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Title: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: Suzy W on Tuesday 13 October 09 22:42 BST (UK)
Hi

Any cenus from 1841 onwards for Jane and John Newman.  Jane born 1814, Tillington, Stafford, (Ch St Mary's)
Sorry no details about John, married 1834.
Sorry do not have much to go on.

Suzy W
Title: Re: Census for Newman
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 13 October 09 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi

1861 Census

Wolverhampton St  Castle Church Staffordshire

John Newman Head M 59 Shoe Manuf L.P   b Berks
Jane Newman Wife 46                                 b Tillington Staffs
George Newman Son 16 Apprenctice           b Stafford
Sarah J Newman Dau 14 Apprenctice           b Stafford
Elizabeth Newman Dau 11 Scholar               b Stafford
Sarah Newman Mother Wid 87                     b Cheshire Chester
Thomas Merick Nephew 13 Apprenctice        b Stafford
Martha Birch Servt 14 House Servent            b Huntington

Class: RG9; Piece: 1908; Folio: 107; Page: 14;

Hope this helps

Regards

Iria

Title: Re: Census for Newman
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 13 October 09 23:13 BST (UK)
Hi

1871 Census

Wolverhampton Street Castle Church Staffordshire

Jane Newman Head wid 56 Letting Apartments b Tillington
Alfred P Newman Grandson 13 Scholar b Salop Ellesmere
Samuel H Evans Grandson 6 Scholar b Liverpool
Wedgewood J Thomas Boarder 17 Scholar b Cheshire Crewe
Elizabeth Ward Serv 15 Housemaid b Stafford
James Jarvis Boarder 23 Methodist Minister b Stafford

Class: RG10; Piece: 2819; Folio: 91; Page: 20;

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Census for Newman
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 13 October 09 23:22 BST (UK)
Hi Again

1851 Census

16 Union Buldings Stafford St Mary

Jane Newman Wife Mar 36 De?? Maker Stafford Tillington
John Newman Son 22 Cordwainer        b Stafford
Henry Newman Son 12 Coardwainer    b Stafford
Rebecca Newman Dau 13 Dressmaker         b Stafford
George Newman Son 6                         b Stafford
Sarah Jane Newman Dau 5 Scholar       b Stafford
Elizabeth Newman Dau 1                       b Stafford
Edward Cook Pritchard Lodger 17 Cordwainer b Shropshire
John Stones App 12 Apprentice b Shropshire Newport

Class: HO107; Piece: 1999; Folio: 290; Page: 29

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Census for Newman
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 13 October 09 23:28 BST (UK)
Hi

Possible Death For Jane

Jane Newman
Died March Qrt 1875
District: Stafford
Age 60

Hope This Helps

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Census for Newman
Post by: Suzy W on Tuesday 13 October 09 23:39 BST (UK)
Thank you very much.  Nice little surprise with Thomas Merick, (nephew), this is the family I am researching.  So he is a new one to me.

Cheers
Suzy W
 
Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: censusmick on Monday 26 October 09 10:44 GMT (UK)
Census Information is Crown Copyright From:www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Copyright of GRO Indexes acknowledged - info from FreeBDM - long may they transcribe

Hi

You probably have the marriage of John to Jane Merrick 1834-03-31 at Castle Church Stafford ?.

The following is offered for consideration, without verification :

1851Census - Film 2016 Folio 193 / B shows

John Newman - visitor 45 married -
Sergeant # # ( 2 indecipherable letters ) Staffordshire Militia - born Windsor Berks
John possibly died 1868-Q4 Stafford ?
His son John shown with Jane in 1851 seems too old to be the son of Jane ?
Could Jane have been a second wife ?
Could that 'L P' in the 61 reference indicate 'something' pensioner ?? wild guess ?

The 71 reference mentions Alfred P Newman 13 b. Ellesmere SAL
FreeBDM has : Alfred Pointon Newman b.1858-Q4 Ellesmere, Married 1882-Q4 St Asaph ( Wales area ) plus
another Marriage 1892-Q3 at Halifax,and a possible Death 1927-Q1 at Cardiff ??
1881 Film 3541 Folio 55 at Nantwich has an Alfred 22 un-married b. Ellesmere a Chemist & Druggist
with his Parents - Henry 43 & Eliza 55 ( Henry possibly the son of John & Jane ).

Going back to John,the son ( b.c1829 ) - possibly d. 1882-Q1 Stafford
He may have married Ann SCANDRETT - 1859-Q3 Stafford
1881 Film 2688 Folio 146 at Stafford shows ( all b. Stafford )
John 53 Cordwainer, Ann 51,
John 20 ( possibly d.1928-Q3 and married Ann Richardson 1885-Q2 ),
George Henry 18 ( possibly d.1884-Q1 ? ), Frederick A 13 ( possibly d.1942-Q1 ), Arthur Edward 9.

Rebecca b.1838-Q1 possibly married Samuel Evans - 1859-Q1 Stafford
This may account for the Samuel H Evans b. Liverpool and aged 6 in the 1871 reference.

Sarah Jane b.1846-Q4, possibly married 1865-Q2 Stafford ?

If you can confirm any I would be grateful

Mick - a small cog in the Newman Name Society

 
Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: Suzy W on Tuesday 27 October 09 01:29 GMT (UK)
I have not looked into this side of the family all that much.  Jane is the sister of my ggg grandfather William Merrick/s, so as you will understand I have been tracing William's side more than his siblings.
The only information I have on John Newman is via the census that are detailed below, possible his mother is Sarah? born 1774 Cheshire.
All the names you have listed below are new to me, and need to look into them. Sorry I can not be of much help at the moment.
Jane's parents were Thomas Merrick and Jane Edwards of Stone Stafford. 

Regards
Suzy W
Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: trishg on Saturday 26 May 12 13:20 BST (UK)
Hi. 1861 census for Newman.. George Newman son 16 is my great grandfather. I have been trying to trace his son Harry Lvingstone Newman who is my grandfather. He was born 17.1.1876 in Cheadle. Married Hylda MacDougall on 22.9.1913 and died on 20.09. 1944.  It seems we are researching the same family.. any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: Suzy W on Saturday 26 May 12 22:30 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat trishg. ;)

Sorry I can not help any more regarding the Newman side.  Jane Merrick is the sister of my ggg grandfather William Merrick/s, and all I really wanted to know was, who were her children?, Enough to tidy away that line without getting to involved with a family that really are not mine.

I can say the Merrick/s line all took up jobs at Bostock Shoe factory, so maybe many of the Newman's also worked there as well.

Suzy w


Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: trishg on Sunday 27 May 12 05:21 BST (UK)
Thank you for that Suzy w. I found out that some of my ancestors were indeed shoe makers so I shall research the Bostock shoe factory.

Good luck in your search and thank you.  :)

Kind regards

Trish
Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: Suzy W on Sunday 27 May 12 05:42 BST (UK)
Try http://www.staffspasttrack.org.uk   

I have added my Merricks on there.

Also
http://wishful-thinking.org.uk/cgi-bin/RLsearch.cgi?terms=Newman&submit=OK  a few Newman graves here, not sure if any relation to you or not.

suzy w
Title: Re: Census for Newman (COMPLETED)
Post by: trishg on Monday 28 May 12 07:25 BST (UK)
Thank you so much. I shall have a look.

Many thanks   :)

Trish