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Title: A boy named Jack
Post by: Vasquez109 on Thursday 15 October 09 14:41 BST (UK)
Looking at the 1901 census, I can see a child called Jack. Is Jack short or a nickname for something like James or is it a name in its own right?
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 15 October 09 14:49 BST (UK)
It's traditionally a nickname for John, though by the late 19th century would also have been given as a name in its own right.

Anna
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 15 October 09 14:49 BST (UK)
It used to be a nickname for John, but now it seems to be a name in its own right - perhaps it always was.

Lizzie
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: LizzieW on Thursday 15 October 09 14:50 BST (UK)
Snap Anna - I didn't get the red warning that someone else was/had posted a reply.  I think it's something to do with Trystan updating Roots.

Lizzie
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: Vasquez109 on Thursday 15 October 09 15:13 BST (UK)
Thanks for that everyone!

Doesnt help with the confusion though!  ???
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: muttly on Thursday 15 October 09 16:40 BST (UK)
I have a James called Jack.
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: derby girl on Thursday 15 October 09 18:32 BST (UK)
The thing is Jack as a pet name for John comes from the medieval pet name for John - Jankin ie little John - whereas Jack is now often used for James because the French for James is Jaques - the latin is Jacobus - confusing isn't it.  I have a Hamish and a James in the family.
Regards
Derby Girl
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: Vasquez109 on Thursday 15 October 09 20:42 BST (UK)
Certainly is confusing!
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: Steve G on Saturday 17 October 09 20:43 BST (UK)
 :) Thanks for the heads up on James, you peeps. I have a 'Jack' who's been doing my crust in for Years now. Get time, I'll run him on James and see what happens. I'd undoubtedly have tried John, but simply never thought of Jim.
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: derby girl on Saturday 17 October 09 22:59 BST (UK)
And the other thing about Jack is it is (or was) a sort of generic name for anyone you don't know - if my pa passed someone he would say something like "evening Jack" and I'd say - oh you know him - and he'd say - no.  I always found it puzzling. 
Regards
Derby Girl
Title: Re: A boy named Jack
Post by: Vasquez109 on Saturday 17 October 09 23:04 BST (UK)
Please do that to me on the bus (elderly ones).

"Town please John!"

Cant speak to a driver like that!  :D