilia tucker " &searchLimits=
Sue
Thanks for Richard's one as I could not find it. So does this mean they both died in SA and not WA. I am slightly confused on this
Cheers
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Have found a funeral notice for Cecelia TUCKER nee WOOD and it says she is buried at Karrakatta Cemetery. Her son John is buried with her. He died on 20/10/1939 aged 75 so born abt 1864
Richard's funeral notice says he is buried in Payneham Cemetery. Have not looked online yet for the cemetery
Newbe
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Hi Newbie,
Cecelia died in WA (Subiaco according to death notice)
Richard died in SA
TUCKER Richard died 25 Nov 1900 at Marryatville Dist Nor 273 456. He was aged 68 status relative not recorded, residence Marryatville.
He is buried at Payneham
http://headstones.weebly.com/payneham.html
Cheers Kris :)
Ditto Newbie
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Thanks Kris. Now have John TUCKER's death notice. He was married to a lady named Louise. They had 3 children Stan, Anster and Leith. Stan was living in Victoria and the other 2 were in Brisbane.
Will go look at your link for the headstone Kris
Cheers
newbe
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there is no birth for John (or any births to this couple in SA.
There is teaching record for Cecilia TUCKER (sewing Teacher Mannamarie)
http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/research/condon/teachers/Teachers.asp?TeacherID=9042
and an extensive teaching record for John from training college in1883 - resignation in 1901. He was teaching at Mannanarie in 1886 also, and Mylor as mentioned in Richards death notice)
http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/research/condon/teachers/Teachers.asp?TeacherID=5106
Cheers Kris :)
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Births to John TUCKER 22 Single father Richard TUCKER and Sarah Louise Jane PAVY 22 single father Richard PAVY 29 Dec 1886 BC Church Crystal Brook Dist Cla 149 966
Births to John TUCKER Sarah Louise Jane PAVY
Richard Stanley TUCKER 4 Feb 1888 Adelaide Dist Ade 413 203
Austruther Pavy TUCKER 12 Oct 1891 Langhornes Creek Dist Str 488 434
John Leith TUCKER 28 Oct 1898 Maitland Dist Dal 630 496
Cheers Kris :)
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BISA entry for John unfortunately nothing helpful
TUCKER John married 29 Feb 1886 Sarah Louise nee PAVY parents Richd and Caroline Sophia nee COMBE born 6 Jun 1864 SA died 16 Mar 1950 Perth WA
No entry for Richard
Cheers Kris :)
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Thanks for that Kris
The only John birth I had was a John Wood in Victoria but and am sure it says on Patrick Joseph PURCELL's birth cert 1865 that John was dead. maybe the informant got that wrong.
What is the best way to find out where this John TUCKER was born.
Do I get the marriage or death cert for him. He would be my great grandfather's step brother or brother or something like that
Newbe
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BISA entry for John unfortunately nothing helpful
TUCKER John married 29 Feb 1886 Sarah Louise nee PAVY parents Richd and Caroline Sophia nee COMBE born 6 Jun 1864 SA died 16 Mar 1950 Perth WA
No entry for Richard
Cheers Kris :)
Thanks for that Kris. Louise is also buried with John and his mother.
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Hi Newbie,
I just found this -says he was born in Vic
http://www.carnamah.com.au/ca44.html
Unfortunately a SA marriage cert will not help with mother or POB
Cheers Kris :)
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Hi Newbie,
I just found this -says he was born in Vic
http://www.carnamah.com.au/ca44.html
Unfortunately a SA marriage cert will not help with mother or POB
Cheers Kris :)
Thanks for that Kris. It makes great reading
Newbe
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Looks like John's death cert in Perth may not help either as no parents listed on it when looking online
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Here you go with one of the births, Newbe.....
John WOOD, mother Cecilia WOOD, born in 1863 at LANC
Ref = 3277
Dee :)
This is the birth Dee gave and is close to John's age at death.
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I now have Patrick Purcell's death printout from BDM in New Zealand and it has James Purcell as his father but no mother on it.
I was looking at Margaret Purcell's birth record of 1860 and on it under previous issue it has one living that has not been found so not sure what to make of that. If I get the one below for Leslie Alexander BAKER of his birth will it have Agnes other son from her first marriage as previous issue.
Hi newbe
BIRTH
BAKER Leslie Alexander
1887 Roms ( maybe Romsey)
Father: Edward Mother: Agnes McArthur
Reg#14568
DEATH
BAKER Leslie Alexander
1966 age 79 years Melb
Father: Edward Mother: Agnes Purcell
Reg#14672
Raylen
Regards
Newbe
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Hi Newbe,
I am a descendant of Cecilia Wood's son John (Tucker). I was reading your thread and very interested to know what the NZ past papers article re Patrick Purcell said? I cannot load the link.
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Hi There,
I have replied to your PM you sent me. Papers past site is down so I will send article to you.
Newbe
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Great info.
Thanks
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Hi Neebe:
In the city of Saltillo Mexico was living a Purcell family, Thomas V Purcell born 1852 & Wiliam L Purcell born 1845 in Limerick IRE, one died at Saltillo City And the other in San Antonio Tx. The tomb of both are in Saltillo Mexico